Paedophile Sex Ring held sex parties at country farmhouse'

[waqasahmed]

Paedophile ring 'held sex parties at country farmhouse' - Telegraph

This is more of a response to this thread:

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f86/nine-men-convicted-child-sexual-exploitation-270230/index2.html

Where I noticed people blaming culture etc... and how the elders do nothing etc... when in reality those rapists in the other thread will have quickly be shunned by all their family/friends

Notice how the other thread made top page news, whilst this didn't. If we then take the logic of people saying it's a cultural problem, I say in a sarcastic tone "What is is about British culture that means that these men see those girls as "easy meat""

Again, I don't actually mean that. It's a sarcastic response to the other thread.

It's also interesting about what's actually reported in the media and what's not

I mean the scapegoats in the past have been: Jews, Catholics, Jews again, Blacks, Asians(including Indians) and now it seems to be Muslims ie: people are calling these gangs "Islamic rape gangs" Seriously? It's not like any of them has admitted to actually practising

I wouldn't be surprised if Eastern Europeans are the scapegoats of the future. In a sense, I'm quite relieved, but in another sense, it bloody annoys me that society hasn't really changed since the 30's; it's just the group that is being scapegoated, which has been changed

It's tabloid sensationalism which is causing mass hysteria, whilst in reality, they are just using hyperbole

Tabloid Watch

Rant over

[bobwill]

What are you insinuating that we only care when its children been groomed by muslim men we care what ever the race should cut the balls out but if you want to think that the 9 were only charged because they where muslim I feel sorry for you and others who think the same.

[waqasahmed]

What are you insinuating that we only care when its children been groomed by muslim men we care what ever the race should cut the balls out but if you want to think that the 9 were only charged because they where muslim I feel sorry for you and others who think the same.

This is definitely not the point that I was trying to make.I think that most people will realise a crime is a crime, regardless of what race, nationality, or religion the person is. It was a response to the people in the other thread where some people were blaming the culture, where in reality, in another story, one of the group even said that their family doesn't even want to know him and to lock him away. That was never picked upon

The bit about scapegoating was more of a reference to my dislike to the Daily Mail. Sorry, I should have made it clear. Notice how the DM went for this headline, when they had more people viewing stories ie: in the morning


then updating it to this later



Also, conveniently missing out that Asian Christians were 2% more likely to want honour violence than Asian Muslims

Then you have things like the bride burning, baby girl fetus aborting in India, and similar stories in China. Does this then mean that this is a part of Indian or Chinese culture/religion, or in the case of China, the lack of? Does it hell. They are a few people who are trying to justify their actions and pinning it on something that people can relate to

It was mainly posts like this which enraged me (which were the minority, I may add)

"Yeah White trash with` slag tag` tats. on their backs ! Get used to it this is the future you allowed. Baaaaaa "

"All part and parcel of multiculturism goes on all over the country. You allowed it. Get used to it. "

"WE don't allow it, WE have no choice but if we did Im sure things would be different"

"Is this how a Pakistani islamic paedophile defends his actions?"

Like hell they were practising

^ Like that sort of stuff didn't happen here before.

Below, A person who misunderstands the fact that in the culture, rape is rape, regardless of who you raped. The people will still be up in arms, but it's not going to be published in the press is it?

"9 men(wrong)not men,beasts,paeds,those girls were under 16,its a no no,taboo.another thing i can say is white girls are a target,as they can do what they want,as certain things not allowed in own culture,its what i call clean sex,anymore than natural is disrespect,if this happened to own culture girls,the elders would be up in arms about it,but it would be kept quiet,dealt with inside.i am what you would call a white insider,i see and hear what goes on,in fact i know 1 guy married with kids,nice looking wife,but still goes looking for white women,respect is most important in asian life,ie if a member of the family ask you to do a favour for them even at own expence and you dont do it,the elder of the family will come down on you like a ton of bricks for being disrespectful.very strict culture."

This was just pure sensationalism

"police claim not a racist issue,but you can bet your life savings if it was a white gang that did this to asian girls they would be falling over themselves to make it one!"

Sorry for the rant, but I also did a massive rant here as well(Though at least I back myself up)

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f85/what-do-ya-make-video-259497/

[ray156]

this should make peeps feel a bit better,in the back of their mind.......

Paedophile dies in prison custody in hospital

A paedophile who was jailed last year at the age of 80 for sex attacks carried out more than 40 years ago, has died in custody.
William Speirs was convicted at Livingston Sheriff Court last July of offences against four children.
A trial had heard he had begun abusing his victims when they were just three-years-old.
The Scottish Prison Service said he died at Edinburgh Royal Infirmary on Saturday.

[Canker_Canison]

As with most things, a lot of what has been said get's taken out of context.

We hear about honour killings in the Asian community.. Do you deny that these things happen?

Throughout the Asian continent it is seen that women are oppressed & used like slaves. Not everywhere, but it does happen.

In China that have strict laws on having more than one child. You can do it, but you lose government money by doing so. It is also seen that it is better to have a male child over female. So you do find more abortions of female babies. But the government has to held partly accountable for that, not just their culture.

I personally have seen Nigerian immigrants walking past night clubs looking for white women to grab & drag off. They are not subtle about it. It was literally "you come with me, sex now!". He wouldn't take no for an answer & the more they fight them off, the more violent these men become.
They have no respect & just do what they want to do. Until they get a good kicking by a few local lads.

You can't refuse to believe these things happen. But you tend to find that abusers & peados for the UK usually have a history of abuse behind them. Where with other cultures it is seen to be the norm by hardline believers.

Go back a few years in this fine country & a wife could not have her husband charged with rape. We finally changed our laws. But the hardline Muslims don't want change, and out away from the asian cities it's the clerics that hold the laws that must be followed.

[waqasahmed]

As with most things, a lot of what has been said get's taken out of context.

We hear about honour killings in the Asian community.. Do you deny that these things happen?

Of course I don't deny that. Though "honour killings" happen in the UK as well. They're called "crimes of passion" Same shit, different name, different reasons

On another note, I don't see how living to a code of honour is a bad thing. It's akin to wanting to live as a lady or a gentleman ie: just being polite and respectful to every one you meet. Killing is never "honourable"

Throughout the Asian continent it is seen that women are oppressed & used like slaves. Not everywhere, but it does happen.

I personally see a lot of Asian countries as like 1950's UK, socially

I personally have seen Nigerian immigrants walking past night clubs looking for white women to grab & drag off. They are not subtle about it. It was literally "you come with me, sex now!". He wouldn't take no for an answer & the more they fight them off, the more violent these men become.
They have no respect & just do what they want to do. Until they get a good kicking by a few local lads.

Fair enough, but I don't think that they would have done it just because they were Nigerian. They most likely were brought up in a less than economically active area, where prejudice against people that aren't any thing like them is high

You can't refuse to believe these things happen. But you tend to find that abusers & peados for the UK usually have a history of abuse behind them. Where with other cultures it is seen to be the norm by hardline believers.

I'd disagree that it's seen as the "norm"

Go back a few years in this fine country & a wife could not have her husband charged with rape. We finally changed our laws. But the hardline Muslims don't want change, and out away from the asian cities it's the clerics that hold the laws that must be followed.

The whole wife rape thing holds true, yes but I don't think any one has said that they tolerate rape in non marriage situations

For the record, I don't support rape in any situation. Also, if you do notice, that in SA, there were mass protests in the streets when someone said that, yet that's not a country for free speech

[Canker_Canison]

Crimes of passion are very different from honor killings.

A crime of passion would be best described as an individual being slighted by another. An example would be, an affair that leads to divorce. Husband kills wife as can't cope seeing her with someone else.

An honor killing is related to precieved disgrace upon a family name due to the actions of an individual. Usually in the refusal to accept an arranged marrage, or sexual contact outside of marrage. Strangely the second only ever seems to be enforced against the women.

As far as being the norm goes. Here's some details on Shariah Law in Afghanistan....

Under the Shariah laws in Afghanistan, the Taliban's religious police, formally known as the Department for Prevention of Vice and Promotion of Virtue, enforce the Shariah laws.


For example, a man***8217;s beard must be long enough to protrude from a fist clenched at the base of the chin. If it is not, he is subject to punishment.


Under Shariah in Afghanistan, women are not allowed to work in any field except the medical sector.
The Islamic law of Afghanistan does not allow the employment of women in government departments or international agencies.



Women should not go outside their residences with the exception of those working in the medical sector.




Shariah also places restrictions on what women can wear and whom they can see. It forbids women from wearing jewelry and make-up and from making noise with their shoes when they walk.



If a woman does work outside the home, she is forbidden to sit beside the driver when traveling to and from work. Stylish dress and decoration of women is forbidden.


There have been reported cases of the beating female doctors and female medical staff at the hospitals where they worked.

South Africa is still a very dangerous place with a lot of history regarding opression. Aparteid was defeated, but it still has a long way to go before the violence & civil unrest settles down.