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  • Bulld0g
    V.I.P. Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 7158

    #1

    Internet forums and Censorship

    It's happening more and more without reason. Censorship. Whats happening to freedom of speech on, of all places internet forums?
    You would expect censorship in the media. Tv, Newspapers etc but internet forums, the very place where freedom of speech would be guaranteed is becoming subdued in the least.

    It's blatantly obviouse that if theres a "touchy" subject, then the plug is pulled before we're allowed to debate it.
    WHY? as long as theres no racial abuse why can't we debate things?
    I for one am getting bored. This is one of the friendliest , if not THE friendliest forum on the net. Let's not turn it into a boring timid no balls forum. Let the members have a say of what they feel regardless of the topic. That's what forums are supposed to be about. If OTT insults fly then thats where the mods should step in ,and then only.

    THE TRUTH
    The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

    Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
    The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.
  • mickyboy
    DK Veteran
    • Nov 2008
    • 524

    #2
    mmm i ggree to a certain extent m8 but rulz are rulz ,,ano there meant to be broken ,bent blah blah ,,but at the end of the day if there offending other members then its gotta be looked at ,,,,,

    what about a seperate section ,a section to get it off yer chest ,a ranting section you know what i mean and it coud be modded accordingley ,,,

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    • Bulld0g
      V.I.P. Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 7158

      #3
      Originally posted by mickyboy
      mmm i ggree to a certain extent m8 but rulz are rulz ,,ano there meant to be broken ,bent blah blah ,,but at the end of the day if there offending other members then its gotta be looked at ,,,,,

      what about a seperate section ,a section to get it off yer chest ,a ranting section you know what i mean and it coud be modded accordingley ,,,
      No m8 you miss the point. No rules are broken, threads are pulled for no reason. If they broke the rules then fair play if they have broke the rules. but when a thread is closed because it MIGHT be heading in the wrong direction, thats just wrong. Don't anticipate the outcome, follow the thread and judge it by i'ts posts,

      THE TRUTH
      The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

      Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
      The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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      • mickyboy
        DK Veteran
        • Nov 2008
        • 524

        #4
        ahh wif ya m8 ,,great point, just let some threads that are looking a bit iffy flow and we might get some quality banter ,,

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        • Bulld0g
          V.I.P. Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 7158

          #5
          Exacrly m8. Let them flow. if you can't speak your moind on a forum where can you ? Not on the streets of England thats for sure

          THE TRUTH
          The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

          Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
          The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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          • Stuart 0366
            Top Poster +
            • Sep 2009
            • 206

            #6
            I agree we should be able to debate things of all types but think of the mods especially in a forum of this size. They have so much to trawl through to make sure we are being good in the first place, the censorship makes sense for them to a certain extent.

            In saying that, I am sure the mods themselves like a good "debate" and rant on occasion and they unlike us are more bound by their positions as responsible people of the forum so they cannot give their all.

            At the end of the day it is PC gone mad being policed by guys with the same general feelings as us but powerless to do anything about it if the forum is to be kept running.

            Shame have to be followed at times.
            Virgin Tivo 500Gb

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            • maca
              Mr. DK DJ
              • Feb 2009
              • 6310

              #7
              Originally posted by Bulld0g
              Exacrly m8. Let them flow. if you can't speak your moind on a forum where can you ? Not on the streets of England thats for sure
              i agree you pair of drunken coonts

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              • Bulld0g
                V.I.P. Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 7158

                #8
                Originally posted by Stuart 0366
                I agree we should be able to debate things of all types but think of the mods especially in a forum of this size. They have so much to trawl through to make sure we are being good in the first place, the censorship makes sense for them to a certain extent.

                In saying that, I am sure the mods themselves like a good "debate" and rant on occasion and they unlike us are more bound by their positions as responsible people of the forum so they cannot give their all.

                At the end of the day it is PC gone mad being policed by guys with the same general feelings as us but powerless to do anything about it if the forum is to be kept running.

                Shame have to be followed at times.
                You too miss the point m8. I have already said if rules are broken then the thread should be closed.I am saying, this is not always the case when some threads are closed.

                Let forums live in the spirit they are intended. We don't want a free for all but i would like to see constructive debates an whatever topic it may be.

                THE TRUTH
                The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

                Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
                The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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                • Stuart 0366
                  Top Poster +
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 206

                  #9
                  Duly noted and point taken (you argumentative bugger )

                  Unfortunately you had already replied back to Mickeyboy when I was posting mine so never saw it in time
                  Virgin Tivo 500Gb

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                  • smirnoff_rules
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 8603

                    #10
                    l closed the bnp one because it turned into a football rant .. and we all know where they end up , so l pulled it and l will again
                    any information provided is for educational/experimental purposes only.

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                    • ibrahimhassan
                      Newbie
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 2

                      #11
                      lets all respect the rules ya,ll

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                      • Bulld0g
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 7158

                        #12
                        Fair play on that m8. I agree that was off topic, as i said in the thread. I'm not talking about any thread in particuar or nor indeed am i having a snipe at any mod. I'm making a general observation of how some threads are pulled for no apparent reason. The thread you mention was a good example of letting something run then closing it when it needed to be.

                        THE TRUTH
                        The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

                        Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
                        The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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                        • dale094
                          Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 41

                          #13
                          threats then thread pulled

                          thanks Bulldog

                          I hosted a thread with a video URL in the current affairs topic
                          which was not racist or inflamitory and it was pulled without any reason or complaint from any MOD.

                          I then posted another thread asking why it was pulled and for what reason there were a couple of reply's but non from any mods.

                          then a op posted protesting that he viewed the video and did not find it offensive racist or inflamatory, and that he thought the mods were wrong on this 1.

                          that was promptly followed by (AFTERMATH) telling me the video was shit and if i carried on i would be banned for life, or in his words take a holiday.

                          He the quickly pulled that thread.

                          is this what we call freedom of speech or is it what the mods want us to here, smacks of the labour party to me:

                          well Bulldog, dont you think this smacks just what you are saying.

                          JUST BECAUSE HE THINKS ITS SHIT.

                          i would like to debate the very reasons and dont think any mod should deny any member any reasonable free speech that are wthin the rules of this forum.

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                          • cunny
                            V.I.P. Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 4915

                            #14
                            I have no problem with open, good debates as long as its kept within the Rules and a little common sense are applied.

                            No Racism in any shape or form. (Goes in all shapes and sizes)
                            No links on any ways to ~~~~ (if you want it, go google for it)
                            No posts that other members could find offensive. (Fron the rules Any racist, bigotry or discriminating posts will not be tolerated)

                            Basically keep it within the rules, and not to upset any other member (or try not to) and its totally fine.

                            I also think we have the friendliest forums on the net that i have come accross. But a line has to be drawn somewhere.

                            The mods/admin here do a great job in keeping us just in line, letting us just get on with it, but they DO HAVE A JOB TO DO. So if your thread/post could be deemed as offensive, then it should be closed without notice
                            Last edited by cunny; 10 January, 2010, 20:58.
                            sigpic

                            "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot."

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                            • chroma
                              V.I.P. Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 1976

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mickyboy
                              mmm i ggree to a certain extent m8 but rulz are rulz ,,ano there meant to be broken ,bent blah blah ,,but at the end of the day if there offending other members then its gotta be looked at ,,,,,

                              what about a seperate section ,a section to get it off yer chest ,a ranting section you know what i mean and it coud be modded accordingley ,,,
                              A forum i used to frequent years ago had a section called "the cesspool" where it was no holds barred.

                              If a post descended into flames and abuse it got punted to the cesspool to allow members to tussle it out within reason.

                              THE CESSPOOL
                              This is a very immature and flammable forum, enter with caution. Not recommended if you are at work or school.
                              FLAMMABLE
                              If people continualy broke the rules they got their permissions recinded and could only post in the pool till they "redemed" themselves. To great and often humerous effect, hell they even tossed established members in the pool on quiet weeks just to kill the boredom, only for people to sign in and realise theyre trapped with the morons in the pool
                              Nothing funnier than playing a joke on someone with a great reputation and post count

                              This being said it was a site geared towards tournaments so tempers did flare up fairly frequently between competative individuals over the nights matches and more often than not fighting, shit slinging and dick waving contests broke out. This isnt to say it was malicious, more funny and friendly.
                              When you play regularly with people you relly get to know them and you can take it in good spirit, the pool just prevented threads getting derailed by egos, a simple prune job to a new thread in the pool (often with hilarious titles) so if anyone was interested they could spectate the ego clash ensue

                              It would be nice to see something simmilar develop here, a sub forum which is clearly marked as containing content likely to offend, and its far better to demote people to the pool and watch the developments than simply ban or suspend a user it also cut out proxying and multiple account behavior.

                              All this being said however I fail completely to see how anyone can get easily offended at posts though, i mean if you read the title before clicking you can more often than not tell if its going to aggrivate some kind of mental hemorrhoid before you get into it. so im more than a little biased in my opinions here.

                              Live and let live, if someone wants to hold a belief then so be it, i do enjoy arguing though
                              He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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