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  • gregk
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    • Jan 2010
    • 242

    #16
    In ether case heating will work ok until you get the water sorted. If you can not get a plumber in tommorrow to get it sorted you should be able to do it your self now you can get a push fit connectors which work very well and are easy to use. Or you can get a flexi pipe with 15mm compresion connector at each end. What you do is cut out a bit off pipe where it's burst and put flexi pipe in it's place . Or if pipe only goes to washing machine and no where else cut pipe before crack fracture and put compresion or push fit stop end ,that will allow you to put water back on untill some one will come out. If you where in B-ham I would do it for you if you had no luck getting plumber out.

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    • footycard steve
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      • May 2009
      • 778

      #17
      Originally posted by SatSearching
      if you have turned off the downstairs stop cock, then a fair bit of water in pipes upstairs may be draining down causing the leak.

      Try opening the powest point to fully drain off?

      I'm no plumber by the way, but has anyone during this cold spell had problems with condensor boilers freezing on the condenser drain off?

      SS
      i have no idea what the powest point is or looks like but water is still coming out downstairs

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      • SatSearching
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        • Apr 2008
        • 447

        #18
        Originally posted by gizmo.1484
        Yes.... I must have have fixed about 10 this week. Its been crazy
        Condensor outlets you mean?

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        • SatSearching
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          • Apr 2008
          • 447

          #19
          Originally posted by footycard steve
          i have no idea what the powest point is or looks like but water is still coming out downstairs
          Near to your stop cock should be another tap (just above) to drain the system.

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          • gregk
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            • Jan 2010
            • 242

            #20
            Originally posted by SatSearching

            I'm no plumber by the way, but has anyone during this cold spell had problems with condensor boilers freezing on the condenser drain off?

            SS
            Yep had to do my mum's couple of days ago it's a second time it happened. What I did this time round is put some pipe lagging on condensing pipe to hopefully prevent it from happening again.[it feeds in to stack pipe] Time will tell if it works or not.
            Last edited by gregk; 24 December, 2010, 01:16.

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            • footycard steve
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              • May 2009
              • 778

              #21
              Originally posted by gregk
              In ether case heating will work ok until you get the water sorted. If you can not get a plumber in tommorrow to get it sorted you should be able to do it your self now you can get a push fit connectors which work very well and are easy to use. Or you can get a flexi pipe with 15mm compresion connector at each end. What you do is cut out a bit off pipe where it's burst and put flexi pipe in it's place . Or if pipe only goes to washing machine and no where else cut pipe before crack fracture and put compresion or push fit stop end ,that will allow you to put water back on untill some one will come out. If you where in B-ham I would do it for you if you had no luck getting plumber out.
              thanks for the advice and the kind offer of help but i'm in tyne and wear

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              • gizmo.1484
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                • Apr 2008
                • 873

                #22
                Originally posted by footycard steve
                i have no idea what the powest point is or looks like but water is still coming out downstairs
                Powest= lowest just a spelling mistake.
                If water is still coming out open the lowest tap in the house then open all tapes up stares. This will get rid of all the water. If it still leaks then that means you have not turned the stop cock all the way off...

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                • gizmo.1484
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                  • Apr 2008
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by SatSearching
                  Condensor outlets you mean?
                  Yes m8 condenser pipes..

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                  • SatSearching
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                    • Apr 2008
                    • 447

                    #24
                    Originally posted by gizmo.1484
                    Yes m8 condenser pipes..
                    Interesting to see the condensor drain issues, I never had this before but had to unfreeze mine twice too this year.

                    Correct Gizmo, was a typo, corrected it now, should have been "Lowest" as you pointed out.

                    SS

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                    • footycard steve
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                      • May 2009
                      • 778

                      #25
                      we've had a frozen drain pipe for the last week and were told to wait for it to thaw as we have standing water in the bath and sink thats not moving so have been using the bathroom just the downstairs sink to get washed in, so have not used those taps for a week. we do have a tap on the outside of the utility/coal house should i try turning that on?

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                      • gizmo.1484
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                        • Apr 2008
                        • 873

                        #26
                        Originally posted by SatSearching
                        Interesting to see the condensor drain issues, I never had this before but had to unfreeze mine twice too this year.

                        Correct Gizmo, was a typo, corrected it now, should have been "Lowest" as you pointed out.

                        SS
                        It's a big problem with these condensing boilers because the condensation from the flue just trickles down the condensing pipe it has more chance of freezing. Then it just keeps building up until it completely freezes. Then the water just backs up and stops the boiler from operating as it can not work with out the condensing pipe..

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                        • gregk
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                          • Jan 2010
                          • 242

                          #27
                          How fast is the water comming out the burst pipe is it just alittle or fast with a hiss?
                          If it's a converted coal house/ outside toilet have a look if you have another stop valve in utility room some time you will have two cold water supplyes 1 for house other for outside toilet which ussaly have a coal house next to it.

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                          • SatSearching
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                            • Apr 2008
                            • 447

                            #28
                            Originally posted by footycard steve
                            we've had a frozen drain pipe for the last week and were told to wait for it to thaw as we have standing water in the bath and sink thats not moving so have been using the bathroom just the downstairs sink to get washed in, so have not used those taps for a week. we do have a tap on the outside of the utility/coal house should i try turning that on?
                            When you say "Drain pipe" do you mean draining water from the roof?

                            This is known as "top water", and shouldn't go in the same drain as your bath water.

                            Sounds like you have a very cold house if internal waste drains are freezing?

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                            • gizmo.1484
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                              • Apr 2008
                              • 873

                              #29
                              Originally posted by footycard steve
                              we've had a frozen drain pipe for the last week and were told to wait for it to thaw as we have standing water in the bath and sink thats not moving so have been using the bathroom just the downstairs sink to get washed in, so have not used those taps for a week. we do have a tap on the outside of the utility/coal house should i try turning that on?
                              Just turn on all the taps you can m8..
                              It sounds like this is not your week.

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                              • reddevil157
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                                • Jan 2010
                                • 1427

                                #30
                                We haven't had the likes of these temps before and its causing havoc with condensing boiler's and pipe work for everyone.
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