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  • chroma
    V.I.P. Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 1976

    #1

    Political Insanity

    I got banned from an IRC room recently for using the word "JAP."

    Apparently its "offensive" and insensitive to people from Japan (of which i know a fair few and none of them have ever heard of anyone in their nation being offended by getting called a "Jap")

    Im not allowed to use Brainstorm at work instead we have to "thoughshower" so as not to offend the sensabilities of those of an epleleptic persuation...

    This got me to thinking, im from the west of scotland where sectarianism is rife, auld firm games are amazing at work because the bigotry really shines through.
    Apparently im a dirty orange hun, cream bun eatting redhanded proddy bastard etc this is apparently derogatory termanology from the beadrattling fenian, taigue famine ridden catholic scum.
    Celtic wins and more often than not the workplace becomes flled with the fields of athenry.
    Rangers win and its the same with the sash.

    The management seem to go seriously off their nuts when any of this is mentioned, however its all done in good spirits. no one even remotely takes any of it personaly and whenever anyone starts singing "low lie the fields of athenry" the common response is to belt out "I AM A LOYAL IRISHMAN" in true sash military cadance.

    Not exactly a big deal, everyone shakes hands afterwards and goes down the local and gets pished together.

    Same with niggers, kykes and greasers, chinks, spics and tinkers. I work with people from all over the world of every creed, colour, sexual orientation and race. We poke fun at both ourselves and each other. All the whilst working together and having a good time doing it.
    Take a south african collegue of mine, a white collegue put on a typical dutch SA accent and got tore into one of the best renditions ive ever heard eventualy rounding up to calling him "a smart Kaffa." everything said in jest. The Kaffa in question was buckled at the knees laughing about it as was everyone else within earshot except the management who went absoloutly apeshit.
    To which was responded, "no big deal id rather be a smart kaffa than a dirty soup eating famine dodging mick!" which again had everyone in stitches but only seemed to further the managements rage.

    These scenarios play out all the time and ive noticed that none of us proletariat scum working class underedjumakated folks seem to give a toss. life is hard you take your humour where you can get it, if only to make the job remotely bearable.

    The only people who seem to have a stick up their ass with regards to political correctness are the bourjois middle classes who think theyre entitled to influence every facet of society.

    So i say bollocks to the lot of it, im happy working in my multiracial society where im free to say whatever i feel like. knowing that the only people im remotely offending are the same pansie idiots whove never had to do a hard days graft in their puff. Simply killing time by filling their days preoccupied with championing some deluded cause they see as a threat to the fabric of society.

    Taigue, Hun, Nigger, Wog, Greaser, Goomba, Spic, Chink, Jap, Faggot, Dyke who really cares? everyone falls into some kind of "derogatory" term, so what? It still doesnt stop you, me or anyone else from standing shoulder to shoulder as brothers in arms working our fingers to the bone for a shit wage then pounding down the beers afterwards... Unless theyre Musilms, but theyre still more than welcome in my local, i'll even buy em a round of whatever softdrink they want!

    Banter is banter, so long as its not said in serious anger with the threat of violence then i'll happily let it slide.
    The point is everyone is completely different and that should be celebrated and rejoiced rather than hidden and some wierd taboo. Despite all of the multitude of differences everyones essentialy the same pissed off overworked cog in the machine, exactly as capable as the next. Being colourful about it never hurt anyone. The only reason any of us have at being pissed off at each other is down to someone kicking the baws out of a skive and giving everyone else more work to cover. Hardly a racial dispute.

    I dont think ive ever seen anyone being trully racist last all that long, to me racism is determined purely out of someones actions rather than their mouth. Someone calls you something you dont like? BAAAAAAAAAaaawwwwww must be a hard life. The reaction is simple enough, laugh it off and hit them back with a witty one liner and let everyone else have a laugh.
    Ive found throughout my life that this makes the world a much friendlier and happier place.
    People around here that get pissed off at naming a difference or even worse outright exclude someone because theyre "different" ultimately find that theyre the ones cast out for being morons. The system policies itself, if someones in good spirits about the whole thing and seem to understand its all just a bit of fun to ease the day forward then they fit in nicely.
    If not then they ultimately wind up promoted to the dole queue or worse still middle management.
    The only real argument ive seen was over a gay guy and someone else picking on him about it, this was easily resved with stating that "even if he likes an arse full of cock at least hes getting some, it could be worse he could be an ugly bastard wearing out his palm like yourself."

    If you ever feel the need to censure someone or resort to any kind of violence than your clearly the one with the problem, not the other person calling you a dirty orange hun.

    So yeah PC can kiss my ass.
    Its a device employed by the overly sensative molly coddled middle classes who genuinely have a problem they cant seem to get past.
    Last edited by chroma; 19 October, 2009, 23:56.
    He who laughs last thinks slowest.
  • forntida
    DK Veteran
    • Feb 2009
    • 1281

    #2
    I think management have to be careful that they are not taken to court for allowing someone to be racially abused. O,K they might appear to take it in good humour, till someone says 'You could make a bit of money out off this.' The management pick up the tab.

    I agree with you about the PC brigade. I say what I like, when and where I like. I sometimes look over my shoulder first though.
    Last edited by forntida; 20 October, 2009, 08:38. Reason: spelling
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    • chroma
      V.I.P. Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 1976

      #3
      I dont see any abuse though, thats the point.
      Me calling someone a totty muncher in jest isnt me being abusive.

      If i was to deny someone an opportunity or to in someway exclude or make life more difficult on an individual based on being a "dirty beadrattler" or even the polar oposite of making life easier on the fact, then id be crossing the line to being a racist, bigoted dickhead and then i should be taken to court.

      I just dont see how calling someone something can be of any real harm, more often than not its a humerous proclaimation of an imagined or percieved difference that never really exists.
      Although im wierd, i will genuinely work with anyone and not really care about anything other than their ability to perform to the job spec.
      He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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      • ruudvandan
        DK Veteran
        • Dec 2008
        • 1091

        #4
        The best part about it is, we can't even call black people black.We are told (by the PC brigade) to call them Afro-Carribean, which in my opinion is more offensive, as it assumes every black person in the country has come from the carribean
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        • chroma
          V.I.P. Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 1976

          #5
          i still use the term "Black"

          I can vividly remember the same collegue who got called a "kaffa" scaring the shit out of a white kid

          The little kid was with his mom and pointed and said "Look mommy hes black!" to which he turned round and looked himself up and down and screamed "JESUS CHRIST SO I AM! HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? RUN KID I THINK IT MIGHT BE CONTAGIOUS!" the kid ran away screaming and by that point i had collapsed in laughter unable to calm the child down.

          The kids mom just looked at the pair of us with contempt
          He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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          • Gumbo
            Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 88

            #6
            Interesting post about the middle classes but I'm middle class and was accused of making racist comments just yesterday so your argument does not stand. I huess it's impossible to generalise.

            Personally I'd blame the media and the European Courts for the over campaigning of individual human rights for the explosion in political correctness during the past 20 years. I think it's hypocritical that black people can call each others nigga's in rap music and then play the race card when some white dude uses that term in any way whether written or spoken.

            It's a messed up world and a very confused Britain.

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            • ruudvandan
              DK Veteran
              • Dec 2008
              • 1091

              #7
              Originally posted by Gumbo
              I think it's hypocritical that black people can call each others nigga's in rap music and then play the race card when some white dude uses that term in any way whether written or spoken.

              It's a messed up world and a very confused Britain.
              completely agree. I have heard black people say nigga is "a term of endearment". So I always question why it isn't endearing when a white person uses it. I then go on to explain that their reaction to it is based on the colour of the skin of the person using it - making them the racist.
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              • bvilleuk
                DK Veteran
                • Aug 2009
                • 625

                #8
                Originally posted by Gumbo
                Interesting post about the middle classes but I'm middle class and was accused of making racist comments just yesterday so your argument does not stand. I huess it's impossible to generalise.

                Personally I'd blame the media and the European Courts for the over campaigning of individual human rights for the explosion in political correctness during the past 20 years. I think it's hypocritical that black people can call each others nigga's in rap music and then play the race card when some white dude uses that term in any way whether written or spoken.

                It's a messed up world and a very confused Britain.
                The RACE card again. I have a very good friend who is black... He calls me HONKY CAT -- should I be offended??!!

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                • dctyper
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 2539

                  #9
                  my md(baring in mind i work for the largest food company in europe) insinuated i was guy in a meeting yesterday, was i offended, no but other people coukd think i was offended and THATS what causes problems

                  i think this is the same when it comes to race ect, its what we think other people might thinks, its bloody stupid

                  for the record im happily married and have children
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                  • chroma
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1976

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dctyper
                    my md(baring in mind i work for the largest food company in europe) insinuated i was guy in a meeting yesterday, was i offended, no but other people coukd think i was offended and THATS what causes problems

                    i think this is the same when it comes to race ect, its what we think other people might thinks, its bloody stupid

                    for the record im happily married and have children
                    I woulda instantly hit back with "why that? you cruising for a piece of ass there? i can sort you out but your going to have to pay top whack for being an ugly bastard."

                    Then follow up with "whats the going rate for a rent boy nowadays anyway? surely a man of your stature would know current pricelists."

                    Then again i always fight fire with fire, i personaly dont give a toss what people think of me at work, im there to do a job and get out as soon as i can, ive got plenty of friends and family i dont get the opportunity to see nearly as oftten as id like

                    I dont mind being thought of as anything, i mean i know the truth and those closest to me know the truth, anyone elses opinion is outwith my control, so why worry?
                    He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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                    • thered
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 4915

                      #11
                      i think if you want to call someone something whatevever it may be it is your perogative we live in a country that fought wars for freedom now we cannot speak freely

                      i have no qualms in anyone calling me a white honky or such i find it quite amusing and with black people you know well you can have a good laugh and rip in to each other but i am sick of watching what i say around a lot of people because its frowned upon

                      and for me the people who frown upon it are the racist ones thats because they are uneasy about it so they over compensate there reaction to look anti racist

                      i find it the same with the old bottom ticklers i know quite a few i am very open with them i call them queens queers and puffs people who dont know them say i shouldnt say it its derogatry, these are the same people who distance themselves and do not talk to them i however talk freely to them but im derogatry how does that work?

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                      • forntida
                        DK Veteran
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 1281

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dctyper
                        my md(baring in mind i work for the largest food company in europe) insinuated i was guy in a meeting yesterday, was i offended, no but other people coukd think i was offended and THATS what causes problems

                        i think this is the same when it comes to race ect, its what we think other people might thinks, its bloody stupid

                        for the record im happily married and have children
                        You should have replied immediately with 'I thought we agreed to keep that a secret between ourselves'. Put the ball(s) in his court.
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