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  • aleister crowley
    Banned
    • Nov 2011
    • 519

    #1

    Bigger Brother: Total surveillance comes to UK

    In the UK, the chances are you're being watched. It has more CCTV cameras per person than almost any other nation on earth. And now the government is planning to cast its intrusive eye over online activity, phone calls and text messages, all under the guise of an anti-terror law. And as RT's Ivor Bennett reports it's the taxpayer who may well pay in more ways than one

    Bigger Brother: Total surveillance comes to UK - YouTube
  • masur123
    DK Veteran
    • Aug 2009
    • 674

    #2
    George Orwell was absolutely right. But as we sit here and type about this, no one is doing ~~~~ all to stop it

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    • Meat-Head
      V.I.P. Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 32000

      #3
      well im off line to got to carefull what i say

      but think that if 10 people jam bent coins in public phone boxes then its pointless exersise

      nil poi rid of the idea

      sigpicWas Banned For Being Certifiably Insane and Stupid

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      • chalky 4
        DK Veteran
        • Dec 2008
        • 288

        #4
        yes we are all giving up are freedom

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        • TheCoder
          DK Veteran
          • Jun 2011
          • 693

          #5
          This kind of surveillance has been going on for years 'underneath the table'. The only thing thats new here is the Govt want to actually bring it out into the open and make it 'legal' for them to snoop rather than the present shady way its done !

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          • GastonJ
            V.I.P. Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 5505

            #6
            Never will be 'legal', Echelon is in breach of EU law, but doesn't stop them doing it.
            My master plan is to live forever..... going to plan so far
            Despite the cost of living, it's still very popular.
            No good deed goes unpunished....

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            • Meat-Head
              V.I.P. Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 32000

              #7
              gastonj can you explain what you mean

              not going to search whilst off line

              sigpicWas Banned For Being Certifiably Insane and Stupid

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              • aleister crowley
                Banned
                • Nov 2011
                • 519

                #8
                Originally posted by Meat-Head
                gastonj can you explain what you mean

                not going to search whilst off line
                Echelon (signals intelligence) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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                • lagerland
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 6031

                  #9
                  ECHELON is a name used in global media and in popular culture to describe a signals intelligence (SIGINT) collection and analysis network operated on behalf of the five signatory states to the UK***8211;USA Security Agreement (Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States, known as AUSCANNZUKUS or Five Eyes).[1][2] It has also been described as the only software system which controls the download and dissemination of the intercept of commercial satellite trunk communications.[3]
                  ECHELON was reportedly created to monitor the military and diplomatic communications of the Soviet Union and its Eastern Bloc allies during the Cold War in the early 1960s. Since the end of the Cold War it is believed to search also for hints of terrorist plots, drug dealers' plans, and political and diplomatic intelligence.[citation needed]
                  The system has been reported in a number of public sources.[4] Its capabilities and political implications were investigated by a committee of the European Parliament during 2000 and 2001 with a report published in 2001,[5] and by author James Bamford in his books on the National Security Agency of the United States.[3]
                  In a report published in 2001, the European Parliament stated that the term ECHELON is used in a number of contexts, but that the evidence presented indicates that it was the name for a signals intelligence collection system. The report concludes that, on the basis of information presented, ECHELON was capable of interception and content inspection of telephone calls, fax, e-mail and other data traffic globally through the interception of communication bearers including satellite transmission, public switched telephone networks (which once carried most Internet traffic) and microwave links.[5]
                  Bamford describes the system as the software controlling the collection and distribution of civilian telecommunications traffic conveyed using communication satellites, with the collection being undertaken by ground stations located in the footprint of the downlink leg


                  The ability to intercept communications depends on the medium used, be it radio, satellite,
                  microwave, cellular or fiber-optic.[5] During World War II and through the 1950s, high frequency ("short wave") radio was widely used for military and diplomatic communication,[6] and could be intercepted at great distances.[5] The rise of geostationary communications satellites in the 1960s presented new possibilities for intercepting international communications. The report to the European Parliament of 2001 states: "If UKUSA states operate listening stations in the relevant regions of the earth, in principle they can intercept all telephone, fax and data traffic transmitted via such satellites."[5]
                  The role of satellites in point-to-point voice and data communications has largely been supplanted by fiber optics. As of 2006[update], 99% of the world's long-distance voice and data traffic was carried over optical-fiber.[7] The proportion of international communications accounted for by satellite links is said to have decreased substantially over the past few years[when?] in Central Europe to an amount between 0.4 and 5%.[5] Even in less-developed parts of the world, communications satellites are used largely for point-to-multipoint applications, such as video.[8] Thus the majority of communications cannot be intercepted by earth stations, but only by tapping cables and intercepting line-of-sight microwave signals, which is possible only to a limited extent.[5]
                  One method of interception is to place equipment at locations where fiber optic communications are switched. For the Internet much of the switching occurs at relatively few sites. There have been reports of one such intercept site, Room 641A, in the United States. In the past much Internet traffic was routed through the U.S. and the UK, but this has changed; for example 95% of intra-German Internet communications was routed via the DE-CIX Internet exchange point in Frankfurt in 2000.[5] A comprehensive worldwide surveillance network is possible only if clandestine intercept sites are installed in the territory of friendly nations, or local authorities cooperate. The report to the European Parliament points out that interception of private communications by foreign intelligence services is not necessarily limited to the U.S. or British foreign intelligence services.[5]
                  Most reports on ECHELON focus on satellite interception; testimony before the European Parliament indicated that separate but similar UK-US systems are in place to monitor communication through undersea cables, microwave transmissions and other lines.[


                  Intelligence monitoring of people in the area covered by the
                  AUSCANNZUKUS security agreement has caused concern. Some critics claim the system is being used not only to search for terrorist plots, drug dealers' plans, and political and diplomatic intelligence but also for large-scale commercial theft, international economic espionage and invasion of privacy. British journalist Duncan Campbell and New Zealand journalist Nicky Hager asserted in the 1990s that the United States was exploiting ECHELON traffic for industrial espionage, rather than military and diplomatic purposes.[9] Examples alleged by the journalists include the gear-less wind turbine technology designed by the German firm Enercon[10][5]and the speech technology developed by the Belgian firm Lernout & Hauspie.[11] An article in the US newspaper Baltimore Sun reported in 1995 that European aerospace company Airbus lost a $6 billion contract with Saudi Arabia in 1994 after the US National Security Agency reported that Airbus officials had been bribing Saudi officials to secure the contract.[12][13]
                  In 2001 the Temporary Committee on the ECHELON Interception System recommended to the European Parliament that citizens of member states routinely use cryptography in their communications to protect their privacy, because economic espionage with ECHELON has been conducted by the US intelligence.
                  Bamford provides an alternate view, highlighting that legislation prohibits the use of intercepted communications for commercial purposes, although does not elaborate on how intercepted communications are used as part of an all-source intelligence process.





                  There you meaty enjoy your read......................

                  Hope thats right or r look more of a cock than usual if thats possible...............
                  Last edited by lagerland; 12 March, 2012, 19:31. Reason: Added..........
                  I know you believe you understand what you think i said



                  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUT <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
                  I am not sure you realise that what you heard is not what i meant ! sigpic

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                  • Meat-Head
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                    • Oct 2009
                    • 32000

                    #10
                    cool will look at links when home

                    seem to thibk somwthing park rings a bell

                    sigpicWas Banned For Being Certifiably Insane and Stupid

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                    • Wolfpack
                      DK Veteran
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 1530

                      #11
                      The NYPD have a device that can scan you from the police car to see if you have any weapons. It's time to take back our freedom. We all know who the terrorist are. Instead of looking for the bomb we need to look for the bomber.

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                      • Meat-Head
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 32000

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Wolfpack
                        The NYPD have a device that can scan you from the police car to see if you have any weapons. It's time to take back our freedom. We all know who the terrorist are. Instead of looking for the bomb we need to look for the bomber.
                        cool, you got a link?

                        sigpicWas Banned For Being Certifiably Insane and Stupid

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                        • aleister crowley
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 519

                          #13
                          Think this is what Wolfpack is on about

                          NYPD looks to scan people on the street for guns, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly says - NY Daily News

                          But it currently only has a range of 3-4 feet.

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