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  • gmb45
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    • Nov 2008
    • 7538

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    ?1,000 bank shares for everyone:

    Clegg urges Treasury to hand taxpayers sell-off windfall

    Every adult in Britain could be handed free bank shares worth ?1,000 when nationalised institutions are sold off.

    Under the unprecedented give-away, the Government would hand over its stakes in Royal Bank of Scotland and Lloyds Banking Group to 46million voters.

    The introduction of a ?People?s Banking System? would be the biggest distribution of shares since Margaret Thatcher sold off Britain?s nationalised industries in the 1980s.

    Nick Clegg is currently in Rio de Janeiro where he visited a slum in the Prazeres district of the city

    Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg has written to the Treasury asking them to look at the proposal ? which is also being backed by senior Conservatives.

    Championing the move, Mr Clegg yesterday said it was right the public should enjoy the benefits of potential windfall profits when the banks are sold off.

    He said during a trade mission to Brazil the ?imaginative and innovative? scheme would give the public a personal stake in the reprivatised banks.

    The taxpayer owns 84 per cent of RBS and 43 per cent of Lloyds after pumping ?67billion into the lenders during the banking crisis of 2008.

    As of yesterday?s closing prices, the value of the taxpayer?s investment was down by around ?11.9billion. Lloyds closed at 47p a share and RBS at 38.65p.

    Under the plan, each UK citizen could receive about 1,450 shares in RBS and 440 in Lloyds ? worth up to ?1,000 at current market prices ? which would be deposited in individual trading accounts.

    Each person in the UK could receive 440 shares in Lloyds TSB and 1,450 in RBS

    A ?floor price? for the free shares would be set. This is likely to be in the region of 74p for Lloyds stock and 51p for RBS stock ? the level at which the government bail-out money was injected.

    Individuals would only keep any gains made above that floor price.

    Put simply, if the shares rose in value to ?1,500 and they decided to cash in, each taxpayer would make a ?500 profit after ?1,000 goes back to the Treasury.

    David Cameron has previously said he supports the idea of ?widening share ownership? and has promised to ?look carefully? at the scheme.

    Before last year?s general election, George Osborne floated the idea of selling off shares at a discounted price.
    George Osborne said the 'people's bonus' plan would boost share ownership

    The Chancellor said the ?people?s bonus? plan would boost share ownership and give taxpayers the chance to make a return on their forced investment in the banks.

    At the time, the idea was knocked down by the Liberal Democrats.

    The Government has said it aims to return the banks to private ownership but has not set out how it will do so, or when.

    Most analysts had assumed it will sell its shares on the open market or to institutional investors such as sovereign wealth funds.

    Mr Osborne has been privately banking on a windfall from the bank sell-off to fund vote-winning tax cuts in the run up to the 2015 general election.

    But Mr Clegg said: ?You are giving the Treasury an assurance that they will break even, but you are not giving the Treasury the freedom to grab the windfall.

    ?Psychologically, it is immensely important that the British public feel they have not just been overlooked and ignored.

    ?Their money has been used to the tune of billions and billions and billions to keep the British banking system on a life support system.?

    Both banks are trading well below the Government?s break-even price and any sell-off is likely to be some time away.

    Critics are likely to point out that the scheme will be costly to administer and too complex for ordinary people to understand.

    Mr Clegg?s decision to publicly push the idea of distributing shares to voters is his latest attempt to regain authority on the Coalition Government.

    Bright idea that could go so wrong

    Payback: Every adult could make money on shares, but will it work?

    The idea of returning the bail-out cash for Royal Bank of Scotland and Lloyds Banking Group directly to taxpayers will no doubt have tremendous populist appeal.

    But it is unlikely to please the Chancellor George Osborne and could meet fierce resistance in the City of London.

    The biggest problem for the Chancellor is that he had been counting on the proceeds of a City flotation of the shares to help reduce Britain?s borrowing needs and perhaps create a ?windfall? which could be used to cut taxes ahead of the next election.

    Under the proposed plan there would be far less certainty as to when the Government might collect its share of the proceeds.

    Perhaps even more significantly for Whitehall ? which has such huge problems with its computer systems ? it could be an administrative nightmare.

    Opening and managing share accounts for more than 46million would not only be expensive ? it could go horribly wrong.

    It might also mean that foreign residents working here at present ? nine out of ten new jobs are estimated to have gone to non-British nationals ? would benefit from a windfall when they may not even have been in the country in the autumn of 2008 when the banks were recapitalised.

    The biggest objection would almost certainly come from the Square Mile. If the Government runs the process, City firms could be deprived of fees which could total as much as ?1billion.

    More importantly it would create banks with an uncertain hybrid ownership. Instead of governance resting with the large investment institutions such as pensions funds and insurers, it would largely remain with the Government.

    The big institutions which contributed to big ?recapitalisation? issues of bank shares in the run up and immediately after the crisis would almost certainly feel they had been circumvented and might seek a legal challenge.

    However disapproving one may be of the banks, the ?populist? route to distributing shares to all would mean the dead hand of Whitehall would remain on their shoulders.

    It is only by cutting the banks loose ? with better regulation ? that one could expect them to fully return to the markets and propel business and enterprise forward.
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  • Shady
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    • Dec 2010
    • 6404

    #2
    too many words... too early to read it all... am I having some money?
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    1: What the fff is all that about??? All that crap below your reply I mean, get a life mate
    2: no info on google abt the pace sv5 rang asda they have no idea what i was talking about,
    3: Your total contribution to this forum, bordering on trolling, seems to have been a collection of snipes, one liners & asterisked expletives





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    • Lainie
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      • Mar 2008
      • 3062

      #3
      ditto to the above
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      • gmb45
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        • Nov 2008
        • 7538

        #4
        read it l8r then coonts ya might be in for a grand lainie
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        • Meat-Head
          V.I.P. Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 32000

          #5
          Originally posted by gmb45
          Clegg urges Treasury to hand taxpayers sell-off windfall

          Every adult in Britain could be handed free bank shares worth ?1,000 when nationalised institutions are sold off.

          Nick Clegg is currently in Rio de Janeiro where he visited a slum in the Prazeres district of the city

          es | Mail Online

          SUMMARY:-

          (GMB45 - please edit if wrong or incorrect)

          ?1000 to everybody, including fat umemployed people, who need shooting

          Prime Minisetr is away looking at slums, no water, no electricity, gas or internet, no petrol stations for miles, and using thiss info to fool the English public were are getting a good deal, whilst handing our hard earned cash to them to come over and ioopen up kebab shops.

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          • Lainie
            V.I.P. Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 3062

            #6
            a grand would do me just lovely at the moment.

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            • cgscott
              V.I.P. Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 3513

              #7
              Wont actually see the ?1000. But if shares go up then you will receive any profits. Dont be fooled by this one.
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              • Canker_Canison
                V.I.P. Member
                • May 2010
                • 3905

                #8
                They give you shares that cost say 60p each. When you sell them they want their 60p per share back.

                Just because someones unemployed doesn't mean they are on the electoral register. Most career claimers have never registered, so won't get anything.


                If the shares cost 60p each & you are given ?1000 worth of shares & you sit on them till the price reaches ?1 per share.
                When you sell them, the ?1000 becomes ?666 before tax.
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                • kianniamh
                  Top Poster
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 182

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Canker_Canison

                  If the shares cost 60p each & you are given ?1000 worth of shares & you sit on them till the price reaches ?1 per share.
                  When you sell them, the ?1000 becomes ?666 before tax.
                  Capital gains exemption currently ?10,600 would cover you for any tax, but it's pie in the sky like everything else that comes out of their mouths (where's my ?150 married tax allowance they promised over a year ago?)

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                  • super jumbe
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                    • Dec 2008
                    • 11610

                    #10
                    If I am on that list I will give it away to dk???..

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                    • Shady
                      Shite Link King
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 6404

                      #11
                      my nicknames dk ill take cash cheers
                      Fave replies from various threads

                      1: What the fff is all that about??? All that crap below your reply I mean, get a life mate
                      2: no info on google abt the pace sv5 rang asda they have no idea what i was talking about,
                      3: Your total contribution to this forum, bordering on trolling, seems to have been a collection of snipes, one liners & asterisked expletives





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                      • southpaw
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 2233

                        #12
                        How about the ~~~~ers use the windfall to un privatise the energy companies. Buy the twats out who are creaming millions and still pumping prices up, whilst the little old dear next door but 2 shivvers this winter.
                        ****ers the lot of em. Self preservation, that's all they care about!!!!!!

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                        • cablefreejunkie
                          DK Veteran
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 1717

                          #13
                          Originally posted by southpaw
                          How about the ~~~~ers use the windfall to un privatise the energy companies. Buy the twats out who are creaming millions and still pumping prices up, whilst the little old dear next door but 2 shivvers this winter.
                          ****ers the lot of em. Self preservation, that's all they care about!!!!!!
                          you can thank thatcher for that
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                          • alboke
                            Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 58

                            #14
                            dont get your hopes UP
                            remember north sea gas was going to make us
                            the richest country in the world AND WE WAS GOING TO GET A HAND OUT it never happened they sold it all off
                            no doubt they got shares nudge nudge wink wink

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                            • thisisit
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                              • Jun 2011
                              • 1

                              #15
                              Northerncrook........

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