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  • Kalipo
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    • Mar 2008
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    Tony Blair says murder of Lee Rigby PROVES 'there is a problem within Islam'

    Tony Blair today makes his most powerful political intervention since leaving Downing Street by launching an outspoken attack on ?the problem within Islam?.

    The former Prime Minister addresses the shocking killing of Drummer Lee Rigby in Woolwich by going further than he ? or any front-rank British politician ? has gone before over the issue of Muslim radicalism.

    Writing in today?s Mail on Sunday, he departs from the usual argument that Islam is a peaceful religion that should not be tainted by the actions of a few extremists.


    Instead, Mr Blair urges governments to ?be honest? and admit that the problem is more widespread.

    ?There is a problem within Islam ? from the adherents of an ideology which is a strain within Islam,? he writes.

    ?We have to put it on the table and be honest about it. Of course there are Christian extremists and Jewish, Buddhist and Hindu ones. But I am afraid this strain is not the province of a few extremists. It has at its heart a view about religion and about the interaction between religion and politics that is not compatible with pluralistic, liberal, open-minded societies.?

    He adds: ?At the extreme end of the spectrum are terrorists, but the world view goes deeper and wider than it is comfortable for us to admit. So by and large we don?t admit it.?

    Mr Blair?s comments are likely to be seized on by critics who will argue that by leading us into the Iraq War he has helped to swell support for radical Islam around the globe.

    The former PM?s remarks come as David Cameron prepares to make a Commons statement about the Woolwich murder tomorrow afternoon.

    The statement will come just hours after the first meeting of the Prime Minister?s Tackling Extremism and Radicalisation Task Force (TERFOR) ? made up of senior Ministers, MI5, police and moderate religious leaders ? tomorrow morning.

    Whitehall sources said that it would be a ?preliminary meeting? to draw up the agenda for a full meeting within days. The group, which the Muslim Foreign Office Minister Baroness Warsi, will examine new powers to muzzle hate preachers.

    Mr Cameron?s Commons speech is also expected to address the situation in Syria.

    In his article, Mr Blair, who is trying to establish a Palestinian state through his work as a peace envoy, also addresses the Syrian situation, warning: ?We are at the beginning of this tragedy .***8201;***8201;.***8201;***8201;. Syria is in a state of accelerating disintegration.

    ?President Assad is brutally pulverising communities hostile to his regime.? Mr Blair says that ?the overwhelming desire of the West is to stay out of it?, which he goes on to describe as ?completely understandable?.

    He suggests that ?the problem within Islam? can start to be tackled by ?educating children about faith here and abroad?.

    Sir Malcolm Rifkind, a former Foreign Secretary and chairman of the Parliamentary Intelligence and Security Committee, said: ?Much of what Tony Blair says is sensible.

    ?The Islamic terrorists who kill people have the silent support of many more in their community who share their ideology, if not their methods.

    ?But even combined, they represent only a small minority of British Muslims, and we must never forget that.

    ?However, he appears to be still trying to justify the Iraq War rather than acknowledging that that war provided an unprecedented opportunity for the Sunni and Shia extremists to slaughter so many of their co-religionists.?

    Tony Blair says murder of Lee Rigby PROVES 'there is a problem within Islam' | Mail Online
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  • Kalipo
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    • Mar 2008
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    #2
    Almost forgot

    Tony Blair is the biggest hypocrite to come out with statements like this, For someone who imported more people from Islamic Nations (Terrorists and Hate Preachers included), Incorporated Political Correctness which protected Islam, and of course EU Human Rights to name a few which has prevented us from Jailing and Deporting countless Islamic Extremists from Britain. Do you agree that Blair is as much to blame for Lee Rigbys brutal Murder than anyone ??
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    • GastonJ
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      • Dec 2009
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      #3
      There's only 2 people to blame, so far, for his murder. It's amazing how many politicians and brain dead basseds jump on the bandwagon of using such a tragedy as this for their own means. We have the ing government trying to say that snooping communications would have helped and so trying to introduce failed legislation, we have brain dead ing religious nuts, which Tony Blair is a member of, trying to say it's Islam. We have ing idiots like the EDL trying to play it off as well.

      At the end of the day, there are 2 people to blame, and they will be in court for that as soon as possible I dare say. People whipping up this sort of sh*t will not be a comfort to that poor mans family. Religions don't kill people, f**king idiots kill people, then try the blame game.
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      • Kalipo
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        • Mar 2008
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        #4
        Of course somebody is to blame.. yes i agree the murderers are to blame but they're not the root of the cause.. neither are the EDL nor the BNP..

        Look at what blair did, dragged us though 2 wars.. allowed mass immigration and the likes..

        It would only be like "i blame the parents" comments wouldn't it??

        At the end of the day, blair should be tried for treason and mass murder.. he shouldn't even be alive.. ****ing war criminal he is!
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        • Meat-Head
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          • Oct 2009
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          #5
          Ok will keep it short as we have an amzing moderting team

          thoughy this lee rigby thing started off with an road acccident?

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          • GastonJ
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            • Dec 2009
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            #6
            Ah here we go. In that case blame the League of Nations, had they not drawn up Iraq in the 1920's Blair wouldn't have been able to invade Iraq now would he, so it must be their fault.

            How far would you like to go back in the blame game? The two that have done it are the only ones to blame.
            Last edited by GastonJ; 2 June, 2013, 16:48.
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            • Meat-Head
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              • Oct 2009
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              #7
              Originally posted by GastonJ

              How far would you like to go back in the blame game?
              As far as you can, but would like yo know wgat started wwi

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              • GastonJ
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                • Dec 2009
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                #8
                Pick any war, generally it's so called politicians with their own country's domestic problems that whip hysteria and go to war, at the drop of a hat, to deflect from those problems they were elected to fix (and failed to) and blame someone else for them.

                WW1 - Generally was imperialism and mutual defense pacts. The killing of Archduke Franz Ferdinand gave them the excuse. Don't take my word for it though.
                Last edited by GastonJ; 2 June, 2013, 18:00.
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                • super jumbe
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                  • Dec 2008
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                  #9


                  Grandfather, 75, 'tried to fight off killer' before being stabbed to death outside his home on return from mosque's evening prayers

                  Officers called by ambulance service to Small Heath, Birmingham Pensioner taken to hospital where he was pronounced dead.

                  Victim was father-of-seven Muhammed Saleem Chaudhry, Respected member of community was taking just short walk home Nephew tells how he found his uncle lying in a pool of blood.

                  Grieving daughter says: 'Everyone, old and young, knew him' Shazia Khan says he was stabbed four times in the back.

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                  http://worldobserveronline.com/2013/04/30/grandfather-75-tried-fight-killer-stabbed-death-outside-home-return-mosques-evening-prayers/
                  Is this also some think to do with religian?.
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                  • GastonJ
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                    • Dec 2009
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by super jumbe

                    Is this also some think to do with religian***8230;.
                    Too soon to tell, he could have been robbed, we don't know. I'd almost never pin it on religion - it's an excuse *never* a reason. Another senseless loss to the world.
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                    Despite the cost of living, it's still very popular.
                    No good deed goes unpunished....

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                    • super jumbe
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                      • Dec 2008
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by GastonJ
                      Too soon to tell, he could have been robbed, we don't know. I'd almost never pin it on religion - it's an excuse *never* a reason. Another senseless loss to the world.


                      Stephen LawrenceStephen Lawrence was a Black British man from Eltham, south east London, who was murdered in a racist attack while waiting for a bus on the evening of 22 April 1993. After the initial investigation, five suspects were arrested but not convicted

                      Five suspects were arrested but not convicted
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                      • Kalipo
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                        • Mar 2008
                        • 1687

                        #12
                        Originally posted by GastonJ
                        Ah here we go. In that case blame the League of Nations, had they not drawn up Iraq in the 1920's Blair wouldn't have been able to invade Iraq now would he, so it must be their fault.

                        How far would you like to go back in the blame game? The two that have done it are the only ones to blame.
                        I never said he was to blame, I asked do you agree!

                        Of course we could go back, way back but its not really relevent, Tony blair was a ***** and so was his wife.. they both made sure it was legal to push war on iraq on the basis that saddam hussain had weapons of mass destruction.. which hasn't been found.

                        Lee rigbys killers said they wanted to start war on the streets of britain because of what british soilders have done.

                        Again if british soilders never went to war in iraq he wouldnt of used this excuse?

                        If the country stopped sticking its teeth into everything in the world.. it would be a better place..
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                        • bobwill
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                          • May 2009
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by GastonJ
                          Ah here we go. In that case blame the League of Nations, had they not drawn up Iraq in the 1920's Blair wouldn't have been able to invade Iraq now would he, so it must be their fault.

                          How far would you like to go back in the blame game? The two that have done it are the only ones to blame.
                          If anybodys to blame its the loony left no one was allowed to say any thing about mass immigration and problems it was causing or there are called racists
                          and yes w@nker Blair and that money grabbing wife of his are also to blame ,the labour party for according to mandy
                          for going out to find ethic groups to come to Britain, knowing the loony to blend out the white
                          its a wonder you have not blamed Thatcher you blame her for everything else

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                          • GastonJ
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                            • Dec 2009
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                            #14
                            Aye I've seen programs from the 1950's as well when immigrants were welcomed with open arms by the government to help rebuild Britain, I don't recall anyone holding back on their language back then, up until the 1970's. I'd check which party ran the country during that time, but I already know the answer.... As for it being Tony Blairs fault, I'm sure the delay of 6 years since he left office, and 10 years since the invasion of Iraq must just be a minor detail. They wait 10 years because of Tony? or did it take them that long to walk here?

                            Doesn't matter which politicians are trying to take the high ground, they're all trying to take advantage of some poor soul losing his life and should be ashamed of themselves, but of course they don't do shame or apologies - none of them.
                            Last edited by GastonJ; 2 June, 2013, 20:20.
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                            • GastonJ
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by bobwill
                              its a wonder you have not blamed Thatcher you blame her for everything else
                              I'm saving her up for later don't worry too much - she was guilty of everything and anything.
                              My master plan is to live forever..... going to plan so far
                              Despite the cost of living, it's still very popular.
                              No good deed goes unpunished....

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