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  • aleister crowley
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    • Nov 2011
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    #1

    Gary Speed

    The widow of former Wales manager Gary Speed tearfully revealed that in the days before he died he had 'talked in terms of taking his life' in a text threatening suicide.

    Louise Speed, 40, made the revelation during the inquest into the former footballer's death at Warrington Town Hall in Cheshire.

    But coroner Nicholas Rheinberg returned a narrative verdict, saying: 'The evidence does not sufficiently determine whether this was intentional or accidental.'
    Mrs Speed also today admitted that she stormed out of their house after an argument and spent the night in the car hours before he was found dead.
    She described to the inquest how they had 'had words' the night before he was found hanging in the garage. She said: 'We walked in the house and we had an exchange of words about something and nothing.'





    'I suggested I would go for a drive. He blocked the back door and said "You are not going anywhere",' she added.


    'I went upstairs and lay on the bed for probably about five or ten minutes. Then I decided to go for a drive, to clear my mind (and for) space to think.'



    The inquest heard Mrs Speed drove to the 'top of the road' and tried to ring her husband's mobile. She parked up for a short time before driving back to the house at 1.30am. She tried to phone again but he did not answer.

    She had left the house through a 'self-locking' side door, and found she was locked out when she returned, coroner Rheinberg heard.
    Mrs Speed slept in the car before attempting to gain entry to the house again the following morning.
    After getting some sleep in the vehicle she told the hearing she woke up at about 6am and went to the outside bathroom.

    She said she noticed some shed keys missing which were usually stored there and went to the shed to see if Gary was there, before moving to the garage.

    The widow broke down in tears as she described walking to the rear of the of the house and seeing her husband's body suspended on stairs from through the garage window.
    After a brief pause to recover her composure, Mrs Speed said: 'I could see him on the stairs. His toes were in contact with the step.'
    She said she then woke their two teenage sons to open up the house and called the emergency services.
    On their advice, she cut her husband to the ground as paramedics were dispatched to the luxury ?1.5million home near Chester on November 27.
    The couple had spent their last evening together at a dinner party at a friend's house where Mr Speed and the other men had jumped into the swimming pool.
    Mr Rheinberg described their behaviour as being 'over-boisterous' but Mrs Speed said that was 'quite normal' and said the evening had been 'all good fun'.

    The couple had arranged to leave their car at the house because they planned to drink, and were taken home at around 12.45am by a pre-arranged taxi. But shortly after they returned home the couple had 'an exchange of words about something'.

    When asked by Mr Rheinberg if there had been 'some degree of stress with the relationship at this time', she agreed and said there had been 'ups and downs' in their marriage.
    Mrs Speed said her husband was forced to spend a lot of time away from home as Wales manager.
    Wearing a grey trouser suit and pattern scarf, Mrs Speed said management and coaching, first with Sheffield United and then Wales, had put 'something of a strain on him'.

    The Welsh role was supposed to be part-time but he was spending 'more time there (at work) than the 'family man' thought he would.

    Mrs Speed agreed that 'for both of us it was difficult', with periods travelling abroad adding to his 'separation' from his family.

    The coroner asked: 'Would it be fair to say there was some degree of stress with the relationship at this time?' and Mrs Speed agreed.

    She added: 'Like all couples we would be going through ups and downs in our marriage and we were working through it.'

    Speaking in hushed tones, she added: 'He was a somewhat closed character.


    'He liked to take on board everyone else's problems and try to help but was not one to open up himself. He was a very private person in a very public role.'

    The day before he died, the 42-year-old former footballer had appeared happy and optimistic during an appearance on the BBC1 show Football Focus.
    Dan Walker, the presenter of Football Focus, spent four hours on and off camera with Speed the day before he died and he said he was left stunned by the tragedy.
    Speaking in the days after the death, he said Speed had been 'as bubbly as I have known him...It's awful to think that someone who was so gifted and so well liked with the rest of his life to look forward to has been so cruelly removed.'
    Newcastle legend Alan Shearer told the inquest that the death of his friend made no sense.
    He said Speed did not appear to be worried about anything when they last met, just hours before his former team-mate was found dead.
    In a written statement, Mr Shearer, who did not appear at the inquest in person, said they were good friends and told how their families had enjoyed holidays together.
    When they met up they 'let off steam and really enjoyed each other's company', he said.

    On their most recent holiday, in August last year, Mr Shearer said Mr Speed was 'more relaxed this year than I have ever seen him'.

    He added that he was aware of a 'couple of issues' between Mr Speed and his wife on the holiday.
    'My response was that is usual in a relationship that is so long-standing,' Shearer said in his statement.
    'I think he took the advice well as his words were that he was "going to give it a go'" and "stick in there".
    Mr Shearer said he last saw Mr Speed at the BBC studios on the Saturday before he died.

    'He seemed fine, laughing and joking,' he added.


    The pair talked about playing in an upcoming charity game and planned to meet up with their wives beforehand.

    Then they watched the Stoke and Blackburn game together, 'chatting away normally', Shearer said.
    'Gary didn't appear worried about anything,' he added. 'Gary seemed to be enjoying his job as Wales manager and coped with the pressure well.
    'He knew what it was like beforehand and some part of him liked to work under pressure. When I left the studio on that Saturday I expected to hear from him on the Monday.
    'On Sunday I got the phone call telling me Gary had died. I didn't believe it. I was shocked. Gary is probably one of the last people out of my million friends to ever do that.
    'I had only seen him the day before and he seemed fine, we had plans for the following week too. It just didn't and still doesn't make sense to me.'


    Gary Speed inquest: Wales boss 'texted wife about killing himself' | Mail Online


    May be just me but a lot of things don't sit right with these statements.
    Last edited by aleister crowley; 31 January, 2012, 08:26.
  • cablefreejunkie
    DK Veteran
    • Jul 2008
    • 1717

    #2
    plenty of other stories doing the rounds aswell
    one in particular suggests speed had been the victim of sexual abuse spanning a couple of decades,and as he was about to release an autobiography where he himself stated you would get to know the real man behind gary speed the footballer etc
    seems strange that the coroner could not come to a definitive conclusion of how he died
    very strange circumstances indeed,it does not make any sense at all,even his best mate alan shearer said the same,this was no suicide in my eyes,but hey what do i know
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    • Lainie
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      • Mar 2008
      • 3062

      #3
      my heart goes out to his wife and family. anyone taking their own life is a tragedy for any family but it must be a nightmare being in the public eye.
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      • cablefreejunkie
        DK Veteran
        • Jul 2008
        • 1717

        #4
        Originally posted by Lainie
        my heart goes out to his wife and family. anyone taking their own life is a tragedy .
        i agree but there was no conclusive evidence from the coroner that he took his own life,
        The control of information is the consolidation of power

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        • Shady
          Shite Link King
          • Dec 2010
          • 6404

          #5
          then its moy-dah!
          Fave replies from various threads

          1: What the fff is all that about??? All that crap below your reply I mean, get a life mate
          2: no info on google abt the pace sv5 rang asda they have no idea what i was talking about,
          3: Your total contribution to this forum, bordering on trolling, seems to have been a collection of snipes, one liners & asterisked expletives





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          • cablefreejunkie
            DK Veteran
            • Jul 2008
            • 1717

            #6
            Originally posted by Shady
            then its moy-dah!
            it certainly seems that way
            The control of information is the consolidation of power

            ?I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain?s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.? ? Nathan Rothschild



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            • conkereye
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              • Feb 2012
              • 3

              #7
              RIP speedo

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              • aleister crowley
                Banned
                • Nov 2011
                • 519

                #8
                Originally posted by cablefreejunkie
                it certainly seems that way
                No but a lot of unanswered questions.

                She says they argued over 'something and nothing' which suggests something trivial but why did she decide she wanted to leave the house?
                He blocked her going which doesn't seem right either over a trivial argument.

                She then basically walked out after 5 to 10 minutes...why? If you've had an argument over 'something and nothing' then why leave?

                The whole slept in the car business is just ludicrous. I think she didn't WANT to go back in the house even if she was actually even there.

                There's lot's of rumours about where she was 'sleeping' when Gary wasn't around and it wasn't in the marital bed.

                I suggest m'lud that the missus was having/had an affair and Mr Speed found out about it.




                ALLEGEDLY.

                Like I said. The statements leave a lot of unanswered questions.

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                • Snowy79
                  DK Veteran
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1347

                  #9
                  Think the coroner needs to retrain for a new job. The guy took some flex and hung himself. Call me old fashioned but doing this does tend to kill you or maybe I've not wasted years at University.

                  The sooner these so called experts man up and say it as they see it the better.

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                  • Shady
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 6404

                    #10
                    hmmm... who said it was flex??? only the real killer would know that detail!!!!
                    Fave replies from various threads

                    1: What the fff is all that about??? All that crap below your reply I mean, get a life mate
                    2: no info on google abt the pace sv5 rang asda they have no idea what i was talking about,
                    3: Your total contribution to this forum, bordering on trolling, seems to have been a collection of snipes, one liners & asterisked expletives





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                    • cablefreejunkie
                      DK Veteran
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1717

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Snowy79
                      Think the coroner needs to retrain for a new job. The guy took some flex and hung himself. Call me old fashioned but doing this does tend to kill you or maybe I've not wasted years at University.

                      The sooner these so called experts man up and say it as they see it the better.
                      the jobs yours
                      The control of information is the consolidation of power

                      ?I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain?s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.? ? Nathan Rothschild



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                      • lfc4life
                        Sports Nutter
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 3200

                        #12
                        The world of football lost a Genuine hard working man and so has his family ! Lets not forget this !

                        R.I.P GARY SPEED
                        IM SORRY but i will never have any sympathy for maggie thatcher .... the bitch

                        I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SAY MY HEART AND RESPECT GOES OUT ALL BRITISH AND ALL ARMY TROOPS FIGHTING THE TERROR WHICH STILL BREEDS IN THE WORLD!! YOU HAVE AND ALWAYS WILL HAVE MY UTMOST RESPECT !

                        YNWA!!!

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                        • cablefreejunkie
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                          • Jul 2008
                          • 1717

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lfc4life
                          The world of football lost a Genuine hard working man and so has his family ! Lets not forget this !

                          R.I.P GARY SPEED
                          i for one have not forgot this,dont know who youre aiming the comment at
                          im just trying to decipher the bullshit that follows an incident like this and try and understand what exactly happened to the man,after all he was in the public domain,quite high profile etc etc
                          The control of information is the consolidation of power

                          ?I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain?s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.? ? Nathan Rothschild



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                          • tshirtman
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                            • Dec 2008
                            • 1345

                            #14
                            It really angers me the way suicide carry's such stigma, if someone has a physical illness, and subsequently kills themselves it is classed as euthanasia,
                            but if you have a mental illness and kill yourself then it's suicide,
                            why are people ashamed to admit, they, or family members have mental health problems, I think whats happened here is, the coroner doesn't want to bring shame on the family by admitting it was suicide, because if he did, people will start pointing the finger at the immediate family and start asking why they didn't notice and do something about it.
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                            • cablefreejunkie
                              DK Veteran
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1717

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tshirtman
                              It really angers me the way suicide carry's such stigma, if someone has a physical illness, and subsequently kills themselves it is classed as euthanasia,
                              but if you have a mental illness and kill yourself then it's suicide,
                              why are people ashamed to admit, they, or family members have mental health problems, I think whats happened here is, the coroner doesn't want to bring shame on the family by admitting it was suicide, because if he did, people will start pointing the finger at the immediate family and start asking why they didn't notice and do something about it.
                              dont agree
                              a coroners job is not in any way shape or form swayed by anything that may come out in the process,thats exactly why we have coroners,they are not in the pockets of politicians police or corrupted individuals,,that said,i was watching a programme recently on a woman who was the coroner for west london and surrounding areas,very interesting programme,,espescially when she was asked about dr david kelly the weapons inspector,she stated that in her whole career she had never not been able to investigate and file a report into the death of any individual
                              accept "dr david kelly" she could not elaborate any further than to say she was bound by the blair goverment...now i know gary speed was high profile but not in that sense
                              the fact is the coroner could not come to a specific conclusion on how gary speed died,,a lot of the story does not add up and that only further fuels rumuors etc which cannot be a nice thing for the family
                              The control of information is the consolidation of power

                              ?I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain?s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.? ? Nathan Rothschild



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