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  • Kalipo
    DK Veteran
    • Mar 2008
    • 1687

    #1

    VICTORY IN NEW FIGHT TO QUIT EU

    THE British public were given fresh hope in the battle to quit the European Union last night.

    Calls were issued in the House of Lords for an inquiry into the multi-billion-pound cost of our EU membership.

    A number of peers declared the eurozone crisis provided ?immaculate timing? for a major report on whether it is worth being saddled with the *burden of paying billions of pounds into Brussels coffers every year.

    They insist that the huge costs to the British taxpayer ?far outweigh the benefits? of being in the EU.

    The peers? attempt to force an inquiry into the economic benefits of Britain being in the EU, which was voted through yesterday, will increase the pressure for a referendum on EU membership.

    And it gives fresh impetus to the Daily Express crusade to cut Britain?s ties with Brussels altogether.

    Last month we forced a historic vote on a European referendum in the House of Commons.

    And earlier this week we revealed that Britain poured a colossal ?18.5billion into the EU last year ? equivalent to ?51million a day.

    The staggering figures, ?730 a year for every household in the UK, come on top of the ?12.5billion shelled out to help rescue Greece, Ireland and Portugal with bailouts.

    Speaking in the House of Lords yesterday, former Ukip leader Lord Pearson of Rannoch said a cost-benefit analysis of Britain?s membership of the EU was long overdue.

    He told peers that a seven-strong committee of inquiry to report on the economic costs and benefits would help increase pressure for a referendum on EU membership.

    Lord Pearson was opening a debate on the second reading of his European Union Membership (Economic Implications) Bill and after lengthy discussion fellow peers waved it through.

    ?For more than 30 years the political class has done its best not to talk about our membership of the EU,? he said.

    ?But the wheel of history turns. And the question as to whether we should leave the EU is now firmly back on the national agenda.

    ?But this Bill does not deal with that question. It is an altogether milder and more innocent creature.

    ?It merely requires the Chancellor to set up an impartial inquiry into the economic costs and benefits arising from our membership of the EU.?

    Lord Pearson said the inquiry could look at some of the ?fundamental misconceptions? about EU membership, such as the claim that British trade and jobs depended on it.

    He said figures showed the UK made a net cash contribution, taking into account receipts from Brussels, of ?10billion last year, or ?28million every day ?with perhaps none of it spent in our national interest?. This, he said, would pay the annual salaries of 940 nurses. The Bill will now go to the committee stage.

    Tory former frontbencher Baroness Noakes backed the call for an inquiry, applauding Lord Pearson?s ?immaculate timing? in the face of ?turmoil in the eurozone?.

    Lord Stevens of Ludgate said the benefits of Britain?s membership of the EU were ?becoming harder to see? and hit out at the juggernaut of EU excess.

    His comments came as it emerged yesterday that the average fat-cat Eurocrat now rakes in ?80,000 a year.

    Figures unearthed by the Daily Express show the EU?s enormous wage bill rocketed to ?4.45billion last year, up an inflation-busting 5.6 per cent on 2009.

    Even taking into account 10,000 lower-paid temporary workers, the typical EU official now enjoys an annual salary, expense account and pension top-up totalling ?79,819.

    That figure is more than twice the average package for a UK civil servant who picks up ?34,596 a year.

    Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | World News :: Victory in new fight to quit EU
    ich bin stolz ein deutscher zu sein.

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  • Kalipo
    DK Veteran
    • Mar 2008
    • 1687

    #2
    And for those stupid enough to think europe is a good thing.

    WHAT A SAUCE! NOW THE EU DEMANDS ?20M GARLIC TAX

    THE European Commission sparked outrage yesterday by demanding Britain pay a ?20million bill for Customs duty on garlic.

    Commissioners issued the ultimatum to pay up within two months or be hauled before the European Court of Justice.

    According to officials in Brussels, UK Customs authorities allowed imports of fresh garlic from China from 2005 to 2006 but charged the import duty appropriate for frozen.

    The commission insists that the mistake let in the rogue garlic at a much lower tariff and as a result Britain failed to collect millions of pounds that should have gone into EU coffers.

    It says the UK authorities ?did not act with all due care? in assessing the garlic imports and must therefore compensate Brussels for the missing revenue.

    Martin Callanan, leader of Britain?s Conservative MEPs, said the Commission?s stance was another example of high-handedness from the EU.

    ?Frankly, I think they?ve got a cheek,? he said. ?They know Britain is facing austerity cuts. They know that we are already one of the EU?s biggest net contributors ? and now they want to send us a garlic bill for ?20million.

    Martin Callanan, leader of Britain?s Conservative MEPs

    ?Excuse the pun, but it leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.?

    An EC spokesman said: ?The Commission is determined to protect the common EU interest.

    ?If a member state fails to make available all the money it owes the EU budget, the other member states need to pay more as a result.?

    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...20m-garlic-tax
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    Meathead Lufter Verein - iScheitern

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    • Snowy79
      DK Veteran
      • Jan 2011
      • 1347

      #3
      The scary thing is we have British MEPs in the EU Parliament. You can bet your money that some of them voted this tax in, in the first place.

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      • Kalipo
        DK Veteran
        • Mar 2008
        • 1687

        #4
        Originally posted by Snowy79
        The scary thing is we have British MEPs in the EU Parliament. You can bet your money that some of them voted this tax in, in the first place.
        Exactly. This is very scary. The government wont want us to moan and kick up a fuss about it because the average EU MP is now paid around ?80k a year.

        You wouldnt want some joey moaning at your work about your wages..

        The president is paid more than barack obama ffs..
        ich bin stolz ein deutscher zu sein.

        Meathead Lufter Verein - iScheitern

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        • Meat-Head
          V.I.P. Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 32000

          #5
          Originally posted by Kalipo
          And for those stupid enough to think europe is a good thing.

          OFF TOPIC:- BUT HEAR ME OUT:-

          Right once upon a time there was cowboys fitting car alarms - badly fitted not working etc etc.

          So along came VSIB - Vechile Security Instalation Board - they had set rules and regulations about fitting INSURANSE APPROVED car alarms - two earth points 30 cm apart - tap off unfused live - remove 30 cm off immboliser cut (pointless - 5 yes for safty reasons), unit must be installed on solid metal by at least 1 selftapping screw and a spring washer (not always possable!)

          Any way you havd to be VSIB approved to install alarm systems - we at M-H-M were ?200 per year - then we heard through the grape vine that some company had got their own 'VSIB' certfcates printed - but with his name - never had any problems.

          Nower days when we inspect an alarm that has no paper work - we just put on the customers invoce car deaails, alarm type etc NEVER had a problem.

          BUT we still install by the VSIB rules - we know that if somebody calls up saying "My car was stolen with the alrm you fitted" - we know that it was 'impossable' - too well fitted.


          So yes certain EU rules are nice - sorry car related can't think - all vechiles 1989 onwards MUST be capable of using unleaded fuel - Rover made it so only the emissions could be adjusted by computer EC said - no must be screwable.

          There are a few 'good' EC rules and a load of tosh ones.

          ON TOPIC:-

          Rumor has it that all these post offices that were took off line was due to EC rules that smaller shaps can't be subsditided by larger shops!

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          • Kalipo
            DK Veteran
            • Mar 2008
            • 1687

            #6
            Originally posted by Meat-Head
            OFF TOPIC:- BUT HEAR ME OUT:-

            Right once upon a time there was cowboys fitting car alarms - badly fitted not working etc etc.

            So along came VSIB - Vechile Security Instalation Board - they had set rules and regulations about fitting INSURANSE APPROVED car alarms - two earth points 30 cm apart - tap off unfused live - remove 30 cm off immboliser cut (pointless - 5 yes for safty reasons), unit must be installed on solid metal by at least 1 selftapping screw and a spring washer (not always possable!)

            Any way you havd to be VSIB approved to install alarm systems - we at M-H-M were ?200 per year - then we heard through the grape vine that some company had got their own 'VSIB' certfcates printed - but with his name - never had any problems.

            Nower days when we inspect an alarm that has no paper work - we just put on the customers invoce car deaails, alarm type etc NEVER had a problem.

            BUT we still install by the VSIB rules - we know that if somebody calls up saying "My car was stolen with the alrm you fitted" - we know that it was 'impossable' - too well fitted.


            So yes certain EU rules are nice - sorry car related can't think - all vechiles 1989 onwards MUST be capable of using unleaded fuel - Rover made it so only the emissions could be adjusted by computer EC said - no must be screwable.

            There are a few 'good' EC rules and a load of tosh ones.

            ON TOPIC:-

            Rumor has it that all these post offices that were took off line was due to EC rules that smaller shaps can't be subsditided by larger shops!
            LOL, yes i agree some rules have made things very different for people.. BUT the bad far outweighs the good.

            If you really want to help the euro, go buy some euro's.. then in a few months time down the line.. ill PMSL.. seriously..

            Prepare for riots in euro collapse, Foreign Office warns
            British embassies in the eurozone have been told to draw up plans to help British expats through the collapse of the single currency, amid new fears for Italy and Spain.
            Italy cannot be bailed out, the financial system is too large.. when Spain, Portugal join Italy and request help... the euro is finished..

            Come what may, i believe this is a good thing.. Yes many many people will suffer.. But they had a choice to join as we did.

            I was always told, if you make a mistake that you should face upto your actions.. and jesus europe has some serious facing up to do
            Last edited by Kalipo; 26 November, 2011, 17:22.
            ich bin stolz ein deutscher zu sein.

            Meathead Lufter Verein - iScheitern

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            • smirnoff_rules
              V.I.P. Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 8603

              #7
              we should of joined up with the yanks and took on the dollor , we have more ties with them than europe
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              • Kalipo
                DK Veteran
                • Mar 2008
                • 1687

                #8
                Originally posted by smirnoff_rules
                we should of joined up with the yanks and took on the dollor , we have more ties with them than europe
                Agreed but not as far as a 51st state.. people should read up on what america had planned for us before the second world war. they planned war. they planned to attack canada. britain would of sent all the troops to defend.. america i think would of been slaughtered against britains 6 million troops + you then add the troops from Nazi germany to britains disposal. the world would be a diferent place now. and yes hitler wanted britain to win.

                But we can have a trade relationship with the usa.. and the commonwealth.. remind yourself where we are.. we are a country within the world.. not just europe.. why tie yourself to that.. ??

                Trade with the world ffs.. i believe europe is stopping people exporting from the UK.. for instance before the EU directive we had massive industrial and engineering plants in this country.. the EU comes along.. slaps taxes on.. the world can then make it cheaper.. so the businesses cant compete and leave....
                Last edited by Kalipo; 26 November, 2011, 17:56.
                ich bin stolz ein deutscher zu sein.

                Meathead Lufter Verein - iScheitern

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                • Meat-Head
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32000

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kalipo

                  Trade with the world ffs.. i believe europe is stopping people exporting from the UK.. for instance before the EU directive we had massive industrial and engineering plants in this country.. the EU comes along.. slaps taxes on.. the world can then make it cheaper.. so the businesses cant compete and leave....
                  *CONFUSED* Like Dyson for example - you got a link to that thread

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                  • Kalipo
                    DK Veteran
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1687

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Meat-Head
                    *CONFUSED* Like Dyson for example - you got a link to that thread
                    LOL, so we as a country should base our economy just on cleaning carpets?? i will download some dirt and upload it through some letterboxes.
                    ich bin stolz ein deutscher zu sein.

                    Meathead Lufter Verein - iScheitern

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                    • Magjar
                      Top Poster
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 122

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Kalipo
                      Agreed but not as far as a 51st state.. people should read up on what america had planned for us before the second world war. they planned war. they planned to attack canada. britain would of sent all the troops to defend..
                      I think what you are referring to were contingency plans...Plans to be undertaken in various cases. There were also plans for Mexico, China, even an internal uprising.

                      Regarding the U.K. joining the EU, I don't see the immediate possibility of that happening. The gov't is in contingency planning for a Euro collapse, something that makes the likelihood of entering into the EU like suicide. The Telegraph has a good article on the subject here:

                      Prepare for riots in euro collapse, Foreign Office warns - Telegraph

                      However, if the EU does actually collapse or comes close to it then the chances of U.K. adoption of the next common currency becomes much more likely, kind of the same school of thought as joining NATO and the United Nations following WW2.

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                      • racin-snake
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 2285

                        #12
                        new bit of fun info from ca moron Cameron veto threat over EU reforms - UK News - MSN News UK
                        Today is the Tomorrow you worried about yesterday ......Was it worth it ?

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                        • Kalipo
                          DK Veteran
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 1687

                          #13
                          Originally posted by racin-snake
                          Wont happen.. cam is in serious trouble i suspect..

                          He can go to where ever tomorrow and thrash out a new plan with merkozy but.. he will have to return to the commons and plead his case.. at the last count there where 100 rebels in his own party alone and then there are the other parties.. DUP for instance who have called for a referendum..

                          But what if labour go against the new plans as they would be against repatriation of powers..

                          Cam is on a lose lose situation.. and could be the start of a vote of no confidence.
                          ich bin stolz ein deutscher zu sein.

                          Meathead Lufter Verein - iScheitern

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                          • mikiemo
                            Member
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 86

                            #14
                            After todays shenanegans, it's clearly time for us to get the ~~~~ out. Sarkozy and co dont want britain rocking what is clearly,France and Germanys boat. Give us our promised referendum now

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                            • super jumbe
                              V.I.P. Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 11610

                              #15


                              French General Charles de Gaulle never wanted UK to join the EU, but we decided to dig the tunnel between UK and France and forced to join and being part of Euro spending billions of pounds.

                              Dog will always twist the tail to his master, that?s about it???.

                              I doubted that we will ever quit the EU.

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