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  • cablefreejunkie
    DK Veteran
    • Jul 2008
    • 1717

    #1

    Soldering correctly

    Hi
    Need to solder a 3 core flex cable to a male kettle type plug
    Whats the correct method to do so
    Ie what do you solder first etc
    Any help much appreciated
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  • xant14
    V.I.P. Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 2062

    #2
    go down the tip... ~~~~ing loads about, borrow one from your amp to boil your kettle, then plug it back in the amp for your archers hour

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    • satsmo
      V.I.P. Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 6397

      #3
      Why are you soldering it? Is it a moulded kettle plug?

      If so I would advise you to not solder it and go and buy one, (euro type plug), with screw terminals as per a standard plug.

      If you really need to solder it then use a 1.5 flex and follow the standard colour code and then use plenty of insulating tape or use a connector block instead and tape that also. But I would do above as said before either of these.

      I think I may be getting you wrong though or am I?
      Last edited by satsmo; 1 June, 2011, 21:20. Reason: plug
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      • cablefreejunkie
        DK Veteran
        • Jul 2008
        • 1717

        #4
        Originally posted by xant14
        go down the tip... ~~~~ing loads about, borrow one from your amp to boil your kettle, then plug it back in the amp for your archers hour
        Xanti i dont need a kettle lead
        The control of information is the consolidation of power

        ?I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain?s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.? ? Nathan Rothschild



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        • cablefreejunkie
          DK Veteran
          • Jul 2008
          • 1717

          #5
          Originally posted by satsmo
          Why are you soldering it? Is it a moulded kettle plug?

          If so I would advise you to not solder it and go and buy one, (euro type plug), with screw terminals as per a standard plug.

          If you really need to solder it then use a 1.5 flex and follow the standard colour code and then use plenty of insulating tape or use a connector block instead and tape that also. But I would do above as said before either of these.

          I think I may be getting you wrong though or am I?
          What i have is a non moulded male 3 flat pin plug looks like kettle lead its off a camera crane
          Im working on afilm set
          The plug needs to be soldered onto a three core flex
          Basically 3copper wires onto three metal pins
          Hope that makes sense
          The control of information is the consolidation of power

          ?I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain?s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.? ? Nathan Rothschild



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          • satsmo
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            • Jun 2008
            • 6397

            #6
            Kinda but a pic would help if possible?

            Otherwise at a guess earth is the centre pin, live will be bottom left and neutral will be bottom right. This is with the pins facing you.

            If you get it wrong you will trip the RCD that's if that is wired correctly
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            • cablefreejunkie
              DK Veteran
              • Jul 2008
              • 1717

              #7
              Originally posted by satsmo
              Kinda but a pic would help if possible?

              Otherwise at a guess earth is the centre pin, live will be bottom left and neutral will be bottom right. This is with the pins facing you.

              If you get it wrong you will trip the RCD that's if that is wired correctly
              Looks like im confusing peeps
              Im fine with polarity etc just not great at soldering
              Do i put solder on copper and metal put two together then hold iron on top ? Its the method i want to know
              The control of information is the consolidation of power

              ?I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain?s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.? ? Nathan Rothschild



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              • satsmo
                V.I.P. Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 6397

                #8
                Yes that's the basics of it. Put a small bit of solder, (tinning), on copper and a small bit on the metal and hold together with the iron tip, that's it.

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                • racin-snake
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 2285

                  #9
                  try to tin both parts with lots of flux favouring the end that needs most heat the put then together add some more solder and hold it till it sets
                  biggest problem will be heat control
                  but basically tin both and apply more solder and decent flux is vital
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                  • cablefreejunkie
                    DK Veteran
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 1717

                    #10
                    Originally posted by satsmo
                    Yes that's the basics of it. Put a small bit of solder, (tinning), on copper and a small bit on the metal and hold together with the iron tip, that's it.

                    Soldering Guide
                    I knew we would get there in the end
                    One last q
                    Do you let the solder go off on both copper and metal b4 holding together and re melting the solder together ? Or should it be soldered together immediately ?
                    The control of information is the consolidation of power

                    ?I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain?s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.? ? Nathan Rothschild



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                    • satsmo
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                      • Jun 2008
                      • 6397

                      #11
                      Let it set but that will only take a second or two either way. Ideally as racin said the flux remaining on the tip from the tinning process will help when making the final joint.
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                      • racin-snake
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 2285

                        #12
                        yea let the tinning set then its just the solder you need to melt
                        to to add more to stick the two parts
                        (i think thats what your asking )

                        as satsmo's said takes two sec's then hold till it sets as heat might take a while to dissipate
                        Last edited by racin-snake; 2 June, 2011, 15:44.
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                        • chroma
                          V.I.P. Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1976

                          #13
                          I thought they where just crimps to be honest Cable.

                          You sure the pins don't come out of the housing and just get crimped with a set of pliers? then slide the lot back into the housing?
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                          • cablefreejunkie
                            DK Veteran
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1717

                            #14
                            Originally posted by chroma
                            I thought they where just crimps to be honest Cable.

                            You sure the pins don't come out of the housing and just get crimped with a set of pliers? then slide the lot back into the housing?
                            TBH the plug they gave which was a new one from maplins i think, the ends of the pins in the housing all had a little round hole in them so maybe yes they should be crimped and then a very small nut and bolt to fix the crimp to the pins
                            Deffo not a boot lace crimp and you have to take the top houseing off to remove the pins
                            The control of information is the consolidation of power

                            ?I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain?s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.? ? Nathan Rothschild



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                            • chroma
                              V.I.P. Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 1976

                              #15
                              They dont like making things simple and straightforward any more do they?
                              I'm sure they hire two teams of designers nowadays, one to cook up problems to solutions and another to cook up solutions to problems, then pit them against each other...
                              He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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