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  • GastonJ
    V.I.P. Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 5505

    #1

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    Former miners' leader Arthur Scargill has lost his High Court fight to have the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) continue to pay for his London flat.

    Mr Scargill was president of the NUM until July 2002 and led it during the miners' strike from 1984 to 1985.

    He stepped down as president of the union but claimed his contract entitled him to a London home for life, or the life of his widow.

    Chris Kitchen, NUM general secretary, said Mr Scargill had been "found out".

    Mr Scargill said that the judgment was "perverse".

    "The NUM is not your personal bank account and never will be again."

    BBC News - Arthur Scargill loses London flat case

    About bloody time he got his. Along with Maggie he accelerated the closures of the mines and thinks the NUM still owe him. The NUM was supposed to be there for the miners and he milked it dry and is still trying.
    My master plan is to live forever..... going to plan so far
    Despite the cost of living, it's still very popular.
    No good deed goes unpunished....

  • Meat-Head
    V.I.P. Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 32000

    #2
    Originally posted by GastonJ
    About bloody time he got his. Along with Maggie he accelerated the closures of the mines and thinks the NUM still owe him. The NUM was supposed to be there for the miners and he milked it dry and is still trying.

    *CONFUSED*

    Word on the street said, Maggie hated him, her fault theres now 300 years worth a no good coal (no mines, no pumps, water logged, ruined) in the ground.

    OFF TOPIC:-

    Good idea of filling coal mines with rubbish.

    sigpicWas Banned For Being Certifiably Insane and Stupid

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    • GastonJ
      V.I.P. Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 5505

      #3
      Originally posted by Meat-Head
      *CONFUSED*

      Word on the street said, Maggie hated him, her fault theres now 300 years worth a no good coal (no mines, no pumps, water logged, ruined) in the ground.

      OFF TOPIC:-

      Good idea of filling coal mines with rubbish.
      and the miners striking helped her close them quite quickly. I don't see Arthur struggling like the ex-miners have, do you?
      My master plan is to live forever..... going to plan so far
      Despite the cost of living, it's still very popular.
      No good deed goes unpunished....

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      • Meat-Head
        V.I.P. Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 32000

        #4
        Originally posted by GastonJ
        and the miners striking helped her close them quite quickly. ?

        Understand, wasn't my department when the miners were striking - what was the reason for it?

        OFF TOPIC:-

        When the Inglish miners were striking, no coal, no iron ore.

        So ANY Inglish made cars from 1984/1985 were made out of metal from Brazill or somewhere - rotted like mad.

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        • GastonJ
          V.I.P. Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 5505

          #5
          From memory, closure of some mines, replacement of some coal fired power stations with gas etc. Not to mention to bolster the ego's of both Maggie and King Arthur. Also probably revenge for the Heath government losing the election in 1974.
          My master plan is to live forever..... going to plan so far
          Despite the cost of living, it's still very popular.
          No good deed goes unpunished....

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          • gc1966
            DK Veteran
            • Mar 2011
            • 2434

            #6
            the reason was that indeed the union's effectively ousted the heath govt and as such thatcher decided to destroy them all started with the biggest and most powerful of them by appointing ian mcgregor as leader of the ncb.basically,an hatchet man who was given the job of shutting coal mines which he had previously shut factories in the steel industry.

            all in the so called name of profit,in truth he received a massive incentive bonus coupled with a knighthood for
            good measure.

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            • lagerland
              V.I.P. Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 6031

              #7
              I love poetic justice and they do say what goes round comes round in one way or another................
              I know you believe you understand what you think i said



              >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUT <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
              I am not sure you realise that what you heard is not what i meant ! sigpic

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              • rds60h
                DK Veteran
                • Nov 2008
                • 622

                #8
                It is the usual case, like the majority of Politicians and high level Union Officials they are only in it for themselves.
                Although at the time Arthur Scargill was right in his battle call that Maggie Thatcher was out to kill off the Unions and make the working class do as they are told.

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                • GastonJ
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 5505

                  #9
                  It was the way he went at it that always bothered me. All he managed to do in the end was help himself and keep on helping himself to money paid by members. Despite Maggie and Arthurs best efforts the unions survived and will as long as people support them.

                  I wonder how many miners got the benefits he did during and after the strike.
                  My master plan is to live forever..... going to plan so far
                  Despite the cost of living, it's still very popular.
                  No good deed goes unpunished....

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                  • johnboy1974
                    DK Veteran
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 3418

                    #10
                    Regardless of wether you hate the man or not. Would you not fight for something that someone had contractually agreed with you and then rescinded on the deal. I know I would.


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                    • GastonJ
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 5505

                      #11
                      Originally posted by johnboy1974
                      Regardless of wether you hate the man or not. Would you not fight for something that someone had contractually agreed with you and then rescinded on the deal. I know I would.


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                      He didn't though, he got the miners to do it instead. However, as above, the miners didn't get the benefits that he did, and they paid for it, not only with their jobs being lost but also continued to pay it with the his flat and all the other benefits he continued to receive long after he'd forgotten them.

                      I shall add, I don't hate him, I just think that he left the miners high and dry and looked after himself very nicely with their money while they lost their jobs and struggled.
                      Last edited by GastonJ; 27 December, 2012, 23:11.
                      My master plan is to live forever..... going to plan so far
                      Despite the cost of living, it's still very popular.
                      No good deed goes unpunished....

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                      • johnboy1974
                        DK Veteran
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 3418

                        #12
                        Originally posted by GastonJ
                        He didn't though, he got the miners to do it instead. However, as above, the miners didn't get the benefits that he did, and they paid for it, not only with their jobs being lost but also continued to pay it with the his flat and all the other benefits he continued to receive long after he'd forgotten them.

                        I shall add, I don't hate him, I just think that he left the miners high and dry and looked after himself very nicely with their money while they lost their jobs and struggled.
                        The whole point of the court case was that scargill said he was told the house was his for life. Under employment law in the uk this would constitute a verbal agreement of terms and conditions if employment. And that is what he was fighting for.
                        As someone who has been down that road I fully understand his position.

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