?10m cost of turning off wind farms

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Wind farm operators are on course to earn up to ?10***8201;million this year for turning off their turbines.

Official figures disclosed that 17 operators were paid almost ?7***8201;million for shutting down their farms on almost 40 occasions between January and mid-September. Continuing to make payments at that rate would lead to householders paying out ?9.9***8201;million in 2011 for operators to disconnect their turbines from the National Grid.

The scale of the payments triggered a review of the rules on so-called constraint payments. The payments are made when too much electricity floods the grid, with the network unable to absorb any excess power generated. The money is ultimately added on to household bills and paid for by consumers.

Last year, only ?176,788 of such payments were made, but changes in the way the National Grid, which supplies energy to retail companies, ***8220;balances***8221; the electricity network have meant a huge expansion in their use.

The rules meant that some renewable energy companies were paid more to switch off their turbines than they would have received from ordinary operations.

In September, it was disclosed that ?1.2***8201;million would go to a Norwegian company that owned 60 turbines in the Scottish Borders,




Let me get this right!!!!!!!!!!

Becouse they were producing too much electricity that floods the grid therefore they had to shut down their farms on almost 40 occasions costing people bills to go up.

I thought we were taliking about renewable energy so why our govt is spending another thounsads on solar panels?

[smirnoff_rules]

another green joke

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I wish it was a joke

We should ask our MP why we have to pay extra on top of our bill.

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I wish it was a joke

We should ask our MP why we have to pay extra on top of our bill.

labour gave out to many subsidies and now were paying for there bad maths . this green tax's have crippled so many country's .. apart from china and India because they never joined in

[Kalipo]

This is why wind farms are stupid.

In an ideal world it would be ideal to turn the coal power stations off. and keep only the turbines running.

But.. with wind its not predictable, if the above was done. we would have powercuts when the wind dies down..

Get rid of turbines and get rid of this puppet parliament which is a democracy. Which clearly it isn't, because there hasn't been public consultation.

Grr, wish i never read this joke of a thread now.. my blood is boiling.

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The more I hear this sort of scenarios it just does not add up back of my head?.

It looks the way I try to think about this sort of savings our govt has been telling us, it want be long I am going to end up in mental hospital, I will have to stop reading anything to do with saving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kalipo]

Sj, just give up. policies of the goverment will never change..

I keep hearing it allot on tv lately. UK PLC.. they say it as if its funny. and thats from broadcasters on the BBC. it's like theyre saying..

Oh we're robbing Joe public, we'll rub it in. and make a joke out of it. make it funny.. Err no le cock head.. this is our country.. our homes and our lives.. leave us the ~~~~ alone..

I'm seriously contemplating leaving this god forsaken shit hole and moving out of Europe completely. It's power mad governments have lost the plot completely.

Since i left school. ive paid my bills ontime. never been late.. looked after myself. Then i realised last year that these companies and government arent here to help you, theyre here to screw you. so last year.. i made a pact with myself to rip off as many banks, utilities as possible. Took out mega life insurance.. mortgaged up.. im upto 6k with the banks.. and a few more elsewhere.. eventually with mortgage i will be quids in

[gc1966]

Sj, just give up. policies of the goverment will never change..

I keep hearing it allot on tv lately. UK PLC.. they say it as if its funny. and thats from broadcasters on the BBC. it's like theyre saying..

Oh we're robbing Joe public, we'll rub it in. and make a joke out of it. make it funny.. Err no le cock head.. this is our country.. our homes and our lives.. leave us the ~~~~ alone..

I'm seriously contemplating leaving this god forsaken shit hole and moving out of Europe completely. It's power mad governments have lost the plot completely.

Since i left school. ive paid my bills ontime. never been late.. looked after myself. Then i realised last year that these companies and government arent here to help you, theyre here to screw you. so last year.. i made a pact with myself to rip off as many banks, utilities as possible. Took out mega life insurance.. mortgaged up.. im upto 6k with the banks.. and a few more elsewhere.. eventually with mortgage i will be quids in

it took you until last year to realise??????
seriously tho,i have lived by the same ethos and must admit i would be off like a shot if i could but the lottery just keeps letting me down,will never be able to do by saving

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Originally Posted by Kalipo
But.. with wind its not predictable, if the above was done. we would have powercuts when the wind dies down..




On that basics I can not see any deferent between wind not predictable and sun not predictable when solar panels produce electricity?s when we live in a country we hardly see sun for more then 4 months in a year???

Why can not we just stick to nuclear power?

[Kalipo]

Originally Posted by Kalipo
But.. with wind its not predictable, if the above was done. we would have powercuts when the wind dies down..




On that basics I can not see any deferent between wind not predictable and sun not predictable when solar panels produce electricity?s when we live in a country we hardly see sun for more then 4 months in a year???

Why can not we just stick to nuclear power?

Exactly, nuclear would be the better option, but there will always be the chance of a chinoble

[Canker_Canison]

These problems are caused by people outside the power industry not understanding how it all works.

Coal power is the main source in this country. You can't just turn them off, it takes too long to get them going again.
So when demand is low the eco power is shut off.
But if demand suddenly peaks they turn to gas turbines to cover the extra power needed. Eco power is always the last used.

Coming up with a payment plan to compensate the eco companies for not using their power was just stupid. But then so was siging up to an agreement to use unpredictable eco power sources.