UK riots: magistrates told 'ignore the rule book' and lock up looters

[tshirtman]

back on topic.
these kind of policies are unfair and unjust,
think of this,
if some random nutter comes along, robs my house then sets fire to it, then,
a mob comes along, robs and burns my neighbours house , the law says that is a worst crime than committed against me.
I would be just as traumatized as my neighbour but he would get more justice and help than me,
how can that be just and fair.

[garry1312]

exactly theres no difference really its still one or more people commiting the same crimes and causing the same damage and trauma.

[cablefreejunkie]

Yes you can blame the torys,
this goes back to thatcher, it was her who declared there is no such thing as community,
she decimated manafacturing, taking thousands of jobs from the working classes
It is the torys who taught people, greed is good and ~~~~ the rest
and it is the current torys who want to get rid of 16.000 coppers, thats being really tough on crime
these kids and there parents are thatchers offspring, not labours.

well said
this nation has been in steady decline since the shedevil was in charge,,people seem to forget all about that scumbag,,she sowed the seeds of what we all saw last week,theres no getting away from that

[thered]

6 months for stealing a bottle of water and MPs allowed to pay ?16000 expense fiddles back and then carry on as if nothing happened, and Judges ignoring the rule of law ACT, it?s diabolical.

So what leason our children?s going to learn?

i agree Mp's expense ect are a scandal its fiddling and in any job would be classed as gross misconduct and you would be fired


but 2 wrongs do not make a right you cannot go and steal because someone else did

[thered]

Yes you can blame the torys,
this goes back to thatcher, it was her who declared there is no such thing as community,
she decimated manafacturing, taking thousands of jobs from the working classes
It is the torys who taught people, greed is good and ~~~~ the rest
and it is the current torys who want to get rid of 16.000 coppers, thats being really tough on crime
these kids and there parents are thatchers offspring, not labours.

have a word with yourselves its alright blaming thatcher or labour or whoever but everybody does that so blindly nobody actually thinks why and what each party does

the reason tory were in and thatcher was in power was because the labour government of the 70's was a shambles the country was in ruins

yes you can blame thatcher for things like miners or whatver but ask yourself this

if thatcher was wrong doing that why didnt labour open them all back up then??

why didnt they take back the utilities and the trains and buses after they were privatised

why did labour continue to give council work to private firms


you all need to wake up a bit and realise all government is the same and goes around in cycles one government comes in makes some unpopular decisions while the other calls them for doing so and ridicules them

then when they get in power do nothing to reverse these decisions made by the previous government they were all going mad about in the first place


politics is all huff and puff and no matter what party is in very little really changes

[garry1312]

Guess you are right one is as bad as the next. They all make bad decisions, they all suggest that the other party is in the wrong but when they have the chance to change it they dont.

All the parties are a joke but in all honesty i would rather have labour in power than the torys as I said they are going about getting this country back on track financially totally wrong. Do I think labour could do a better job? I really dont know but I think anyone could do a damn better job than the tory's.

The Tory's need to stop this 'take, take, take' approach and start giving by making more jobs. There wanting to stick tax up again apparently, its the general public that take the hit not them, tax goes up can you see it effecting David Cameron ofcourse not. They are not in touch with the public nor do they want to be.

[super jumbe]

Originally Posted by thered
but 2 wrongs do not make a right you cannot go and steal because someone else did




These are old words our parents said in old days, this is 21st century you haven?t seen any thing yet.

Do you think putting them behind bars will stop any more looting in future, every next demonstration over the last 20years are getting worse and the solution remains in the Govt and not with the community.

This is a wake up call!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

[Liteace]

Here we go, ~~~~~ing human rights activists poping up now

"human rights activists in Britain have expressed concern that the punishments may be reactionary and serve only to clog up the court system with appeals for years to come"

Im sure they wouldnt be saying that if it was there house that got burnt to the ground


Brits get 4 years prison for Facebook riot posts - CBS News

[thered]

Guess you are right one is as bad as the next. They all make bad decisions, they all suggest that the other party is in the wrong but when they have the chance to change it they dont.

All the parties are a joke but in all honesty i would rather have labour in power than the torys as I said they are going about getting this country back on track financially totally wrong. Do I think labour could do a better job? I really dont know but I think anyone could do a damn better job than the tory's.

The Tory's need to stop this 'take, take, take' approach and start giving by making more jobs. There wanting to stick tax up again apparently, its the general public that take the hit not them, tax goes up can you see it effecting David Cameron ofcourse not. They are not in touch with the public nor do they want to be.

to be honest its not a simple job but its basic economics

we moan not enough nurses we moan not enough police we moan about councils cutting spending and community centres

yet we moan about too much tax

do you see what i mean?

we all moan about everything but what can you do about it ??

we are massively overbudget and people just think that everything is black and white we need more of this and that as if it can be done with a magic wand

it all comes back too money and we simply dont make enough to sustain the police the army the councils and every other thing we all pay for

if you can imagine your weekly wage

we will say ?400 for an example with no deductions

would everybody be so keen about extra police or council workers if they were paying these people direct instead of indirectly if you could decide where it was spent


would you be willing to pay a policeman ?50 of it in case you needed him even though you have never used them in your life ???

would you be willing to pay a hospital ?50 of it in case you needed them but your young and healthy ??

would you be willing to pay your bin man ?20 ??

the street cleaner ?15 ??

?10 subsidy to a bus service 1 old lady uses

A fireman ?40 just in case you had a fire even though they are very rare ??

?20 a week for the kids to have a youth club even though you have no kids ??

?40 a week to run a school your kids left 10 years ago??

?30 towards a new aircraft carrier just in case???

?50 a week for the 2 pensioners who live next door who you detest ??

chances are thet out of your ?400 you decided to keep most or all of it yourself and thought ~~~~ it why should i spend money on 5hite i dont need

Yet these are same people who moan about cuts to councils and police ect ect

hypocrisy all of it

[weirpig]

Come on the Labour massive



down with tories


Maggie ruined us and if you aint been through it dont comment cos you dont know what your talking about.....period

[tshirtman]

Here we go, ~~~~~ing human rights activists poping up now

"human rights activists in Britain have expressed concern that the punishments may be reactionary and serve only to clog up the court system with appeals for years to come"

Im sure they wouldnt be saying that if it was there house that got burnt to the ground


Brits get 4 years prison for Facebook riot posts - CBS News

this has nothing to do with human rights, it is about a fair justice system,
if some smackhead goes into primark and nicks ?20 of stock, and gets caught, he would get a suspended sentence,
if a looter nicks 6 cans of beer worth ?5, he gets 6 months in prison, this is creating a two tier justice system,
I'm not against tough law, but it has to be the same for everyone, the looter and the smackhead should get treated the same

[thered]

Come on the Labour massive



down with tories


Maggie ruined us and if you aint been through it dont comment cos you dont know what your talking about.....period

enlighten me ?

[thered]

this has nothing to do with human rights, it is about a fair justice system,
if some smackhead goes into primark and nicks ?20 of stock, and gets caught, he would get a suspended sentence,
if a looter nicks 6 cans of beer worth ?5, he gets 6 months in prison, this is creating a two tier justice system,
I'm not against tough law, but it has to be the same for everyone, the looter and the smackhead should get treated the same

they are not the same tell the looter to shoplift 6 cans of beer then for a lighter sentence

looting is a bit different to shoplifting in a sense that they normally smash the shop open and take everything in sight they also use diversionary tactics like starting fires or throwing bricks

it is hardly the same as sticking a jumper up your top and walking out of a shop quietly trying not to get caught

[garry1312]

Come on the Labour massive



down with tories


Maggie ruined us and if you aint been through it dont comment cos you dont know what your talking about.....period

Didnt mean to click 'Thanks' there.

It doesnt matter if someone has been through it or not everyone is entitled to there own opinions and there own views and opinions in politics. As for Maggie the younger generation have heard from parents and granparents the damage she done to the country or the damage she didnt do to the country depending on what side of the fence your on.

Also decisions she made has effect on the present and the future so get over yourself thinking you have a right to tell people not to comment!

[Meat-Head]

stick the queen in charge..

Intreasting view of yours.

Rumor going around that states that the Inglish royal family are infact GERMAN. - Another uncorfirmed rumor suggests it was these bastards that upload the Xmas tree and all the crap with it to Ingland.

Anyway, intreasting the fact your avatiar has some German bloke with a swasticker on it. Something that sometimes gets scratched under carpets and behind door panels!

OFF TOPIC:-

Adlof Hitler was a brilliant guy, with his gas chamber, just a shame he sent the wrong people to 'use it'