Legal Medical Marijuana Does Not Increase Teen Pot Smoking

**tshirtman** · 9 February, 2012, 05:20

The study showed a discrepancy of 0.53% (negligible) from previous studies, so basically it stayed the same,
I stated cannabis might have some benefit for medical use,
but this is not what Branson was advocating, he wanted cannabis on public sale and tax and duty collected on sales,
my argument was, studies showed adolescents had a greater risk of developing mental health problems the younger they smoked it, and that remains.

A quick search of the British Medical Journal, brought back dozens of papers, carried out in, Australia, Germany, Holland, Sweden, UK. all with the same results, using cannabis at a young age increased the risk of, psychosis, schizophrenia, anxiety, and depression.

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http://www.bmj.com/content/325/7374/1195.1

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http://www.bmj.com/content/325/7374/1183

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http://www.bmj.com/content/325/7374/1199

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http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d738

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http://www.bmj.com/content/332/7534/172

I know you'll never agree with me, but the evidence is there if you look.

**firestorm** · 9 February, 2012, 06:34

The links you have put there are mainly old research, and the study's above have been widely criticized for not adjust for family history of psychosis, a possible confounding factor..Since then there has been a lot more research on the subject, with the exception of http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d738 which states
Cannabis use precedes the onset of psychotic symptoms in individuals with no history of psychotic experiences; incident cannabis use was associated with incident psychotic experiences four years later Continued use of cannabis MIGHT increase the risk for psychotic disorder by impacting on persistence of (normally transitory) psychotic experiences in young people.
In a recent prospective cohort study(2011) of nearly 2,000 German adolescents and young people who were followed-up for a period of 10 years, to determine whether use of cannabis in adolescence increases the risk of self-reported psychotic symptoms; psychotic symptoms (i.e. symptoms below the level required for a clinical diagnosis). It looked at both psychotic symptoms in cannabis users and non-users. It also looked at whether psychotic symptoms persisted in those who used cannabis.
The authors say that cannabis use is already associated with an increased risk of psychotic disorders. However, it is not known whether cannabis use itself increases the risk or if the association is due to people with pre-existing psychotic symptoms tending to use cannabis as a form of self-medication. Also, the mechanism by which cannabis use might cause psychotic symptoms is not yet understood. In this longitudinal study.
Of course, children should be prevented from using any substance, that's a given, but current law is compounding the culture of illicit substance use. A regulated market will not eliminate underage drug use, but it will certainly curtail and restrict.In fact most drugs can not be good for children,For example Caffeine in children there lots of reports like"Caffeine can stimulate immature neurological systems beyond children's ability to tolerate it, which can have serious effects"
Cannabis has many recognised and peer reviewed benefits, and to an individual who's locked in a battle with ill health, cannabis does provide a unique lifeline and harm minimisation in comparison to pharmaceuticals. So when a substance becomes a generic black and white issue that focuses on the negatives, and it's for everyone to be swept along with the same risible broom - the result is a backlash from those who are impassioned. As understandable as this is, it doesn't often prove useful. Current law and dialogue exsist to deter children from using, but the result is that all consensual adults still face up to 14 years in prison.

**ChelseaBun** · 9 February, 2012, 08:12

but... didn't you know? drugs are for mugs

**ezzda1** · 9 February, 2012, 12:22

what I dont understand is there hasnt been one reported death from the use of marijuana yet tobacco kills loads of people every day,
how can you ban one "supposedly" harmful plant without banning them all,
deadly nightshade can be used to poison people but you can still grow it legally in your garden, morning glory seeds can make you trip out for 3-5 days after you eat them but it grows all over England. salvia divinorum is highly hallucinogenic but is legal to grow buy and sell. tobacco if eaten fresh from the plant will make you very ill or kill you, but you can still grow it legally.
in my opinion if it grows naturally how can you ban it.
richard branson has the right idea, but it should cover all drugs, NO ONE has the right to tell ME what I can or cant put into MY body.

**firestorm** · 9 February, 2012, 15:02

This week a disabled man Winston Matthews has been sent to jail along side murders and rapists, for 16 months for growing his own medicine.This is dreadful abuse by the UK state of someone who needs cannabis as medicine. Not only is he sanctioned for growing what he needs to relieve his pain but he will have no access to pain relief for at least six months. He will have no option but to take highly toxic, liver destroying drugs that are legal although infinitely more damaging than cannabis.
Tell me this is right.

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**Shady** · 9 February, 2012, 15:03

what does it say? its unreadable

**firestorm** · 9 February, 2012, 15:25

Originally posted by Shady

what does it say? its unreadable

i am sorry i had to remove it because it was unreadable.

**tshirtman** · 9 February, 2012, 15:49

Originally posted by ezzda1

what I dont understand is there hasnt been one reported death from the use of marijuana yet tobacco kills loads of people every day,
how can you ban one "supposedly" harmful plant without banning them all,
deadly nightshade can be used to poison people but you can still grow it legally in your garden, morning glory seeds can make you trip out for 3-5 days after you eat them but it grows all over England. salvia divinorum is highly hallucinogenic but is legal to grow buy and sell. tobacco if eaten fresh from the plant will make you very ill or kill you, but you can still grow it legally.
in my opinion if it grows naturally how can you ban it.
richard branson has the right idea, but it should cover all drugs, NO ONE has the right to tell ME what I can or cant put into MY body.

maybe not a death directly associated with cannabis but I have experienced 3 deaths as a result of using so that argument is old and wrong.

**tshirtman** · 9 February, 2012, 16:12

let me put another way, you will not deny smoking cigs increases the risk of lung cancer three fold,
all the research shows smoking cannabis increases the risk of mental disorders six fold,
your sounding like the pro smoking lobby 30 years ago when they wouldn't accept the dangers of smoking,
you and many other don't want to accept the risk of smoking cannabis till it's to late, only the risks of smoking cannabis is much higher than cigs to health
the only reason we haven't seen hundreds of thousands of people walking round mentally ill is because it's not on open sale like cigs, and that's the way it'll stay, it will never be legalized and I'm glad.

**firestorm** · 9 February, 2012, 16:36

You are so wrong
Of course i am saddened to here of any deaths under any circumstance.But to blame it on cannabis is a bit harsh, did the coroner sate that cannabis had caused his death?I doubt it.And you say "unit its to late" cannabis has been used for 10,000 years and has only been illegal since 1928 in the UK and we have not all been walking around mental for the last 10,000 year.Even queen Victoria was a user of medical cannabis and she ran the worlds largest empire was she mad as well?

**ChelseaBun** · 9 February, 2012, 16:44

if anyone wants to smoke weed that badly they should just move somewhere where its legal.

and yes the government do have a right to restrict what you put in your body considering its them who'll be giving you the hospital bed if something goes wrong.

**firestorm** · 9 February, 2012, 17:41

Originally posted by ChelseaBun

if anyone wants to smoke weed that badly they should just move somewhere where its legal.

and yes the government do have a right to restrict what you put in your body considering its them who'll be giving you the hospital bed if something goes wrong.

WHY the hell should i go to another country.This is the country i was born.The country i have paid tax and national insurance into for the last 28 years. I dont and never have claimed any benefits from this country only contributed to it. Even when i went to uni i got sponsored by work not the state .I have my family and friends that live here a house that i have paid for through my own hard work, and you have the audacity to tell me to go and live so were else because i want to use a naturally growing herb for medical reasons.

**ChelseaBun** · 9 February, 2012, 17:56

what does not claiming benefits have to do with being ill?

most of the drugs out there are naturally growing, legal or not, doesn't make every single one of them safe.

if you have to set something alight to get it in your body, i highly doubt that's really what its intended use was for

if it was to be made legal, its just asking for a whole new breed of Jeremy Kyle material.

**firestorm** · 9 February, 2012, 19:22

Originally posted by ChelseaBun

what does not claiming benefits have to do with being ill?

most of the drugs out there are naturally growing, legal or not, doesn't make every single one of them safe.

if you have to set something alight to get it in your body, i highly doubt that's really what its intended use was for

if it was to be made legal, its just asking for a whole new breed of Jeremy Kyle material.

You seem to be talking about something you have no idea about.You dont have to burn or light cannabis

you should stop trying to educate your self by watching Jeremy Kyle.Cannabis can be ingested, vaporized even used a on the skin as a oil.
And to answer your statement what has it do with benefits.I was responding to your point that" we should leave this country".I have put a lot into this country and never taken anything out of it, so i shall stay here and fight for my right to use a natural safe herb for medical reasons
For example in last century woman were not allowed to vote and this was unjust.So the Emmeline Pankhurst and other members of the National Society for Women's Suffrage set about changing this unjust law.In the same way that many of us are now losing our freedom for a right in which we believe. To use a herb that gives us a decent standard of living with out constant pain and with out the horrible side effects from prescribed medication.

Legal Medical Marijuana Does Not Increase Teen Pot Smoking

Legal Medical Marijuana Does Not Increase Teen Pot Smoking

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