how would you vote ? come out of the eu or stay in

[gmb45]

More than half of Britons would vote to pull out of EU: Euroscepticism has rocketed in just a decade

• A poll has revealed 51 per cent of people questioned want to get out of Europe
• Just 40 per cent said they wanted to stay in
• Ten years ago a similar poll found we wanted to stay in Europe by a margin of 68 per cent to 19 per cent

As it is revealed more than half of Britons would pull out of EU, David Cameron will finally make a speech setting out his vision for the UK's relationship with Europe

Britain is becoming a more Eurosceptic country ? with a majority saying they would vote to leave the EU.

A poll has revealed that 51 per cent of respondents want to get out of Europe, against just 40 per cent who want to stay in.

The survey represents a massive turnaround on a decade ago, when a similar poll found we wanted to stay in Europe by a margin of 68 per cent to 19 per cent.

Euroscepticism has also hardened since the pollsters last asked the same question just over a year ago when 49 per cent wanted to leave, against 40 per cent who wanted to remain in the EU.

The revelation follows months of crisis in the eurozone, including fears over the collapse of the single currency.

And support for UKIP is at its strongest for years, with the anti-Europe party overtaking the Lib Dems in the polls and coming second in the recent Rotherham by-election.

Meanwhile, David Cameron is to finally make a long-anticipated speech setting out his vision for the UK?s relationship with Europe.

The Prime Minister is expected to announce that he will include a pledge in the Tory manifesto to hold a referendum on whether voters want to maintain the status quo, or see powers repatriated from Brussels.

Mr Cameron has faced calls from backbenchers to hold a simple in-out referendum on the EU.

Yesterday Douglas Carswell, Tory MP for Clacton, said: ?This poll is really significant. We are now seeing a majority wanting to quit.?

The ICM poll for The Guardian shows opponents of the European ideal are particularly determined to leave.

Some 36 per cent said they would definitely vote to pull Britain out, against just 22 per cent who want to stay in.

That compares with 18 per cent who say they would probably want to stay in, and 15 per cent who would probably want to get out. Another 9 per cent did not know.

The revelation follows months of crisis in the eurozone, including fears over the collapse of the single currency

When split along party lines, there is a clear majority among Tory voters in favour of pulling out.

The poll shows that 57 per cent of Conservatives want to leave the EU, compared with 44 per cent of Labour voters.

Even among the Lib Dems, the most pro-European party, a third (34 per cent) want out.

Broken down further, it shows 41 per cent of Tories definitely want to leave the EU.

Men are more likely to be anti-Europe with 40 per cent definitely wanting to leave, while only 32 per cent of women take the same view.

The older a person gets, the more anti-European they are. Some 49 per cent of pensioners definitely want to leave, compared with just 16 per cent of those aged between 18 and 24.

Hostility to Europe is more marked in England and less so among professionals.

Only 32 per cent of voters in the top AB social group definitely want to leave the EU, compared with 45 per cent of C2 skilled manual workers.

Whereas in England 38 per cent are in this hardline camp, in Scotland and Wales the figures are 27 and 26 per cent.

Mr Cameron is expected to use his speech to offer a referendum on the terms of EU membership after 2015.

The poll results on how public would vote on a referendum on the European Union

He will demand a new settlement as the price of British support for a major revision of the Lisbon Treaty to underpin new governance arrangements for the eurozone.

A group of Eurosceptic Tories last night called on Mr Cameron to set out two ?nuclear? options to European leaders to ensure key British interests are protected in a reformed EU.

A manifesto unveiled by the Fresh Start group said the UK needed to take a hardline stance because Germany?s Chancellor, Angela Merkel, wants to deepen the powers of the bloc.

Andrea Leadsom, Tory MP for South Northamptonshire, said option one would be an effective veto over financial services regulations.

Option two would be to join with like-minded states to end the working time directive, which says no one must work longer than 48 hours a week.
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More than half of Britons would vote to pull out of EU: Euroscepticism has rocketed in just a decade | Mail Online

[elplicko]

just voted and my own preference is to come out

[Snowy79]

Bail out. All the propoganda about how much business we would lose only comes from the men in charge that get the back handers. Funny how China isn't part of the EU but we buy the majority of our gear from them. Just match their work ethos.

[Shady]

Spain steals our fish.
we pay in more than we take out.
It helped open the door to all the immigrants.
Our supreme court is answerable to Luxembourg
Norway said no, and they positively prospered
the negatives of the eu far outweigh the positives

[super jumbe]

Totally agree with shady should have stayed out from the start.
How are we going to come out is the issue?

[Shady]

and i may be wrong, but its probably the eu's fault us smokers are made to feel like lepers

[tornado]

will anyone vote to stay in

[super jumbe]

Originally Posted by tornado
will anyone vote to stay in




Check the poll only 1 voted as don?t know

[blueflash234]

look at it this way europe has fought each other for century's but since the eu there has been peace for 70 years, we as a nation dont know how to get the most out of the eu we implement every bad rule in this country where other country's ignore these we dont know how to swerve these things,we would flourish out side the eu maybe thats whats needed, unless we change how we manage our eu connection we might be better out.but remember if we flourish that well outside whos to say our neighbours might get jealous and come and take it, we would not have the americans and russians to bail us out this time

[Shady]

look at it this way europe has fought each other for century's but since the eu there has been peace for 70 years,

is it 2063 then? because the EU was formed in 1993

[rds60h]

Voted get out, never wanted us to join. We used to have the Commonwealth countries to trade with which gave us a much wider market.
We fought 2 World Wars to stop Germany ruling Europe, Angela Merkel has achieved what Kaiser Wilhelm II and Adolph Hitler couldn't.

[blueflash234]

the old common market started in the 50/60's

[nush]

stay in. most peeps complain about health and safety legislation. bosses hate it. ive worked in heavy industry most of my life, i like the fact that bosses cant force me to work long hours, i like the fact that my boss has to consider my safety when i am at work.
the biggest problem with the EU for the UK comes from the fact that we dont have any influence, because all we do is try and stop every piece of legislation they produce rather than actually taking part and making the legislation work better for us.

[GastonJ]

I voted for stay in as well. Much as I hate the cost, it's a club. If we weren't in the "club" and we still had a manufacturing industry they'd slap us to death with tariffs to make our goods cost more when we tried to sell them etc. We'd still have to deal with the basseds anyway, since anything going overland would end up going through France and the EU anyway. They should however stop the subsidies that they give to prop up ailing industries/institutions etc - we may end up paying less towards the budget etc.

Some of the legislation that comes out is useful, minimum wage, working time directive and the like. Not all good legislation, however you take the bad with the good.

As for Norway:

Norway's foreign minister has urged the UK to assess the advantages of staying in the European Union, rather than consider leaving.

Norway is not in the EU but has access to the single market. UK Eurosceptics use it as a model for how the UK could relate to the EU from outside.

But Foreign Minister Espen Eide said Oslo had "limited scope for influence".

"We are not at the table when decisions are made," he told Radio 4's The World This Weekend.

Mr Eide is pro-EU, though Norwegian voters have twice rejected the chance to join the EU in referendums in 1972 and 1994.

Sir Nigel Sheinwald, a former UK ambassador to the US and to the European Union, said: "The issue is - do you want to be part of the single market? All the economic indicators are that the UK needs to be.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20830201

Commonwealth - we still are part of the Commonwealth and trade with them. The reason we pulled out of so many countries in the Empire was due to it being a condition imposed by the Americans for 'helping' us out with loans during the war.

Smokers? - blame doctors for that. If you really want someone to blame, them blame the likes of BAT and the tobaccco industry in general. However you only smoke because you wanted to. No good blaming anyone else.

[gmb45]

resounding yes to come oot so far, would be interesting to see the results of a referendum, which will never happen of course