Runaway dads should be shamed like drink-drivers, says David Cameron

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  • Lainie
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    • Mar 2008
    • 3062

    #16
    Originally posted by thewizardofodds
    Anyway the plan wont work as a high majority of the runaway dads will be black so it will be deamed as a racist policy
    that is just not true. at least 90% of single mothers are white british.
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    • thewizardofodds
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      • Nov 2008
      • 924

      #17
      Originally posted by Lainie
      that is just not true. at least 90% of single mothers are white british.
      I'm talking about the fathers,

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      • dctyper
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        • Jun 2008
        • 2539

        #18
        what about runaway mums!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

        im a single dad


        sexist pigs

        dc
        Wavefield Ds 55cm at 13E 19E and 28E receiving everything out there on 2 dm800hd

        previous life dm800hd and 500c on cable screw you nag3


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        • johnboy1974
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          • Dec 2008
          • 3418

          #19
          Polititions are pompous two faced twats that know ~~~~ all about living in the real world, In fact all they really know about is how to feather their own nests and scam their expenses.

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          • Lainie
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            • Mar 2008
            • 3062

            #20
            yes and 90% of runaway dads are white british.

            its more financially viable to be a single mum and thats why they do it, however if more men took contraception control it wouldnt happen. unless of course its mary!!
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            • thewizardofodds
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              • Nov 2008
              • 924

              #21
              Originally posted by Lainie
              yes and 90% of runaway dads are white british.

              its more financially viable to be a single mum and thats why they do it, however if more men took contraception control it wouldnt happen. unless of course its mary!!
              ut what percentage of black fathers are runaay fathers?
              Do yo actually have statistics or do you just quote 90% for everything
              Also what percent of your 90% of single parents are divorced, widowed , seperated etc
              Last edited by thewizardofodds; 21 June, 2011, 20:33.

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              • bonus2010
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                • Mar 2010
                • 1962

                #22
                I think a lot of the time the government don't know what is going on.... Again, remember a documentary shown on TV, years and years ago... during another time, under John Major's government, when they were going to do something... about the escalating numbers of lone parents... emmm.. It was reported that DWP statistics stated ...70% of lone parent claimants... don't declare who the father of their child is..

                Maybe the government is under the impression that we have high numbers of fathers who abandon their children, but could it be more accurate to say... that high numbers of lone mothers don't know who the fathers of their children are... or can't remember..?

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                • thewizardofodds
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                  • Nov 2008
                  • 924

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Lainie
                  yes and 90% of runaway dads are white british.

                  its more financially viable to be a single mum and thats why they do it, however if more men took contraception control it wouldnt happen. unless of course its mary!!

                  some stats from http://www.statistics.gov.uk/article...ifferences.pdf

                  proportion of women by life stage and ethnic group 1992- 1995 and 2000 to 2003 percent

                  1992-95 no partner with children

                  white 6
                  black caribbean 21
                  black african 21
                  black other 24
                  indian 2
                  pakistan 5
                  bangladesh 5
                  chinese 2
                  other 8

                  2000 - 2002 no partner with children

                  white 7
                  black caribbean 24
                  black african 23
                  black other 34
                  indian 2
                  pakistan 7
                  bangladesh 8
                  chinese 3
                  other 10

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                  • reddevil157
                    DK Veteran
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1427

                    #24
                    Originally posted by dctyper
                    what about runaway mums!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

                    im a single dad


                    sexist pigs

                    dc
                    Plenty more out there just like ya m8, course... we only ever hear about the women
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                    • Lainie
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 3062

                      #25
                      no idea where they get those stats from but im only going on the average figures of benefit claimants. and yes most of them dont want the fathers around so they can get more benefit etc. i do feel really sorry for some dads who would love access to their kids but arent allowed by the mums and legally they are not entitled too access.

                      some of the stats quoted are 10 to 20 years old.
                      Last edited by Lainie; 23 June, 2011, 07:52. Reason: spelling
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                      • bonus2010
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                        • Mar 2010
                        • 1962

                        #26
                        C'mon folks... let's not make this a race issue.. We've got some serious family issues in Britian relating to break ups, which of course affect children. My opinion is... much of which is related to benefits and in particular the way these benefits are distributed.............. Look at it this way... did these problems of abandonment exist 40/50 years ago?

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                        • thewizardofodds
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                          • Nov 2008
                          • 924

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Lainie
                          no idea where they get those stats from but im only going on the average figures of benefit claimants. any yes most of them dont want the fathers around so they can get more benefit etc. i do feel really sorry for some dads who would love access to their kids but arent allowed by the mums and legally they are not entitled too access.

                          some of the stats quoted are 10 to 20 years old.
                          Those stats were just after a 2 second google.
                          Perhaps you can show me your stats thats all I'm saying , you quote 90% this and 90% that but its just a number you are quoted off the tip of your tongue mate unless you can show me those stats.
                          Where do those stats from? the census so I suppose we will find out early next year the latest stats when this years census figures are published
                          If you have a look at official stats you will see that over 50% of lone parents acually WORK .
                          Keep reading the daily mail mate

                          @bonus2010 its not a race thing just ponting out that if those plans were put into action there would be a large proportion of the black male community being named and shamed. If you look at the figures above you will see that lone parents from black backgrounds are up to 7 times higher than white.

                          The number of blaggers on the sick are mUCH MUCH higher than the number of BABIES FOR BENEFITS women in this country and they get a hell of a lot more money than any lone parents what with DLA etc
                          Last edited by thewizardofodds; 22 June, 2011, 03:12.

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                          • dctyper
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                            • Jun 2008
                            • 2539

                            #28
                            i hate blaggers!!! i have my 4 year old son with me, im by myself. i work frigging hard to pay for us both. i dont ask for any money from the goverment or his mum. makes me feel proud when i go to bed at night

                            makes me sick seeing these ~~~~ers out there doing bugger all, get a life

                            dc
                            Wavefield Ds 55cm at 13E 19E and 28E receiving everything out there on 2 dm800hd

                            previous life dm800hd and 500c on cable screw you nag3


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                            • bobwill
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                              • May 2009
                              • 525

                              #29
                              Originally posted by bonus2010
                              C'mon folks... let's not make this a race issue.. We've got some serious family issues in Britian relating to break ups, which of course affect children. My opinion is... much of which is related to benefits and in particular the way these benefits are distributed.............. Look at it this way... did these problems of abandonment exist 40/50 years ago?
                              I can remember the late 1950s and sixtys well then if a single girl had a child and her parents where not prepared to look after the child or she could afford to keep it herself it had to be adopted and she had no say in it. If a couple with children where made homeless there children were put into care untill the parents found somewhere to live. This all changed after a television drama called Cathy come home about a couple who lost there home and where fighting social services to keep there kids , I can still remember that drama today
                              Cathy Come Home - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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                              • bonus2010
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                                • Mar 2010
                                • 1962

                                #30
                                Never watched the film, but of course heard of it... The film highlighted serious problems affecting parents at that time, like unemployment and homelessness.

                                I didn't live through this period,(born late late 60's..) but can only go on by what my own parents described, and it concurs with what you've said.. There wasn't very many lone parents in these days, and if a couple had children,,, they had to work very hard to raise income to keep the family. It wasn't the case like nowadays.. the more children you have the more benefits you receive (like a wage rise)

                                Hey, my opinion is probably an old fashioned one... in being, that I thought it was the parents job to provide income for their family.. That's obviously changed... it's now the state's responsibility.

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