Why be a Suicide Bomber??

[Bulld0g]

There lies the difference m8. I don't take offence. I see the humour and laugh. Is it only religious jokes you take offence at, or do you take offence at Michael Jackson and Stephen Gately jokes. Where do you draw the line ? Do you draw a line ?.

I am catholic and my friends are either catholic or protestant. Theres not many muslims around where i live. My protestant friends tell jokes about priests nuns etc. I don't take offence because its a JOKE. It's not aimed at causing a riot or inciting racial hatred. Thats the difference between British people and foreigners. We have a sense of humour on ALL topics.

[estrika]

this is all about manipulating childs minds.


the worst is that they cannot shag is wife before marriage, if she is not good in the service is worst that been ugly, isn't it?

[waqasahmed]

Its called self control.Its not just Islam that says you cant have sex before marriage. Theres also no chance of getting HIV etc... by only having sex with your wife

[on_the_jazz]

There lies the difference m8. I don't take offence. I see the humour and laugh. Is it only religious jokes you take offence at, or do you take offence at Michael Jackson and Stephen Gately jokes. Where do you draw the line ? Do you draw a line ?.

I am catholic and my friends are either catholic or protestant. Theres not many muslims around where i live. My protestant friends tell jokes about priests nuns etc. I don't take offence because its a JOKE. It's not aimed at causing a riot or inciting racial hatred. Thats the difference between British people and foreigners. We have a sense of humour on ALL topics.

So where would you draw the line? According to your logic there is no such thing as racism... just a joke to be had. The issue with this thread is that half the stuff being made fun of is either made up and not related to Islam or a dig at Arabs rather than the religion.

this is all about manipulating childs minds.


the worst is that they cannot shag is wife before marriage, if she is not good in the service is worst that been ugly, isn't it?

"they". Sex before marriage is a no no in many religions. Some people choose to wait before marriage even if religion allows sex. It's nothing to do with suicide bombings is it? Just another dig at a culture different to yours.

Please explain to everyone that has commented on this Post how we are supposed to understand a Suicide Bomber.....

I fail to see the relevance of you having been there and fighting them.....

You at least had the great courage to fight them face to face and not try and blow yourself and their women and children up with a suicide bomb.....

I'm trying to understand.

Suicide bombers are people. People have reasons for what they do. Try understanding why they do it and maybe you can stop it.

[maca]

religeon!! not for me, i take people as they take me dont care
were you come from. or what you belive in, a scence of humour is
better than a bullet or a bomb.

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

There lies the difference m8. I don't take offence. I see the humour and laugh. Is it only religious jokes you take offence at, or do you take offence at Michael Jackson and Stephen Gately jokes. Where do you draw the line ? Do you draw a line ?.

I am catholic and my friends are either catholic or protestant. Theres not many muslims around where i live. My protestant friends tell jokes about priests nuns etc. I don't take offence because its a JOKE. It's not aimed at causing a riot or inciting racial hatred. Thats the difference between British people and foreigners. We have a sense of humour on ALL topics.

i Draw the line in between Religion and Race/Culture.

[SatSearching]

Isn't religion the problem?

If I was hell bent on mine, I would be burning sheep, commiting adulty and far far worse etc.

Every religion has horrible beliefs if peeps want to go to extreems, problem is some do!

[chroma]

TBH I think the thread started out a bit tongue in cheek but has evolved into something more serious. Chill out and take it in the context it was meant , a joke

Why is it jokes are tolerated about any subject under the sun except Islam ?
As far as i'm concerned if Scousers are fair game for a bit of stick so are Muslims

Scousers are only likely to shoot you for taking the piss, not blow up a building and taking themselves out in the process

Religion in general is DAFT, i mean seriously think about it.

I have a friend called morris, he lives in my top pocket and tells me to start fires... is a comment thats likely to get you locked up for being a headcase.

Pffft imaginary friends telling you to start fires. Almost as insane as imaginary friends promising you virgins to blow yourself up.
Morris loves you! he sent his son Porrick to die on a cross for your sins.

I get that people are afraid of winding up as compost and it helps them to get through their day to imagine that theres something greater than themselves with some kind of "plan" what i dont understand is the extreme lengths people go to in order to prove their beliefs.

MY IMAGINARY FRIEND CAN KICK YOUR IMAGINARY FRIENDS ASS.. etc. belief in the one true fictional being.

What seriously does my head in is organisations using these poor saps fears as a method of control.
Dont think independantly from the masses, its a SIN! You'll go to HADES AND BURN! IN LAKES OF SULPHUR AND FIRE!
Yeah... whatever.
I dated a girl a number of years ago who gained a degree in THEOLOGY of all topics, to the best of my knowledge shes still unemployed.
Just remember kids, just because a subject is mildly interesting doesnt mean its even slightly usefull in the real world.

I mean come on theology? what the hell use is that going to be? other than forming some kind of cult or teaching other theologans about vague and obscure religions?
Figure another 5 yrard and she'll have her very own Jonestown, kool aid is less destructive than explosives though i guess.

[bvilleuk]

religeon!! not for me, i take people as they take me dont care
were you come from. or what you belive in, a scence of humour is
better than a bullet or a bomb.

Well said Maca !!

Checkout http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...62/#post311469

And remember its in COMEDY CENTRAL!!!!

[C64]

The sorry fact is its awfully easy to make a suicide bomber out of anyone.

Back when i worked with kids i found out relatively quickly how easily manipulated they where, kids that where abused, mistreated, drug addicts, dropouts or otherwise excluded will do anything you want should you give them even the slightest hint of positive attention and a channel for their anger, resentment and feeling of disenfranchisement.

I stumbled into this idea because of a recruitment officer for the Army, he was more than willing to tell kids exactly what they wanted to hear and instantly latched on to the abundance of anger and angst and feed that propaganda to suit his agenda.
I escorted him from the premises in a hurry after watching the sheer efficiency of how he operated. (i booted him not because i feel the army is a bad thing, but because he acted like a plastic surgeon convincing a client that its perfectly safe and essential to go under the knife, without presenting any opposing argument to form a well rounded opinion)

Take a Ned (Chav in England) for instance, he's most likely to run in a crowd of people and feel a strong sense of loyalty and respect for those in his gang. its no great stretch to poet that over to a mujahideen mentality, people already fairly anti establishment wont recoil at the idea of bringing it all down for their brethren and live on in infamous memory.
Parents where alcoholics? The mujahid mentality sees alcohol as poision, consumed only by the weak. Allah wont let you down, Allah keeps his promises etc...

It seems fairly trivial to convert someone to become a fanatical zealot willing to die for a cause, and this is RIGHT HERE on our front door where theres everything bvilleuk listed and more.
Walk into any youth shelter or center and you've litteraly got your army just waiting to be indoctrinated, all thats needed is some questionable ethics, a pinch of dogma and voila a room full of people already looking to lash out at something are now ready to strap up and run into the nearest school.

Everyone already knows about kids in Chad, Burma, Somalia, Sri Lanka, Cambodia, Chechnya and so forth using kids as young as 8 as soldiers, what we fail to realise is that the UK and US have already sent kids as young as 16 out to Iraq passing it off as a clerical error or some other mistake. I dont know a 16yr old who wouldnt love the idea of tooling up and being rambo. I would have loved the idea at that age, largely because at 16 i was a complete idiot who had everything figured out ( not that thats actualy changed with age) what kid doesnt want to be Rambo? a lot of kids ive come into contact with are already suicidal, it would take absoloutly no effort to give them a bomb and have their lives "mean" something.

Excellent post mate.

[Bulld0g]

i Draw the line in between Religion and Race/Culture.

Like i said, i don't. I laugh at jokes about Christianity and i laugh at jokes about Muslims. No difference in my eyes, both are religions.

[opsmonkey]

Please explain to everyone that has commented on this Post how we are supposed to understand a Suicide Bomber.....

You won't be able to understand one as your views, morals and beliefs differ so drastically from those who beleive it is an appropriate weapon .. Islam itself deplores the act..

"O ye who believe! Remain steadfast for Allah, bearing witness to justice. Do not allow your hatred for others make you swerve to wrongdoing and turn you away from justice. Be just; that is closer to true piety."
- Qur'an, Surah al-Maidah (5:8)

A suicide bomb is a very effective weapon system, it can strike in a place of its choosing at a time of its choosing.. more importantly it is a weapon of fear, a weapon that effects the psychie of both the combatant and its enemy..

I fail to see the relevance of you having been there and fighting them.....

You fail to see a lot of things, most of the racist drivel you spouted in your earlier posts about wearing of "rags on heads" and "women not shaving" etc negate any thought process that could effectively understand the complexities of counter insurgency operations or tactics

You at least had the great courage to fight them face to face and not try and blow yourself and their women and children up with a suicide bomb.....

A suicide bomb has the same end impact of a 1000lb bomb dropped from an aeroplane or an artillery shell from a gun.. it is the delivery of the weapon that only differs, you beleive a suicide bomb is wrong just as another will say an airburst weapon dropped from 20'000ft is wrong..

It is a weapon of war and a very effective weapon.. to those who beleive a better place awaits a martyr then its a simple choice.. also their relatives are well looked after by the taliban after they have choosen this route..

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

You won't be able to understand one as your views, morals and beliefs differ so drastically from those who beleive it is an appropriate weapon .. Islam itself deplores the act..

"O ye who believe! Remain steadfast for Allah, bearing witness to justice. Do not allow your hatred for others make you swerve to wrongdoing and turn you away from justice. Be just; that is closer to true piety."
- Qur'an, Surah al-Maidah (5:8)

A suicide bomb is a very effective weapon system, it can strike in a place of its choosing at a time of its choosing.. more importantly it is a weapon of fear, a weapon that effects the psychie of both the combatant and its enemy..



You fail to see a lot of things, most of the racist drivel you spouted in your earlier posts about wearing of "rags on heads" and "women not shaving" etc negate any thought process that could effectively understand the complexities of counter insurgency operations or tactics



A suicide bomb has the same end impact of a 1000lb bomb dropped from an aeroplane or an artillery shell from a gun.. it is the delivery of the weapon that only differs, you beleive a suicide bomb is wrong just as another will say an airburst weapon dropped from 20'000ft is wrong..

It is a weapon of war and a very effective weapon.. to those who beleive a better place awaits a martyr then its a simple choice.. also their relatives are well looked after by the taliban after they have choosen this route..

i pressed the rep button for this post, it says that i must spread some more rep before i can rep you again :s. Atleast someone sees my point.

[Gumbo]

As for attacking Pakistan.. Why..? The Pakistani govt. doesnt support, train or arm any insurgency.. In fact it is currently involved in counter-insurgency operations in the north and west of pakistan in Taliban strongholds..

That is incorrect, in fact the SIS Secret Intelligence services have been funding terror groups to go and attack Indian targets in Kashmir for years (groups such as the mujahdeen). Now that the Pakistani government has had a falling out with the the SIS the two have differing ideologies on which side to support (Indians and the West or Afghanistan and the Taliban). The SIS have opted for the latter with or with the governments backing.

So far as suicide bombers go, can anyone be surprised that such cowardly organisations that believe in 50 virgins upon entry into heaven be right thinking individuals? This type of religious doctrine promotes it's followers to commit murder in the name of religion.

Still if I was ugly as ~~~~ and had no chance of ever getting laid, 50 virgins would seem mighty appealing.

Damn come to think of it, promising sex in exchange for murder is pretty revolting and not the stuff any religion should be made promoting.

[davieboy.rfc]

the answer is simple they r sick ****s that think they make a difference by blowing up whoever but its the innocent people who get blown up that make up the majority thats my opinion anyway peeps....