Why be a Suicide Bomber??

[bvilleuk]

Everyone seems to be wondering why the Muslim terrorists are so quick to commit suicide.

Let's see now:

No booze.
No bars.
No television.
No Internet.
No Baseball.
No Football.
No Basketball.
No Hockey.
No Golf, Soccer only, and all the time
No tailgate parties.
No tailgates on camels.
No Hooters.
No Pork BBQ.
No hot dogs.
No Burgers.
No lobster, shellfish, or even frozen fish sticks. Ever try to fish at an oasis?
Rags for clothes and hats.
Eating only with your right hand because you wipe only with your left.
(Like life isn't complicated enough already).
Constant wailing from the guy next door because he is sick and there are no doctors
Constant wailing from the guy in the tower.
No music.
No radio.
You can't shave.
Your wife can't shave.
You can't shower to wash off the smell of donkey cooked over burning camel dung.
The women have to wear baggy dresses and veils at all times.
Your bride is picked by someone else. She smells just like your donkey. But your donkey has a better disposition.

Then they tell you that when you die it all gets better!

No mystery here.

[forntida]

You are forgetting the reward. Seven virgins. Then again they might be 90 year old spinsters.

[bvilleuk]

You are forgetting the reward. Seven virgins. Then again they might be 90 year old spinsters.

7 Virgins ?? They'd better not come around Stockport way then.......

[thered]

Everyone seems to be wondering why the Muslim terrorists are so quick to commit suicide.

Let's see now:

No booze.
No bars.
No television.
No Internet.
No Baseball.
No Football.
No Basketball.
No Hockey.
No Golf, Soccer only, and all the time
No tailgate parties.
No tailgates on camels.
No Hooters.
No Pork BBQ.
No hot dogs.
No Burgers.
No lobster, shellfish, or even frozen fish sticks. Ever try to fish at an oasis?
Rags for clothes and hats.
Eating only with your right hand because you wipe only with your left.
(Like life isn't complicated enough already).
Constant wailing from the guy next door because he is sick and there are no doctors
Constant wailing from the guy in the tower.
No music.
No radio.
You can't shave.
Your wife can't shave.
You can't shower to wash off the smell of donkey cooked over burning camel dung.
The women have to wear baggy dresses and veils at all times.
Your bride is picked by someone else. She smells just like your donkey. But your donkey has a better disposition.

Then they tell you that when you die it all gets better!

No mystery here.

the hours are great too no double shifts

[maca]

if the social finds out, dose that mean somebody blew you up..

[thered]

and a lady suicide bomber could just blow you off

or a man if you prefer im not homo phobic

[chroma]

The sorry fact is its awfully easy to make a suicide bomber out of anyone.

Back when i worked with kids i found out relatively quickly how easily manipulated they where, kids that where abused, mistreated, drug addicts, dropouts or otherwise excluded will do anything you want should you give them even the slightest hint of positive attention and a channel for their anger, resentment and feeling of disenfranchisement.

I stumbled into this idea because of a recruitment officer for the Army, he was more than willing to tell kids exactly what they wanted to hear and instantly latched on to the abundance of anger and angst and feed that propaganda to suit his agenda.
I escorted him from the premises in a hurry after watching the sheer efficiency of how he operated. (i booted him not because i feel the army is a bad thing, but because he acted like a plastic surgeon convincing a client that its perfectly safe and essential to go under the knife, without presenting any opposing argument to form a well rounded opinion)

Take a Ned (Chav in England) for instance, he's most likely to run in a crowd of people and feel a strong sense of loyalty and respect for those in his gang. its no great stretch to poet that over to a mujahideen mentality, people already fairly anti establishment wont recoil at the idea of bringing it all down for their brethren and live on in infamous memory.
Parents where alcoholics? The mujahid mentality sees alcohol as poision, consumed only by the weak. Allah wont let you down, Allah keeps his promises etc...

It seems fairly trivial to convert someone to become a fanatical zealot willing to die for a cause, and this is RIGHT HERE on our front door where theres everything bvilleuk listed and more.
Walk into any youth shelter or center and you've litteraly got your army just waiting to be indoctrinated, all thats needed is some questionable ethics, a pinch of dogma and voila a room full of people already looking to lash out at something are now ready to strap up and run into the nearest school.

Everyone already knows about kids in Chad, Burma, Somalia, Sri Lanka, Cambodia, Chechnya and so forth using kids as young as 8 as soldiers, what we fail to realise is that the UK and US have already sent kids as young as 16 out to Iraq passing it off as a clerical error or some other mistake. I dont know a 16yr old who wouldnt love the idea of tooling up and being rambo. I would have loved the idea at that age, largely because at 16 i was a complete idiot who had everything figured out ( not that thats actualy changed with age) what kid doesnt want to be Rambo? a lot of kids ive come into contact with are already suicidal, it would take absoloutly no effort to give them a bomb and have their lives "mean" something.

[dwarez]

Damn! They`re sick!

[forntida]

Something that seems to be overlooked by most people is that most bombers are of Pakistan origin. We can't attack Pakistan however;

1. Their army is too big;
2. They have nuclear weapons
3. There would be more backlash/reprisals in this country.

Why not instead, ban all immigration from Pakistan until they stop arming and training the Afghans. ( I can't spell al-Qaeda or Mujahedin )

[chroma]

Something that seems to be overlooked by most people is that most bombers are of Pakistan origin. We can't attack Pakistan however;

1. Their army is too big;
2. They have nuclear weapons
3. There would be more backlash/reprisals in this country.

Why not instead, ban all immigration from Pakistan until they stop arming and training the Afghans. ( I can't spell al-Qaeda or Mujahedin )

Al-Qaeda (one of the only a handfull of words without a U after the Q) it means "The Base." al-Qaida and al-Qa'ida are also appropriate but lesser used.

And its Mujahid (Strugler) from Jihad (struggle) and Mujahideen is the plural (Strugglers)

[on_the_jazz]

The sorry fact is its awfully easy to make a suicide bomber out of anyone.

Back when i worked with kids i found out relatively quickly how easily manipulated they where, kids that where abused, mistreated, drug addicts, dropouts or otherwise excluded will do anything you want should you give them even the slightest hint of positive attention and a channel for their anger, resentment and feeling of disenfranchisement.

I stumbled into this idea because of a recruitment officer for the Army, he was more than willing to tell kids exactly what they wanted to hear and instantly latched on to the abundance of anger and angst and feed that propaganda to suit his agenda.
I escorted him from the premises in a hurry after watching the sheer efficiency of how he operated. (i booted him not because i feel the army is a bad thing, but because he acted like a plastic surgeon convincing a client that its perfectly safe and essential to go under the knife, without presenting any opposing argument to form a well rounded opinion)

Take a Ned (Chav in England) for instance, he's most likely to run in a crowd of people and feel a strong sense of loyalty and respect for those in his gang. its no great stretch to poet that over to a mujahideen mentality, people already fairly anti establishment wont recoil at the idea of bringing it all down for their brethren and live on in infamous memory.
Parents where alcoholics? The mujahid mentality sees alcohol as poision, consumed only by the weak. Allah wont let you down, Allah keeps his promises etc...

It seems fairly trivial to convert someone to become a fanatical zealot willing to die for a cause, and this is RIGHT HERE on our front door where theres everything bvilleuk listed and more.
Walk into any youth shelter or center and you've litteraly got your army just waiting to be indoctrinated, all thats needed is some questionable ethics, a pinch of dogma and voila a room full of people already looking to lash out at something are now ready to strap up and run into the nearest school.

Everyone already knows about kids in Chad, Burma, Somalia, Sri Lanka, Cambodia, Chechnya and so forth using kids as young as 8 as soldiers, what we fail to realise is that the UK and US have already sent kids as young as 16 out to Iraq passing it off as a clerical error or some other mistake. I dont know a 16yr old who wouldnt love the idea of tooling up and being rambo. I would have loved the idea at that age, largely because at 16 i was a complete idiot who had everything figured out ( not that thats actualy changed with age) what kid doesnt want to be Rambo? a lot of kids ive come into contact with are already suicidal, it would take absoloutly no effort to give them a bomb and have their lives "mean" something.

Good serious reply. Although there are a lot of impressionable young kids carrying out someone elses agenda there are suicide bombers who know exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it. I'm talking about places like Palestine where lets say someone has their whole family bombed but have no way of fighting back, no weapons, etc. They are then tempted to resort to suicide. Just a last resort in their suffering.

Something that seems to be overlooked by most people is that most bombers are of Pakistan origin. We can't attack Pakistan however;

1. Their army is too big;
2. They have nuclear weapons
3. There would be more backlash/reprisals in this country.

Why not instead, ban all immigration from Pakistan until they stop arming and training the Afghans. ( I can't spell al-Qaeda or Mujahedin )

Attack Pakistan? Have you considered running for office? You will fit right in. Btw most suicide bombers are of Saudi origin (in Iraq at least). You should look at the reasons for the bombings before thinking of engaging a whole nation.

[forntida]

Good serious reply. Although there are a lot of impressionable young kids carrying out someone elses agenda there are suicide bombers who know exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it. I'm talking about places like Palestine where lets say someone has their whole family bombed but have no way of fighting back, no weapons, etc. They are then tempted to resort to suicide. Just a last resort in their suffering.



Attack Pakistan? Have you considered running for office? You will fit right in. Btw most suicide bombers are of Saudi origin (in Iraq at least). You should look at the reasons for the bombings before thinking of engaging a whole nation.

I am not the least interested in Iraq, Afhanistan or any other country other than this one. We are only in those places because America and Blair with their alleged weapons of mass destruction. So when I talk of bombings I am talking of bombings in this country. Where did the most of these bombers or attempted bombers come from?

I may add that I hate people of any ethnic origin that maim and kill civilians in the name of their cause. I will not make excuses for them. Veiled or otherwise.

[bvilleuk]

You are forgetting the reward. Seven virgins. Then again they might be 90 year old spinsters.

Here's a Site they could check out .........

[dwarez]

Nice one!
Friend finder my ass!

[on_the_jazz]

I am not the least interested in Iraq, Afhanistan or any other country other than this one. We are only in those places because America and Blair with their alleged weapons of mass destruction. So when I talk of bombings I am talking of bombings in this country. Where did the most of these bombers or attempted bombers come from?

I may add that I hate people of any ethnic origin that maim and kill civilians in the name of their cause. I will not make excuses for them. Veiled or otherwise.

I'm not sure what the percentages are but even though you're saying they came from Pakistan weren't a lot of them born and brought up in the UK?

I'm not making excuses for them, I'm just saying attacking random countries isn't an answer.