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  • GastonJ
    V.I.P. Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 5505

    #1

    How times have changed....

    When the 999 service was launched in London 75 years ago it was the world's first emergency phone number. What happened when it rang for the first time?

    It even came with instructions



    A week later, on 7 July 1937, the press reported the first arrest after a 999 call.

    John Stanley Beard was woken in the early hours of the morning by a noise underneath his bedroom window in the affluent neighbourhood of Hampstead, north London.

    The architect told Marylebone Police Court that he looked out and saw a man's foot.

    He shouted at the man who, on hearing Mr Beard's voice, ran off down the garden path, jumped over some railings and headed towards Primrose Hill.

    Meanwhile, Mr Beard's wife - referred to in reports only as Mrs Beard - dialled 999.

    In less than five minutes, 24-year-old labourer Thomas Duffy had been arrested. He was later charged with an attempted break-in with intent to steal.

    BBC News - Dial 999: 75 years of emergency phone calls

    Now the architect would have been charged with breach or the peace for shouting and given an asbo foe waking his neighbours. His wife would have been arrested for making hoax calls due to the alleged burglar just using a public right of way which is well within his rights.

    The alleged burglar meanwhile would have claimed his human rights had been breached and have been compensated for wrongful arrest.

    You're lucky now if the police even turn up after you've been broken into, let alone arrest someone within 5 minutes.

    "A 1951 article in the Post Office Telecommunications Journal described fairly chaotic scenes in its call centres during 999's early days.

    "When the raucous buzzer sounded in the quiet disciplined switchrooms a few of the girls found the situation too much for them and had to be carried out. It was even suggested in the press that the buzzers were disturbing other people living in the vicinity of the exchanges!"
    Last edited by GastonJ; 30 June, 2012, 19:41.
    My master plan is to live forever..... going to plan so far
    Despite the cost of living, it's still very popular.
    No good deed goes unpunished....

  • bobwill
    DK Veteran
    • May 2009
    • 525

    #2
    after 5 minutes the operater would still be asking questions like asking who you are whos phone you are using etc thats before they will let you tell them what you are ringing about

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    • Meat-Head
      V.I.P. Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 32000

      #3
      Now, when i was younger, so much younger than today.

      We was told at Skool - that 999 was choosen, because 0 was for operator, in a fire, in the dark, you felt the metal bar on the telephone dial, and turned it 3 times, to make sure it wasn't done by accident.

      1) RUMOR has it - but NEVER tried it - it works on just 99

      2) you cannot withold your number callin a number of 3 difgits

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      • GastonJ
        V.I.P. Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 5505

        #4
        Oddly enough I recall being told 999 was picked because it would hadly be a number that you can dial by mistake. Around a year ago I had my mobile phone in my pocket, unlocked, and it made that mistake for me.

        99 never worked, I seem to recall trying that as a kid
        If your latter point is true, why do they always ask the number you're dialing from? just a conversation piece then?
        My master plan is to live forever..... going to plan so far
        Despite the cost of living, it's still very popular.
        No good deed goes unpunished....

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        • Meat-Head
          V.I.P. Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 32000

          #5
          Originally posted by GastonJ
          why do they always ask the number you're dialing from? just a conversation piece then?

          i got a new cell phone off ebay - but decided to call my cell phone provider to inform them, it's was a used phone off the interweb

          Said

          Ere, this is my new cell phone, VIN XXXXXX - you have it on your screen anyway.

          Yes Mr Meat-Head have the number on screen.

          sigpicWas Banned For Being Certifiably Insane and Stupid

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          • GastonJ
            V.I.P. Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 5505

            #6
            I can believe that
            My master plan is to live forever..... going to plan so far
            Despite the cost of living, it's still very popular.
            No good deed goes unpunished....

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            • Canker_Canison
              V.I.P. Member
              • May 2010
              • 3905

              #7
              I was under the impression that they originally wanted to use 111.

              But apparently this caused problems as birds sitting on the phone lines could cause false 111 calls by tapping with their beaks.

              Hence the american 911. Since in the old days it took longer to dial a 9 than a 1. The switchboard could pass the call quicker.


              On the mobile phone. Every mobile phone your SIM card is used in (even if just turned on & no calls are made) is registered onto your account. The systems also log the different SIM cards used in a mobile phone. This latter register only recorded network branded phones, at least that was the limits when I worked for a network.
              Most frontline staff won't have access to this detailed data. Only the list of different phones used by the account SIM
              Canker

              "Animal, vegetable or mineral... I'll do anything, to anything, with anything"
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              • Meat-Head
                V.I.P. Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 32000

                #8
                Originally posted by Canker_Canison
                On the mobile phone. Every mobile phone your SIM card is used in (even if just turned on & no calls are made) is registered onto your account.

                The systems also log the different SIM cards used in a mobile phone. This latter register only recorded network branded phones,

                at least that was the limits when I worked for a network.
                Most frontline staff won't have access to this detailed data. Only the list of different phones used by the account SIM
                SO, as my sim card is 'old' bet theree pissed off with me then, been in millions of phones.

                So that HTC you fixed - T-mobile know i've stuck my orange card in it (when i get round to using the phone!)

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                • Canker_Canison
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 3905

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Meat-Head
                  SO, as my sim card is 'old' bet theree pissed off with me then, been in millions of phones.

                  So that HTC you fixed - T-mobile know i've stuck my orange card in it (when i get round to using the phone!)
                  No, but orange know you are using it with one of their SIM's.... in fact, on your account.

                  It helps them keep track of possible fraud. But this data is always useful to the police, MI5, CIA....

                  Even with unregistered prepay phones ('pay-as-you-stalk' to you), those who like to keep track of certain types of people can build up a detailed map of someone's contacts & customers. And their contact's and customers, etc.
                  Canker

                  "Animal, vegetable or mineral... I'll do anything, to anything, with anything"
                  - The Baby Eating Bishop of Bath & Wells
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                  • Meat-Head
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 32000

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Canker_Canison
                    ('pay-as-you-stalk' to you), those who like to keep track of certain types of people can build up a detailed map of someone's contacts & customers. And their contact's and customers, etc.

                    so what your sying is:-

                    ALL your friends (BOTH) of them and your self has a 'pay-as-you-stalk' cell phone and all 3 of you throw them away at the same time and get replacement ones.

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                    • Canker_Canison
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 3905

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Meat-Head
                      so what your sying is:-

                      ALL your friends (BOTH) of them and your self has a 'pay-as-you-stalk' cell phone and all 3 of you throw them away at the same time and get replacement ones.

                      You might dodge them for a while. But when you think that every call made is logged, you have to be very careful not to call friends & family, or even give them the anonymous number. Anything like that could give your identity away.

                      Don't worry about it. I've heard Tracy wants you to find her.
                      Canker

                      "Animal, vegetable or mineral... I'll do anything, to anything, with anything"
                      - The Baby Eating Bishop of Bath & Wells
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