Invaded by travellers, ignored by the police. Now this farmer is facing a ?20,000 fin

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  • super jumbe
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    • Dec 2008
    • 11610

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    Invaded by travellers, ignored by the police. Now this farmer is facing a ?20,000 fin



    They arrived on his picturesque farm three years ago in a threatening convoy of caravans and lorries. And they have remained there illegally ever since.
    Desperate for help, Gerald Cleave turned to police ? only to be warned, with frustrating inevitability, that he could be arrested if he tried to force them out himself.
    Now officials have finally taken action.
    But, astonishingly, that action is to tell Mr Cleave that if the travellers do not move on, it is he who will face prosecution.
    The 68-year-old has been informed he faced fines of up to ?20,000 if the 50-strong community remains there today.
    He was handed an enforcement notice by the Dartmoor National Park Authority threatening prosecution unless the camp was cleared by midnight last night.
    The farmer said the brazen travellers have turned his agricultural land into an eyesore and have even arranged for their post ? including insurance documents and catalogue orders ? to be delivered to his farmhouse.
    Yesterday he recalled how he pleaded with the group to leave the one-acre site at Middle Stidson Farm in South Brent, Devon, when they first arrived.
    Mr Cleave was shocked when the National Park Authority, which is responsible for planning issues in the area, told him it had no legal powers to evict.
    He said police then warned him he could be arrested for assault or criminal damage if he intervened directly.
    After the travellers arrived in May 2008, an application to turn the camp into a permanent site was refused. The group was served with an enforcement notice in August last year giving them nine months to leave.
    But Mr Cleave was furious when a similar notice was sent to him.
    He said: ?It?s ridiculous to think I could be left with a huge fine from all this. I don?t see why I should have to spend thousands getting rid of them. I?d rather go to prison than pay a penny. I have been given notice from Dartmoor National Park Authority that they must leave but they haven?t given me any help.
    He described the past three years as a ?living hell? and claimed his ?hands were bound?.
    ?I?ve owned this land my whole life. It was inherited from my father and I have had to watch as it has been turned into a mess,? he said.
    ?I?m desperate to get them out so I can get my land back and use it for agricultural land again. As it stands, there are at least 40 vehicles on the land, which is now a sprawling mess with horses and dogs running about.



    ?I?m at a complete loss as to what to do. I?ve tried everything legally within my powers.
    ?I could forcibly remove them but might face prosecution. I?ve asked them to leave and they won?t listen to reason, what more can I do? It?s the law of the land and the reason why this country has gone to pot.?
    Dartmoor National Park Authority confirmed it had served an enforcement notice to the landowner ruling the travellers must leave.
    Stephen Belli, director of planning, said if the group hadn?t moved on, the authority had five options, one of which was prosecuting the owner.
    Others included prosecuting the occupiers or imposing a court injunction to imprison those still there.
    He said: ?I sympathise with the owner as obviously he didn?t invite them there, but that is an option available to all planning authorities throughout the country.?
    The travellers had yesterday put up metal panelling and fencing around the site and posted a notice on the gate which read: ?We live in this property. It is our home and we intend to stay here.?
    Another sign read: ?Well nice dogs 4 sale. ?150.?
    They later held a huge party with loud music and drinking.
    One woman said: ?We won?t be moving. Where are we supposed to go? We have children enrolled in schools around here, and there is a lady in remission from cancer on the site. Now is not the time to move on.?


    My opinion, can we not name ad shame with photo the council member who actually issued the order to Mr Cleave. Can we not extend the Watchdog program to include situations like this and combine it with a public vote. Maybe this way we will finally get things sorted.

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  • chroma
    V.I.P. Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 1976

    #2
    set up a gun range bearing down on them, serve them notice to GTFO your land.
    Invite locals for some free target practice to the new range.
    Not your fault if stray ammo finds its way into the camp.
    He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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    • super jumbe
      V.I.P. Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 11610

      #3
      What I can not understand this farmer is the victim of taken over his land by force and he tried every means legally to remove all travellers from his farm when our Govt not succeeded, he is now been told to pay the fine of ?20,000 for some thing he is the victim of the crime, can some one tell me were is the law protecting the land owners, he could end up in prison also, were is justice.

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      • reddevil157
        DK Veteran
        • Jan 2010
        • 1427

        #4
        Originally posted by chroma
        set up a gun range bearing down on them, serve them notice to GTFO your land.
        Invite locals for some free target practice to the new range.
        Not your fault if stray ammo finds its way into the camp.
        Call in the professional Russian
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        • Meat-Head
          V.I.P. Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 32000

          #5
          get jcb, and dig a MASSIVE trench round the lot, so they are stuck there.

          and/or use said jcb to download some boluders to trapp them in, and get done for kid napp

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          • Bulld0g
            V.I.P. Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 7158

            #6
            What a surprise, something like that happening in this country, i'm shocked

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            • super jumbe
              V.I.P. Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 11610

              #7
              I would tell the council to wait and see the next drama, get few rabbits and tell them to dig holes just enough to bury the traveller?s in the vicinity, as long as the council are not able to see them and job done.
              If I got a letter from council to clear them I would suggest they have given you the licence to get rid of them in two stages, a nuclear bomb or just 1945 loaded cannon.

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              • tubs
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                • Jan 2009
                • 420

                #8
                Just shot them sorted

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                • Evastar
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                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1220

                  #9
                  burn the fields around their camp and then have slurry pumped onto them, they'll move on quick enough

                  of course there's probably some law against burning fields and using slurry as fertiliser these days

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                  • cactikid
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 12017

                    #10
                    seen that done before,tons and tons of fresh manure dumped beside caravans,what a smell of fresh roses

                    hmm what about foot and mouth epidemic,hire a few people with full protective clothing to put up a quarantine notice and start spraying and burning a few things to make it look convincing
                    Last edited by cactikid; 7 May, 2011, 21:55.

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