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  • caveman_nige
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    • Feb 2008
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    North Korea 'moves mid-range missile'

    North Korea has shifted a missile with "considerable range" to its east coast, South Korea's foreign minister says.
    Kim Kwan-jin played down concerns that the missile could target the US mainland, and said the North's intentions were not yet clear.
    Pyongyang earlier renewed threats of a nuclear strike against the US, though its missiles are not believed to be capable of carrying nuclear warheads.
    The US is responding to North Korea by moving missile defence shields to Guam.
    The Pentagon said the shield on its Pacific island territory would be ready within weeks, adding to warships already sent to the area.

    Despite all the bluster, experts do not believe that North Korea has the capacity to launch a nuclear-armed ballistic missile at the US. However, American bases in South Korea, Japan and perhaps even as far away as Guam could well be within range of Pyongyang's conventionally armed missiles.
    The US response has been a mixture of reassurance for its allies and prudent defensive precautions, including the deployment of warships with anti-missile capabilities.
    Other anti-missile defences in the region are also being bolstered, a step that carries an additional message to Beijing - that if Pyongyang remains on this course anti-missile systems will only proliferate, something that may eventually compromise the effectiveness of China's own nuclear deterrent.

    The North has previously named Guam among a list of possible targets for attack that included Hawaii and the US mainland.
    Japanese and South Korea reports had suggested the missile being moved by the North was a long-range one with a capability of hitting the US west coast.
    However, experts believe the North's most powerful rocket, which it test-fired last December, has a range of 6,000km (3,700 miles) and can reach no further that Alaska.
    Kim Kwan-jin told MPs in a parliamentary defence committee meeting that the missile had "considerable range".
    "The missile does not seem to be aimed at the US mainland. It could be aimed at test firing or military drills," he said.
    Analysts have interpreted Mr Kim's description as referring to the Musudan missile, estimated to have a range up to 4,000km. Guam would be within that range.
    The North is believed to have its main military research centres in the east.
    It has test-fired missiles from there before, and its three nuclear-weapons tests were carried out in the east.

    US newspapers react

    The New York Times says: "The Obama administration was prudent to bolster its forces in the region. Many experts assume Mr Kim won't attack the world's top military power or its allies, but Washington has an obligation to guarantee that if this assumption is wrong, it can defend the homeland."
    From the Washington Post: "What the administration really needs, however, is a new strategy for answering the provocations. Diplomacy hasn't worked; neither has pressuring China to restrain the Kim regime. What has are financial sanctions targeted at the ruling elite."
    The New Jersey Star-Ledger says: "While many buy into the old disarmament-for-food storyline, there's another camp concerned this episode might be different: that Kim, with little more than a year on the job, might actually believe his nation has become a nuclear power."
    • Despite its belligerent rhetoric, North Korea has not taken direct military action since 2010, when it shelled a South Korean island and killed four people.


    But in recent weeks it has threatened nuclear strikes and attacks on specific targets in the US and South Korea.
    It has announced a formal declaration of war on the South, and pledged to reopen a mothballed nuclear reactor in defiance of UN Security Council resolutions.
    In its latest statement, attributed to a military spokesman, the North appeared to refer to ongoing military exercises between the US and South Korea in which the US has flown nuclear-capable bombers over the South.
    The statement said the "ever-escalating US hostile policy towards the DPRK [North Korea] and its reckless nuclear threat will be smashed".
    It promised to use "cutting-edge smaller, lighter and diversified nuclear strike means of the DPRK" and said the "merciless operation of its revolutionary armed forces in this regard has been finally examined and ratified".
    The US Department of Defense said on Wednesday it would deploy the ballistic Terminal High Altitude Area Defense System (Thaad) to Guam in the coming weeks.

    Timeline: Korean tensions

    • 12 Dec: North launches a rocket, claiming to have put a satellite into orbit
    • 12 Feb: North conducts underground nuclear test
    • 11 Mar: US-South Korea annual military drills begin
    • 30 Mar: North says it is entering a "state of war" with South
    • 2 Apr: North says it is restarting Yongbyon reactor

    • The Thaad system includes a truck-mounted launcher and interceptor missiles.


    US officials recently also announced that the USS John McCain, a destroyer capable of intercepting missiles, had been positioned off the Korean peninsula.
    Some analysts say Pyongyang's angry statements are of more concern than usual because it is unclear exactly what the North hopes to achieve.
    As well as the rhetoric, Pyongyang has also taken action to deepen antipathy with the South.
    It has shut down an emergency telephone line and stopped giving access to South Koreans who work at the joint industrial zone in Kaesong in the North.
    The Kaesong complex is staffed mainly by North Koreans but funded and managed by South Korean firms.
    Pyongyang blocked access for a second day on Thursday, and threatened to shut down the zone.




  • caveman_nige
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    • super jumbe
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      • Dec 2008
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      #3
      UUN Declared war when Eraq did not have mass distraction, they all bottled out when Corea have the mass nuc load, chicken waiting for the opponent 1st move!!!!!!!
      Tools owned: Hammer, Chisel, Crowbar, Punch, Chainsaw, Cutter and Brain!!!

      Did you know People will question all the good things they hear about you but believe all the bad without a second thought.

      Note:
      All information given is to be used for educational purposes only and should not be taken seriously.

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      • Shady
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        • Dec 2010
        • 6404

        #4
        was just about to start a thread about lil kim and his toys. Does anybody else think its all going to kick off? And if it does, will it be localised in korea/asia or will it spread worldwide? Whose fault is all this? I blame america. theyve been poking the dprk for 60 years.

        Sent from my telegraph using Morse code
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        1: What the fff is all that about??? All that crap below your reply I mean, get a life mate
        2: no info on google abt the pace sv5 rang asda they have no idea what i was talking about,
        3: Your total contribution to this forum, bordering on trolling, seems to have been a collection of snipes, one liners & asterisked expletives





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        • Shady
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          • Dec 2010
          • 6404

          #5
          and another thing.... whenever the media talk about north korea, they call it a "highly secretive state", but then go on to report about the supposedly tinpot weapons, the prison camps, the starvation, even kims movie collection. It smacks of blatant propaganda to paint them as a great evil

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          Fave replies from various threads

          1: What the fff is all that about??? All that crap below your reply I mean, get a life mate
          2: no info on google abt the pace sv5 rang asda they have no idea what i was talking about,
          3: Your total contribution to this forum, bordering on trolling, seems to have been a collection of snipes, one liners & asterisked expletives





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          • aftermath
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            • Mar 2008
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            • andy1967
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              • Oct 2010
              • 1378

              #7
              Sir Alex Ferguson in 1988

              "This isn't just a job to me." "It's a mission. I am deadly serious about it. Some people would reckon too serious. We will get there, believe me. And when it happens, life will change for Liverpool and everyone else - dramatically."

              Sir Alex Ferguson. (20)

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              • Shady
                Shite Link King
                • Dec 2010
                • 6404

                #8
                Far be it from me to take a serious stance on taking the piss out of somebody... but all this stuff portraying North Korea as a backwards country with a silly head of state may not seem so funny when and if he decides to put some muscle behind his hustle
                Fave replies from various threads

                1: What the fff is all that about??? All that crap below your reply I mean, get a life mate
                2: no info on google abt the pace sv5 rang asda they have no idea what i was talking about,
                3: Your total contribution to this forum, bordering on trolling, seems to have been a collection of snipes, one liners & asterisked expletives





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                • jordigirl
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                  • Oct 2011
                  • 716

                  #9
                  not like you not to take the pi$$ shady

                  he's all mouth shady, don't think he's actually do anything stupid,







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                  • Shady
                    Shite Link King
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 6404

                    #10
                    I hope that he doesnt, im just not believing all the US propaganda.
                    Fave replies from various threads

                    1: What the fff is all that about??? All that crap below your reply I mean, get a life mate
                    2: no info on google abt the pace sv5 rang asda they have no idea what i was talking about,
                    3: Your total contribution to this forum, bordering on trolling, seems to have been a collection of snipes, one liners & asterisked expletives





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                    • bobwill
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                      • May 2009
                      • 525

                      #11
                      Like all left wing governments the state is reported to have killed many of its own people some reports over 3 million today's population is 24 million
                      so doubt it would worry to much about a few thousand South Koreans dying

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                      • cactikid
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                        • Sep 2008
                        • 12017

                        #12
                        remember chernobyl that did not mind crossing borders as we all got above normal readings,also sahara dust landing on ireland years ago,yes i do believe it could happen a passenger jet getting shot down? accidents happen and mistakes happen,holiday special see the world before it changes 2 week tour only ?799.95,after that new price will be ?5000 with bring your own life insurance

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                        • tshirtman
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                          • Dec 2008
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by bobwill
                          Like all left wing governments the state is reported to have killed many of its own people

                          you forgot to mention that all right wing governments go overseas and kill millions of innocent people,

                          you only need to look at America and Israel.
                          !retupmoc eht ni deppart m'I !pleH

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                          • caveman_nige
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                            • Feb 2008
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                            #14
                            i looks to me like a little man wanting to be taken seriously and revered for some reason.. I don't think he is entirely 100% behind it all, i tend to think that some of his cohorts are egging him on and writing some of the new procedures and saying things like 'your dad would have done this by now'. He is western educated for the most part and therefore hopefully not a complete idiot but that does not mean he has full control of his ego.

                            Not so long ago when his ole man was still kicking the tired old 'USA want to kill us with their puppets in the south' ball around the park he was known for his willingness to to shoot first. Unprovoked (apparently) he bombarded an island belonging to South Korea with artillery killing many and yet the USA and its supposed South Korean puppets stood by and failed to retaliate. The North also torpedoed and sank a South Korean Navy destroyer and yet the big bad USA and its 'South Korean puppets' did not shoot back.

                            The DPRK does therefore seem to have a propensity for the use of violence which we can agree is more than just the sabre rattling and paranoid rhetoric we get most of the time..

                            To my understanding there was a deal where the north would refrain from its nuclear ambitions and not carry out any further nuclear weapons tests (amongst other things) in return for UN food aid and medicines. So when they (north korea) go and test another nuclear weapon they get upset that the UN has condemned it including their long standing Chinese buddies, further sanctions are therefore levied upon them so they feel the need to start talking war and about launching nuclear weapons upon its usual scapegoats. Now too many people like to blame the yanks but they are just enforcing the UN resolutions as are we with the additional sanctions. The yanks also have treaties in place that have them obligated to protect South Korea and Japan from foreign aggression and i fully expect and support their stance and preparations for this situation.

                            Its all very fashionable to say its the yanks saying this and the yanks saying that, but you can watch enough of north korean TV news broadcasts yourself to realise that they have a screw loose. I watched a piece on telly the other week where some woman had just returned from a trip to the north. She painted an unusual picture of a strange country that takes some believing although she was given a very sanitised tour; we can't perceive for a country and population to exist like that in this modern world that we know of.. When asked if she spoke to any 'normal people' (ordinary citizens to you and me) about anything she said she did after giving her government minders the slip for a while. She was asked by the individual what she did with her time off, when she said that she goes out to watch films with her family and have pizza etc or go the beach the person was confused as she and her fellow citizens were told that westerners spent 99% of time planning the destruction of DPRK. When the woman responded that she would not normally even be thinking about the DPRK other than her current trip etc and this was the case with 99.99999999% of the rest of the world the confusion was there for all (the two of them) to see yet she had no idea who to then believe.

                            tbh i could not give a flying **** about North Korea. If it is blown away then I see it as probably being for the greater good, unfortunately a few hundred thousand will probably have to die for this to happen but I dare say that millions will have a better life afterwards and that geographical area can then settle down for a while, military activity can be wound down and the all the guns and toys moved south ready for the forthcoming showdowns in the south china sea.

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                            • bobwill
                              DK Veteran
                              • May 2009
                              • 525

                              #15
                              Originally Posted by bobwill
                              Like all left wing governments the state is reported to have killed many of its own people




                              you forgot to mention that all right wing governments go overseas and kill millions of innocent people,

                              you only need to look at America and Israel.

                              we where talking about North Korea a Communist state so why would I write about right wing governments
                              I know nobody is allowed to say anything against the left by some on here but you said all right wing governments
                              kill millions of innocent people the only person who came any where near to the left for killing was hitler
                              and he only slaughtered half what Stalin did

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