got banned from al**t for no reason

[chroma]

I for one am a fan of long posts.
It takes a certain mindset to spew out more than 5 lines of well formatted, clearly thought out opinion.

I also like arguments, conflicting ideas interest me as im sure they do others, id happily argue that Hitler was a genuinely nice guy; that he was simply misunderstood. Then spend the rest of the night researching that argument regardless of my personal beliefs on the subject. If only to make for interesting reading (his ideas regarding architecture and comunity formations are frankly midblowing once you get past the gassing the jews part and frankly sociopathic homicidal behavior)

I do however make it a point to make a full attack on the ideaology or opinion rather than the person making the statements.
Personal insults are the mark of a loser in desperation to form any kind of argument.

The genius of a forum (as opposed to conversing IRL or over a chat box) is that you have time not only to form a concise opinion, but also to edit and read over it before clicking post.
Theres really no reason to get personal towards anyone. Its not an instant means of communication so i can take my time, place my feelings to one side and hopefully not make too big a fool of myself

And if someone takes umbridge with me... on the internet... what have i really lost? i can still hit the power button and get on with my life. Its (in my opinion) not the end of the world.

[Dreamer]

whatever :yawn: only kidding

it's nice to have posts more than 3 lines long but maybe we will need to put a cap on the number of lines required for you??

pmsl only joking!! thanks for the input

[Bulld0g]

@ Bulldog, it's right though isn't it the fact is you are simply not allowed to state an opinion (which you personally are entitled to give by the soddin way!) in certain places online.....be it on football matters, interpersonal matters, politics, life etc....some places don't let you have your opinion and they have to attack you for it, especially if you have the audacity to call out a senior member whose opinion is hypocritical....that's what I did , got banned for it - mind you a handful of people took an instant dislike to me over my stance on a particular political matter which I had the guts to stand up and say something about and the comunity was split 50/50 but a handful of senior members didn't like the fact that I didn't give a f**k who anyone was or how many posts they had, they didn't like that a new guy was coming in and telling it like it is and stealing their thunder ....

But yeah they wouldn't leave me alone - from one thread to the next they'd be having sly digs at me randomly and even going so far as to be personally attacking me for my political stance/opinion not realising they were showing the exact same ignorence themselves that they were accusing me of, despite my pointing that out but you can't win with some types and something I've learned quickly recently is that it doesn't matter how old or young they are, or you for that matter, a c**t is a c**t end of story, that's got nothing to do with age/experience in life - but yeah despite a few heated exchanges and quite a few insults and swears when things got out of hand and my refusal to back down despite all this I still wasn't banned for this - something which would have been totally understandable had that been the case.....

I was actually banned for a post which made every effort to get back on topic, despite all the flak coming my way - I really lit a fire in that community god knows how! But in the actual banning incident honestly all I did was state a fact which basically echoed what an admin had said in a warning that had been made not 2 hours previous and I made mention of the fact that a certain user had just earned himself a 1 week ban for insulting me if what the admin said was true - then I made another paragraph which was totally genuine and not fake at all and was which was also an attempt to get the thread back on topic. I guess ontop of everything else they didn't like about me, they didn't like me playing moderator because then next thing I know I end up banned for that of all things and the reason given on the infraction was apparently I'm taking the piss out of admin.....mind you to be honest I had every right to, even though in truth that was the last thing I was doing.

I agree with you totally m8. As i've said before, there are some Admin and Mods who let the cyber power go their heads. They don't like you to disagree with them and you always find a clique,where some users will agree with staff on every topic under the sun just to keep on their good side. Quite pathetic really but true.
Thats why i spend more time on these forums than any other, because there doesn't appear to be that clique here. Everyone seems to debate topics and not resort to name calling and back stabbing.

[Raven]

I agree with you totally m8. As i've said before, there are some Admin and Mods who let the cyber power go their heads. They don't like you to disagree with them and you always find a clique,where some users will agree with staff on every topic under the sun just to keep on their good side. Quite pathetic really but true.
Thats why i spend more time on these forums than any other, because there doesn't appear to be that clique here. Everyone seems to debate topics and not resort to name calling and back stabbing.

Totally, 100% true that. This is how stupid it gets, there's particular member of digitalf***s who I won't mention except to say he's an arrogant, middle aged Man U fan who thinks he knows the lot, and he's in with the admins and mods etc....and he was at loggerheads with me every step of the way on everything it was a complete personality clash ontop of the fact that we disgreed on everything except to say that I felt he was wrong to say the things he did and to think the certain things he thought, for example in one thread the subject of adultery came up and I said I'm afraid it is black and white in this case, people that cheat on their partners are weak and scum for doing it - but if they can aknowledge their mistake, learn from it and never repeat it again then they deserve alot of credit for that....this guy chimed in and tried to play the age/experience chestnut but I wasn't having any of it - and he said that he used to think like me, until he himself cheated on his girlfriend....so basically what he was saying was it was totally wrong until he went and did it - which is for a start a 1 sided opinion and how many people do that ? Backtrack their opinions as and when to suit them - like how it's always different when the shoes on the other foot and when it concerns them.....anyway needless to say I told him what I thought of him and he didn't like that none too much.

[Lainie]

sorry raven cant agree. its not as black and white as you might think. i thought id be with my husband forever (in fact tomorrow would have been our 20th wedding anniversary) but unfortuately and for obv reasons wont post in an open forum it didnt work out like that. so please please dont be so judgemental. everyone has different circumstances. you are perfectly entitled to your opinion but so is everyone else.

[aftermath]

Totally, 100% true that. This is how stupid it gets, there's particular member of digitalf***s who I won't mention except to say he's an arrogant, middle aged Man U fan who thinks he knows the lot, and he's in with the admins and mods etc....and he was at loggerheads with me every step of the way on everything it was a complete personality clash ontop of the fact that we disgreed on everything except to say that I felt he was wrong to say the things he did and to think the certain things he thought, for example in one thread the subject of adultery came up and I said I'm afraid it is black and white in this case, people that cheat on their partners are weak and scum for doing it - but if they can aknowledge their mistake, learn from it and never repeat it again then they deserve alot of credit for that....this guy chimed in and tried to play the age/experience chestnut but I wasn't having any of it - and he said that he used to think like me, until he himself cheated on his girlfriend....so basically what he was saying was it was totally wrong until he went and did it - which is for a start a 1 sided opinion and how many people do that ? Backtrack their opinions as and when to suit them - like how it's always different when the shoes on the other foot and when it concerns them.....anyway needless to say I told him what I thought of him and he didn't like that none too much.

That was a long time ago , and why not be man enough and name the person, i for 1 was involved in that thread, many many months ago, and i thought you would have moved on from that, and not bring the past up again.

tut,tut,tut

[opsmonkey]

except to say he's an arrogant, middle aged Man U fan who thinks he knows the lot

I thought that was you Afters ..

Only jokin.. just a bit of nuclear banter

[Raven]

Aftermath that's fair enough the person I'm talking about calls himself bbk....and lainie it's the simple fact that there's no excuse for cheating, none. If somebody is unhappy in a relationship or cheats then they should do the right thing and end it. It should be that simple, why some people have to cheat to come to that conclusion I don't know. You are free to disagree and no doubt alot of people who have cheated will disagree with me, but there is a very good reason and very obvious reason for that. But still the fact remains regardless of opinion that there's no call for cheating on someone. To be bluntly honest I fail to see how this isn't the case....And as for the ones who made that mistake once, realised it and yet still paid a heavy price well unfortunately that's their problem and they brought that on themselves. It's an understandable outcome though because you can do any number of things up to and including leaving the relationship before cheating let alone god forbid try to work the problems out and for that reason alone even in a relationship that's being dragged down underwater there's no excuse for going with another person behind your partners back. The fact of being caught cheating usually brings around the inevitable anyway and during the moment of cheating I'm sorry but it's obvious to me that those persons just wanted a f**k at that particular moment and got it from someone else. Simple as. Hence no excuse, no matter how much the guilty parties try to rationalise their indiscretion. The least those persons could do is admit their mistakes, really.

In fact it would be interesting to get someone's opinion who has been cheated on themselves to see what side of the fence they are on , I think that's ultimately what it boils down to in this case is wether or not you have cheated or not. And Lainie I don't mean to be judging anyone per se, just saying it's a stupid thing to do and that there's no call for it - in fact I belive everybody should be given a second chance and when not known very well people should be taken on value of what you know about their personality not what you think you know about their mistakes.

Basically it's either I'm dead wrong or life where people are concerned is a much simpler place than alot of people care to admit .....strictly speaking from a personal point of view it's just so black and white to me on this one, there is no gray area and really how can there be ? To the people that disagree with me I'd ask that they try and put themselves in the role of being cheated on themselves (if they even need to) and see if their opinion would still be the same, and if so, genuinely, why ?

[aftermath]

I thought that was you Afters ..

Only jokin.. just a bit of nuclear banter

I new it wasn`t me when Raven said middle aged , he would have said old man

[chroma]

Aftermath that's fair enough the person I'm talking about calls himself bbk....and lainie it's the simple fact that there's no excuse for cheating, none. If somebody is unhappy in a relationship or cheats then they should do the right thing and end it. It should be that simple, why some people have to cheat to come to that conclusion I don't know. You are free to disagree and no doubt alot of people who have cheated will disagree with me, but there is a very good reason and very obvious reason for that. But still the fact remains regardless of opinion that there's no call for cheating on someone. To be bluntly honest I fail to see how this isn't the case....And as for the ones who made that mistake once, realised it and yet still paid a heavy price well unfortunately that's their problem and they brought that on themselves. It's an understandable outcome though because you can do any number of things up to and including leaving the relationship before cheating let alone god forbid try to work the problems out and for that reason alone even in a relationship that's being dragged down underwater there's no excuse for going with another person behind your partners back. The fact of being caught cheating usually brings around the inevitable anyway and during the moment of cheating I'm sorry but it's obvious to me that those persons just wanted a f**k at that particular moment and got it from someone else. Simple as. Hence no excuse, no matter how much the guilty parties try to rationalise their indiscretion. The least those persons could do is admit their mistakes, really.

In fact it would be interesting to get someone's opinion who has been cheated on themselves to see what side of the fence they are on , I think that's ultimately what it boils down to in this case is wether or not you have cheated or not. And Lainie I don't mean to be judging anyone per se, just saying it's a stupid thing to do and that there's no call for it - in fact I belive everybody should be given a second chance and when not known very well people should be taken on value of what you know about their personality not what you think you know about their mistakes.

Basically it's either I'm dead wrong or life where people are concerned is a much simpler place than alot of people care to admit .....strictly speaking from a personal point of view it's just so black and white to me on this one, there is no gray area and really how can there be ? To the people that disagree with me I'd ask that they try and put themselves in the role of being cheated on themselves (if they even need to) and see if their opinion would still be the same, and if so, genuinely, why ?

QFT, I agree.
My first impulse on finding out my wife was a lying cheating whore was biblical... Leviticus 20:10 to be specific.

Theres simply no excuse for cheating on a person, if you love someone love them untill it hurts. If you feel the need to go and shag someone else then that speaks volumes about how you feel towards the relationship.

Theres nothing i enjoyed more than going through months of HIV testing after i found out.
Frankly anyone who would put a person through that kind of nightmare deserves a stint in gutmo. Jailed for attempted murder at the very least.

For the record, i have never once cheated on a person in my life, i couldnt live with the guilt. Even in a simple fling of a relationship. Certainly not in a marriage, i took my vows seriously, stood up with pride in front of my friends and family and made a commitment that i would live by till my final breath. Not a choice i made lightly.
This isnt to say im even slightly religious (although i can quote several religious texts inside and out) i dont hold a marriage or relationships in any religious way, its your personal word. If you cant rely on your own word then what does that make you as a person?
Hence the reason i never make a promise or give my word on a whim.
If i say im going to do something then i surely will or die trying, enything less is a complete cop out.

[Lainie]

we are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off topic here!!!

apologies from me for that