Contact Local MP for referendum..

[TheCoder]

....This could ruin his chances hopefully..

The thing is it really doesn't matter who rules - the leadership of the three main parties are unanimous that there wont be a referendum on the EU. There would have to be a very substantial shift in the next election to one of the minority parties and thats exceedingly unlikely.

[Kalipo]

The thing is it really doesn't matter who rules - the leadership of the three main parties are unanimous that there wont be a referendum on the EU. There would have to be a very substantial shift in the next election to one of the minority parties and thats exceedingly unlikely.

True story again, but. The way i see it.. is If people contact their local MP asking for a referendum.. from which they ignore it will be them who loses their jobs.. not us.. it's in there interest to acknowledge the people in this so called democracy..

Also agree with you on the shift.. but Libdems could and i suspect they will fall into 4th place in the party rankings.. with UKIP one of the 3 main parties.. if that happens.. UKIP WILL get more coverage and then the party in power will HAVE to wake up.. It may take a few years but it could happen.

[ruudvandan]

Alex salmond is starting his push for a referendum.. this seems to tie in with what the UK is doing atm..

If we - Great Britain - leave the European Union, then it will destroy the SNP's chances of having a separate Scotland: after the UK leaves the EU, everyone will know why we did so as the facts will be - oddly, but it's how things work - brought to light in everyone's eyes after we leave; and if Scotland wins independence, Salmond would want to rejoin the EU and take on the Euro (he said he wants to). The Scottish people would know the reasons Westminster left the EU and thus not want Scotland to be part of it.

BBC News - Alex Salmond opens SNP's annual conference

So Alex Salmond wants to separate from the Union (i.e. United Kingdom) only to still be in union with the rest of the UK as part of the EU? What's the point?
I'm not Scottish and I don't care whether or not Scotland goes independent or not, that's up to the Scots to decide as far as I'm concerned, but if I was Scottish, there is no way I'd want to be independent from the rest of the UK and there's no way I would vote for this man. If I was a Scot I'd rather have my interests represented as part of the UK i.e. a large powerful nation within the EU, rather than as a minnow, especially given Scotland's fishing industry and all of the meddling the EU does in that. Salmond's plans for economic growth seem to be based on is the North-Sea oil revenues, an accident of geography rather than any actual on-shore sustainable industry. First of all look at the stability of countries whose economies are based on oil, secondly what when the oil runs out in 40 years? He'll be dead by then of course so he won't care.

[Kalipo]

I got a reply back from the house of commons.. basically it states without Europe we wont be able to trade.. .. wtf.. i've never heard so much tripe.. like i've said before.. bmw wont stop selling us there cars...

Before we know it we'l be saying heil.. get the **** out Britain come on..

[ruudvandan]

it makes me wonder how the rest of the world manages to trade? They're not in Europe either

[racin-snake]

Dear MR

Thank you for your letter about a proposed referendum on Britain?s membership of the European Union.

Britain currently faces tough economic challenges, with high inflation, rising unemployment and stagnant growth.

Indeed, in the last nine months the UK economy has not grown at all. Over the last year only Japan has grown more slowly in the G7 and only Greece, Portugal, Denmark and Hungary have grown more slowly in the EU. One in five young people are out of work and there are now more women unemployed than any time since 1988.

It is in that context that we make judgements about Britain?s membership of the European Union. Labour is not opposed to having referenda on European questions when a Government seeks to make a major change to Britain?s relationship with the European Union. For example, it was a Labour Government in 1975 that held instituted a referendum on Britain?s membership of the European Union and Labour believes that if any future government wanted to try and take Britain into the euro, they would need to win the British people?s backing in a referendum.

But it is Labour?s assessment, shared by the leaders of all the main parties in the UK, that it is in Britain?s interest to remain members of the European Union.

Membership of the European Union is vital to Britain?s growth and prosperity:



3.5 million UK jobs are linked directly or indirectly to UK trade with the rest of the European Union according to official analysis
European markets account for half of the UK?s overall exports of goods and services
Eight out of the UK?s ten main export markets are in the European Union


We did not seek a mandate for this referendum at the last election and we do not wish to leave the European Union now.

We do not believe the case for this referendum has been made and believe it would create uncertainty that could put at risk investment in the UK.

Labour?s position is that Britain should be focussed on jobs and growth, not cutting ourselves off from major export markets that British jobs depend on. It is campaigning for that jobs and growth, and against the policies of the Tory-led Government that have led to flatlining growth and increasing unemployment in Britain, that will remain Labour?s priority in the months ahead.




Regards


SAME SHIT I GOT FROM A LABOUR MP
CROCK OF SHIT ME THINKS
EU TRUTH ...

[Kalipo]

Hi guys, yesterday was a great day for the EU referendum.. people might not see it that way.. but the goverment are arguing now.. which going on the last 3 conservative goverments the last 3 have resigned..

So... to make this worse for him lets do it all again ..

Please could everyone re-sign the petition?

Referendum on the European Union - e-petitions

If this comes to the commons again.. i cant see them ignoring us anymore.. infact i suspect it will force them to quickly bring laws back..

The Con lib goverment are finished imho

Thanks.

[Snowy79]

Even if they had a referendum they'd just keep having more until they got the answer they want. Blair shafted us by signing our rights away and even though the Tories have brought legislation into place to prevent Brussels taking any more powers from us, you can bet they'll still get the power through the back door.

[Kalipo]

Even if they had a referendum they'd just keep having more until they got the answer they want. Blair shafted us by signing our rights away and even though the Tories have brought legislation into place to prevent Brussels taking any more powers from us, you can bet they'll still get the power through the back door.

I do believe the only way for any goverment to bring it through the back door would be if Lib/labour won a landslide at the next elections.. because these 2 parties are pro Eu.. and would easily pass a law in the commons blocking camerons bill.


Hang on the tories are pro EU... ill scratch that ..

[Snowy79]

Here's the Bill that allegedly protects our powers to from Brussels The Conservative Party | News | News | EU Referendum Lock passed by Lords On paper a cracking bill. The only problem it allows Parliament to decide what powers to hand over. In other words the politicians will still hand our powers over anyway it's just that it goes via our Parliament first. Another smoke screen.

[Kalipo]

Here's the Bill that allegedly protects our powers to from Brussels The Conservative Party | News | News | EU Referendum Lock passed by Lords On paper a cracking bill. The only problem it allows Parliament to decide what powers to hand over. In other words the politicians will still hand our powers over anyway it's just that it goes via our Parliament first. Another smoke screen.

Nice, i wasn't aware of the meaning of this bill as i wasnt interested in its implications.. I'm all for independence rather than as you put it smoke screen politics..

**** the Eussr.. Soviet fuds.

[smokin]

I think Mr C just screwed the UK for the next 10 years or so.....you can't be part of the game if you don't want to play the game by the rules!!

[ruudvandan]

I think Mr C just screwed the UK for the next 10 years or so.....you can't be part of the game if you don't want to play the game by the rules!!

I agree. The best thing for Britain would have been to have a seat at the table so that we could make sure that Britain's interests are considered in any negotiations. Now we'll have no input so our decisions will be made for us.

[Meat-Head]

Anybody contacted ther MP yet?

Hi guys and gals - never see this thread first time round .

Need a little bit of advise on this one:-

The other week some bloke brought his car in - no idea who he was - just some jo public.

We asked him as normal - Are you fat and unemployed or do you work.

His reply was "I'm the MP for Meat-City and surranding area"

Never heard of him - googled him afterwards - oh yes - so he is!

We gave him a massive bill for changing a sidelight bulb (?350+VAT)
Do we contact him using the company e-mail or do we need to set up a fictious one?

Perhaps somebody could twist admins arm to make this a sticky - then we all link to the MP's this thread and Kalio's other one when we write to them

Thanks

Meat