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  • Bulld0g
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    • Apr 2008
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    An overdraft? That'll be ?200 at Lloyds TSB (but only ?15 if you're a Muslim) Read m

    Many Lloyds TSB customers are being hit with charges of up to ?200 a month if they go into the red - while Muslims who use the bank are only being charged ?15.

    The part-nationalised bank has been accused of religious discrimination over the disparity between overdraft charges on its standard current account and its Islamic account.

    The Islamic account was set up by the high street bank to attract Muslim customers by allowing them to keep faithful to their religion.

    Sharia law does not permit the payment of interest so the 'typical' Islamic account at Lloyds TSB has been set up without an overdraft facility.
    No interest is charged on Islamic accounts, while customers with a normal account are hit with charges of up to ?200

    Other rules: No interest is charged on Islamic accounts, while customers with a normal account are hit with charges of up to ?200

    If a Muslim customer who has insufficient funds in the account tries to make a payment, it is blocked and a 'return item fee' is charged.

    However, on some Islamic accounts such a payment is authorised and an 'unplanned overdraft fee' of ?15 is then levied.

    The bank says this is a management fee, not a payment of interest, so does not contradict Sharia law.

    Meanwhile, customers with standard current accounts who go into the red by at least ?100 without authorisation are hit with an 'unplanned overdraft fee' of ?20 a day for a maximum of ten days. This could mean a customer has to pay ?200 in one month.

    The Islamic account is available to all customers at Lloyds TSB. In theory, anyone who does not need a permanent overdraft facility could switch to this account to avoid being hit by interest charges for going into the red.

    The disparity between the two accounts emerged after the bank sent its customers a booklet this month explaining its charges.

    Graham Milne, a customer and chartered accountant from Norham, Northumberland, said difference in fees was tantamount to 'religious discrimination'.

    He added: 'This means that all the non-Islamic account holders are subsidising those with such an account. It strikes me as something which is bordering on illegal.

    'One cannot help feeling the organisation is bending over backwards to help Muslims to the detriment of everybody else.

    'The man in the street would say this is a form of theft. Whether you call it a management fee or an interest fee, it makes no odds because they mean the same thing.'

    In the past few years, millions of customers at all the major high street banks have demanded the return of money which has been taken from their account in various forms of bank charges.

    Many got their money, or the majority of it, back. A test case - designed to rule if such charges are illegal - is going through the House of Lords.

    Until it is resolved, the subject continues to remain hotly contested.

    A Lloyds TSB spokesman said: 'The Islamic current account is for customers who cannot receive credit or debit interest due to their religious beliefs.

    'All of our Islamic accounts comply with Islamic law and are available to anyone regardless of background or faith.

    'These accounts are structured differently to our traditional accounts and are designed to help prevent a customer slipping into the red. A comparison with the overdraft charging structure on other accounts is meaningless.'

    Earlier this month, it emerged that losses at Lloyds had escalated to ?13.4billion - largely due to the reckless lending of Halifax Bank of Scotland, which it bought for ?9.6billion in January.

    The disastrous merger led to a ?17billion taxpayer bail-out. The newly-formed Lloyds Banking Group is 43 per cent owned by the taxpayer.


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz19P09LHAc


    Anyone who regulary gets overdrawn might be just as well applying for one of these accounts. As stated, it is open to everyone. I wonder if this applies to loans too. Interest free lone anyone

    THE TRUTH
    The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

    Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
    The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.
  • nara
    DK Veteran
    • May 2008
    • 2586

    #2
    Dated August 22nd 2009? Why are we digging up an old non-story?

    Anyhow...

    "Lloyds TSB spokesman said, "The Islamic current account is for customers who cannot receive credit or debit interest due to their religious beliefs. All of our Islamic accounts comply with Islamic law and are available to anyone regardless of background or faith. These accounts are structured differently to our traditional accounts and are designed to help prevent a customer slipping into the red. A comparison with the overdraft charging structure on other accounts is meaningless."

    (Source: Daily Mail, Aug/09)"
    He who laughs last probably didn't get the joke.

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    • mattybhoy
      DK Veteran
      • Dec 2009
      • 1046

      #3
      Agree. If this ia an article from Aug 2009 why are we talking about it??

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      • Bulld0g
        V.I.P. Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 7158

        #4
        Originally posted by nara

        and are available to anyone regardless of background or faith.
        Isn't that what i said ?
        "Anyone who regulary gets overdrawn might be just as well applying for one of these accounts. As stated, it is open to everyone. I wonder if this applies to loans too. Interest free lone anyone "

        I have only just come accross it and how is it a non story ? Have TSB stopped it now ?

        THE TRUTH
        The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

        Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
        The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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        • Bulld0g
          V.I.P. Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 7158

          #5
          Originally posted by mattybhoy
          Agree. If this ia an article from Aug 2009 why are we talking about it??
          As above..

          THE TRUTH
          The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

          Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
          The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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          • opsmonkey
            V.I.P. Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 5379

            #6
            that's a fcuking joke... one law for all in this country.. it gets on my fcuking tits... what would happen if i wanted western laws implemented in Saudi.. I'd get my fcuking hand chopped off that's what

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            • cantona7
              V.I.P. Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 936

              #7
              if they want sharia laws then they should live in a muslim country , wether that be honour killings or poxy bank accounts ,as the old addage says "when in rome......"

              when the sea gulls follow the trawler,it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea

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              • Wolfpack
                DK Veteran
                • Jan 2010
                • 1530

                #8
                I wish it was against Sharia law to charge money for oil.

                Wasn't there some blind Muslim that spoke of the evil of
                west and how bad the English were all the while living in England and collecting welfare from the Government.

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