Runaway dads should be shamed like drink-drivers, says David Cameron

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  • super jumbe
    V.I.P. Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 11610

    #1

    Runaway dads should be shamed like drink-drivers, says David Cameron



    David Cameron says it 'simply isn't acceptable' for mothers to be left to bring up children on their own.

    Fathers who abandon their families should be "stigmatised" by society in the same way as drink-drivers, David Cameron has said.

    Before the election, Nick Clegg described Tory proposals to introduce a tax cut of at least ?150 for married couples as "patronising drivel that belong in the Edwardian age".

    Even when parents were separated, he said, fathers had a duty to support their children "financially and emotionally" ? spending time with them at weekends, attending nativity plays and taking an interest in their education.



    Come to think about it he may have a point.

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  • jcgrumbles
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    • Nov 2010
    • 944

    #2
    I think governments that give away loads of our hard earned cash to other countries, and are incapable of even locking up all our thieves,rapists and paedophiles,and who seem totally powerless against the illegal immigrants and who treat anyone else who isnt a member of parliament with utter contempt should be `shamed` as well..you self serving pigs at the trough,lift your greedy snouts up and do your jobs...kick out the undesirables and lock down our borders,hang the molesters and create some work,even if we only build prisons for gods sake.TOSSPOTS the lot of you...

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    • lfc4life
      Sports Nutter
      • Dec 2008
      • 3200

      #3
      Originally posted by jcgrumbles
      I think governments that give away loads of our hard earned cash to other countries, and are incapable of even locking up all our thieves,rapists and paedophiles,and who seem totally powerless against the illegal immigrants and who treat anyone else who isnt a member of parliament with utter contempt should be `shamed` as well..you self serving pigs at the trough,lift your greedy snouts up and do your jobs...kick out the undesirables and lock down our borders,hang the molesters and create some work,even if we only build prisons for gods sake.TOSSPOTS the lot of you...
      i couldn't agree with you more
      IM SORRY but i will never have any sympathy for maggie thatcher .... the bitch

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      • jcgrumbles
        DK Veteran
        • Nov 2010
        • 944

        #4
        Lets go and buy some pitchforks lfc and we`ll sort the tw*ts out..

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        • Snowy79
          DK Veteran
          • Jan 2011
          • 1347

          #5
          Anyone with outstanding fines or refusing to pay their dues should lose all rights to a Passport to start with. If they can't pay their fines they shouldn't be able to affprd an oversees holiday so won't have a need for a Passport anyway.

          If they still refuse to pay up deny them a driving licence and if caught behing the wheel oif a vehicle it should be impounded and sold to pay off the fines.

          Third offence they should be unable to get a landline, TV licence or Satellite service.

          Take their privilages away from them and they'll soon pay up.

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          • thewizardofodds
            DK Veteran
            • Nov 2008
            • 924

            #6
            So should women that do everything in their power to stop fathers seeing their kids

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            • bonus2010
              V.I.P. Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 1962

              #7
              Remember listening to a conversation on radio, where a member of the 'fathers for justice' group was explaining how difficult it was for fathers to get access to see their children.. Even when fathers win a court order, at tremendous financial cost.. the authorities still wouldn't prosecute mothers who refused to give access..despite the court order. Their excuse being "it wouldn't be in the interests of the child, if we lock up the mothers"

              Should these mothers be named and shamed in the same way Cameron suggests fathers should?

              I would say no to this, Hey, there is family problems that deserve a solution here, but the one the torys are suggesting, is not the answer... It just highlights their own ignorant and arrogant attitude when it is suggested that one parent...the man, should be compared to a drunk driver..

              If the government was interested in helping... then we need to know why Britain has one of the highest lone parent numbers in Europe.. and do more to prevent family break ups where children are involved in the first place.

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              • cgscott
                V.I.P. Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 3513

                #8
                High % of girls out there that get pregnant dont give a ~~~~ what strain of DNA it come from. All they want is a baby. Half the time its a 1 night stand.

                Dont think its right blaming the fathers for running away.

                I will say it again.

                Societys ~~~~ed.
                The countrys ~~~~ed.
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                • wortho
                  Top Poster
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 144

                  #9
                  might be worth looking at why dads are left holding the debts while the wife gets the kids/ house ect no matter whats she has done, before he gets on his high horse about run away dads.
                  More pc crap the we come to expect from the elite shower that are everwere in uk politics these days.

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                  • Lainie
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 3062

                    #10
                    well any man that has unprotected sex can only blame 1 person - HIMSELF. dont be a ***** - cover your dick.

                    stop child tax credits and then the number of births will fall. income support has already been phased out thank ~~~~ and believe me there are plenty raging about that which i find quite funny .

                    if a father can prove the child is his (the dna test should not cost anything) then he should have the right to be involved in the childs life unless the mother can prove otherwise.
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                    • cgscott
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                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3513

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Lainie
                      well any man that has unprotected sex can only blame 1 person - HIMSELF. dont be a ***** - cover your dick.

                      stop child tax credits and then the number of births will fall. income support has already been phased out thank ~~~~ and believe me there are plenty raging about that which i find quite funny .

                      if a father can prove the child is his (the dna test should not cost anything) then he should have the right to be involved in the child's life unless the mother can prove otherwise.
                      True lainie. I remember a long time ago i said to a lass " will i wear a jonny" she said "no im on the pill".

                      I now have a child that doesn't know his father and she don't care to tell him either.

                      The choice shouldnt be left down to the man only. Women who dont want to get pregnant wont. The ones that do will. Most likely on a friday/saturday night.


                      PS Let goverment make it that under 21 girls if they get pregnant without wedlock then they wont get money or a house till 21. Lets see how many mothers let they're children get pregnant then.

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                      Last edited by cgscott; 21 June, 2011, 00:00.
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                      • Canker_Canison
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 3905

                        #12
                        Originally posted by cgscott
                        PS Let goverment make it that under 21 girls if they get pregnant without wedlock then they wont get money or a house till 21. Lets see how many mothers let they're children get pregnant then.

                        Societys ~~~~ed.
                        The countrys ~~~~ed.

                        Interesting proposition.

                        I have a daughter I've never seen. I'd been with her mother for about 2-3 months. All the warning signs were there.. she wanted a kid before she was 30 (27 at the time) & she always saw herself as being single for the rest of her life.
                        Low & behold she fell pregnant & less than a month later dumped me & cut all communication.

                        I've left it as it is, time will resolve all. Just stuck with child support.

                        Does that make me the bad guy under Cameroons comments?
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                        • thewizardofodds
                          DK Veteran
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 924

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Snowy79
                          Anyone with outstanding fines or refusing to pay their dues should lose all rights to a Passport to start with. If they can't pay their fines they shouldn't be able to affprd an oversees holiday so won't have a need for a Passport anyway.

                          If they still refuse to pay up deny them a driving licence and if caught behing the wheel oif a vehicle it should be impounded and sold to pay off the fines.

                          Third offence they should be unable to get a landline, TV licence or Satellite service.

                          Take their privilages away from them and they'll soon pay up.
                          most people that dont pay fines , dont have passport, dont have driving licence, dont have landline and dont have sat services(prob got a KV tho )
                          They dont pay for ANTHING , maybe get a landline on til it gets cut off , same with cable , sat etc.Drive without having a licence etc
                          Your idea just wont work

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                          • Snowy79
                            DK Veteran
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1347

                            #14
                            I agree there are some oxygen thieves out there that don't pay for anything so don't give them anything. If they receive a fine take it direct from their wages or Giro. None of this ?2 per week crud. Take the lot in as few payments as possible. Take away any human rights they have incase they decide to steal to get by. If they get caught and assaulted they've gave up their rights to the protection of the law.

                            Originally posted by thewizardofodds
                            most people that dont pay fines , dont have passport, dont have driving licence, dont have landline and dont have sat services(prob got a KV tho )
                            They dont pay for ANTHING , maybe get a landline on til it gets cut off , same with cable , sat etc.Drive without having a licence etc
                            Your idea just wont work

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                            • thewizardofodds
                              DK Veteran
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 924

                              #15
                              Anyway the plan wont work as a high majority of the runaway dads will be black so it will be deamed as a racist policy

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