France's triumphant 'Joan of Arc' vows to bring back franc and destroy euro

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  • Kalipo
    DK Veteran
    • Mar 2008
    • 1687

    #1

    France's triumphant 'Joan of Arc' vows to bring back franc and destroy euro

    Marine Le Pen is spoiling for a fight. The leader of France's Front National vows to smash the existing order of Europe and force the break-up of monetary union, if she wins the next election.



    It is no longer an implausible prospect. "We cannot be seduced," she said, brimming with confidence after her party secured 46pc of the vote in a by-election earthquake a week ago. Her candidate trounced the ruling Socialists in their own bastion of Villeneuve-sur-Lot.

    "The euro ceases to exist the moment that France leaves, and that is our incredible strength. What are they going to do, send in tanks?" she told the Daily Telegraph at the Front National's headquarters, an unmarked building tucked away in the Paris suburb of Nanterre. Her office is small and workaday, almost austere.

    "Europe is just a great bluff. One side there is the immense power of sovereign peoples, and on the other side are a few technocrats," she said.

    For the first time, the Front National is running level with the two governing parties of post-War France, Socialists and Gaullistes. All are near 21pc in national polls, though the Front alone has the wind in its sails.

    Yet it is the detail in the Villeneuve vote that has shocked the political class. The Front scored highest in the most Socialist cantons, a sign that it may be breaking out of its Right-wing enclaves to become the mass movement of the white working class.



    Commentators have begun to talk of "Left-LePenism" as she outflanks the Socialists with attacks on banks and cross-border capitalism. Anna Rosso-Roig, a candidate for the Communist Party in the 2012 elections, has just defected to the Le Pen camp.

    The Socialists had thought the rising star of Marine Le Pen would work to their advantage, splitting the Right. Now they discern a deadly threat. Industry minister Arnaud Montebourg lashed out last week, blaming Brussels for playing into the hands of the Front National by running roughshod over democracies and pushing austerity a l'outrance.

    Mrs Le Pen said her first order of business on setting foot in the Elysee Palace will be to announce a referendum on EU membership, "rendez vous" one year later. "I will negotiate over the points on which there can be no compromise. If the result is inadequate, I will call for withdrawal," she said.

    The four sticking points are the currency, border control, the primacy of French law, and what she calls "economic patriotism", the power for France to pursue "intelligent protectionism" and safeguard it social model. "I cannot imagine running economic policy without full control over our own money," she said.

    Asked if she intends to pull France of the euro immediately, she said: "Yes, because the euro blocks all economic decisions. France is not a country that can accept tutelage from Brussels," she said.

    Officials will be told to draw up plans for the restoration of the franc. Eurozone leaders will face a stark choice: either work with France for a "sortie concertee" or coordinated EMU break-up: or await their fate.

    Mrs Le Pen fears that other EMU states will resist and let "financial Armaggedon" run its course, but it is a risk that has be taken.

    Her plan is based on a study by economists from l'?cole des Hautes ?tudes in Paris led by Professor Jacques Sapir. It concludes that France, Italy, and Spain would all benefit greatly from EMU-exit, restoring lost labour competitiveness at a stroke without years of depression.

    They say the eurozone's North-South imbalances have already gone beyond the point of no return. Attempts to reverse this by deflation and wage cuts must entail mass unemployment and loss of the industrial core. The current strategy of internal devaluation is self-defeating in any case, since recession causes debt ratios to climb faster.

    Prof Sapir said the gains are greatest in a coordinated break-up with capital controls where central bank intervention steers the new currencies to target levels. The model assumes that the D-Mark and Guilder is held to a 15pc rise against the old euro, while the Franc falls 20pc.

    The gains are less if EMU collapses in acrimony and currencies overshoot. This would inflict a violent deflation shock on Germany, but would still be strongly positive for the Latin bloc.

    "A lot of politicians have been coming to see me, both Gaullistes and Socialists. They agree, but don't want to come out publicly. They want somebody else to take the lead. If Marine Le Pen wishes to use my work, I have no problem," he said.

    Mrs Le Pen is a single mother of 44, more relaxed about gay rights and abortion than she lets on, closer in some ways to the assassinated Dutch populist Pim Fortuyn than to her cantankerous father Jean Le Pen, who stepped down as party leader two years ago. Mr Le Pen in turn deplores her eclectic modernism as an overlay of "petit bourgeois" views picked up in Paris schools.

    She has carried out a quiet purge of the Front, pushing known anti-semites to the sidelines. Vichy nostalgia is out. While her father called the Holocaust an historical "detail", she calls it the "pinnacle of human barbarism". She courts Jewish favour, aiming her fire at Jihadists instead. "Political parties are like people. There is adolescence when you do do crazy things, and then maturity. We are now ready for power," she said.

    This campaign of "d?diabolisation" or image detox seems to have worked. Only a minority of voters still thinks the Front is a "threat to democracy". Mrs Le Pen is winning over white working class women in droves. The feminized Front is no longer the party of the angry white male. The softer image is why finance minister Pierre Moscovici describes her as "more dangerous than her father".

    It is her defence of the French welfare model and her critique of capitalism that gives her a Leftist hue -- some call it 1930s national socialism -- so far in outlook from Britain's UKIP. She sounds like Occupy activists in her attacks on high finance and the way corporations profit from labour arbitrage, playing off wages in the West against cheap labour in Asia. "It is the law of the jungle," she said.

    Nor is she on the UKIP page with her broadsides against Washington and Nato, or her call for France to retake its place as "non-aligned" voice in a multipolar world. It is an anti-Atlanticist patriotism.

    She claims to be the true heir of General Charles de Gaulle, accusing the Gaulliste UMP party of selling its soul to Europe and the Anglo-Saxon order. "There was a de Gaulle of the Left, and a de Gaulle of the Right. There were two de Gaulles. We stand for both," she said.

    Mrs Le Pen said the Socialists are in melt-down, victim of their own subservience to EU economic doctrines, while their barrage of attacks on Germany's Angela Merkel smacks of a dependency syndrome. "They whine about Chancellor Merkel, the wicked enforcer who metes out punishment, but Merkel is merely defending the interests of Germany, which are not the same as ours."

    She said the EMU crisis is structural. North and South need different exchange rates. "The D-Mark would be rising if it were not for the euro, and that means Germany has a chronically undervalued currency. The euro is far too strong for France, and it is eating away our competitiveness," she said.

    It is hard know whether the French people would ever vote en masse for an all-out clash with Europe, let alone for her Jeanne d'Arc messianism. Yet the longer the economic slump goes on, the greater the risk for Brussels and Berlin that French patience will snap, setting off one of those eruptions that have punctuated French history through the ages.

    A recent Pew Foundation survey said French support for the EU Project has collapsed from 60pc to 40pc over the last year, and 77pc think economic integration has been damaging.

    President Francois Hollande says the EMU crisis is "finished" and recovery is at hand, though it is not clear what will break the vicious cycle as France carries out fiscal tightening of 1.8pc of GDP this year and the deepest cuts in half a century. Monetary policy remains contractionary for most of Latin Europe.

    "If the government really tries to force the budget deficit down to 3pc of GDP, the economy will contract again next year by 0.5pc to 0.8pc," said Prof Sapir. "Unemployment will continue rising by 30,000 to 40,000 a month. There may be another 600,000 people without jobs by the end of 2014."

    France endured the same slow torture in the early 1930s under the Gold Standard, stoically accepting the "500 deflation decrees" of premier Pierre Laval. The dam broke in 1936 with the election of spurned outsiders, then the Leftist Front Populaire, with Communist support. The Gold Standard collapsed.

    The emergence of Marine Le Pen as a contender for office in Europe's pivotal power may prove the electric shock needed to force a radical shift in EMU crisis strategy, or at least to force France's Socialist Party to break with Germany and fight for a full reflation agenda, if only to avert its own ruin.

    "We have succumbed to a spirit of slavery in France. We have forgotten how to lead, and our voice is not heard any more," she said. It will be heard now.


    @ Gaston - France's triumphant 'Joan of Arc' vows to bring back franc and destroy euro - Telegraph - TELEGRAPH
    ich bin stolz ein deutscher zu sein.

    Meathead Lufter Verein - iScheitern

  • GastonJ
    V.I.P. Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 5505

    #2
    @ Kalipo, right wing nutter, would be leader of the Tory party in the UK..... I know who she is, I don't need to read it.

    She means they've forgotten how to surrender - it's instinct for the French. Trying to think when they last won a war, and can't.

    OK they haven't won a war in the last 2000 years that I can find, they've caused and surrendered in plenty.

    Oh and if 'Dave' was serious about leaving the EU - all he has to do is invoke article 50.... he doesn't want to, he's playing to the
    Last edited by GastonJ; 2 July, 2013, 00:07. Reason: War update
    My master plan is to live forever..... going to plan so far
    Despite the cost of living, it's still very popular.
    No good deed goes unpunished....

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    • ajax2061
      DK Veteran
      • Nov 2012
      • 395

      #3
      Originally posted by GastonJ
      OK they haven't won a war in the last 2000 years that I can find, they've caused and surrendered in plenty.
      erm 1066 ring any bells.....

      Wars of Charlemagne (768-814)
      Norman Conquest of England (1066)
      First Crusade (1096-99)
      Hundred Years' War (1337-1453)
      War of the Holy League (1508-16)
      Franco-Spanish War (1635)
      Franco-Dutch War (1678)
      War of the Reunions (1683-84)
      War of the Quadruple Alliance (1718-20)
      War of the Austrian Succession (1740-48)
      American Revolutionary War (1775-1783)
      French Revolutionary Wars (1792-1802) (this is not the French Revolution)
      War of the First Coalition (1793-97)
      War of the Second Coalition (1799-1802)
      War of the Oranges (1801)
      War of the Third Coalition (1803-06)
      War of the Fourth Coalition (1806-07)
      War of the Fifth Coalition (1809)
      Greek War of Independence (1821-30)
      French Conquest of Algeria (1830-47)
      Crimean War (1853-56)
      Second Opium War (1856-60)
      Second Italian War of Independence (1859)
      Mandingo Wars (1883-98)
      Sino-French War (1884-85)
      First Franco-Dahomean War (1890)
      Second Franco-Dahomean War (1892-94)
      Franco-Siamese War (1893)
      Boxer Rebellion (1899-1901)
      Wadai War (1909-11)
      World War I (1914-18)
      Rif War (1920)
      World War II (1939-45)
      Gulf War (1990-91)


      Put it this way, France has probably contributed more to the military than any other nation in history. France invented the modern military ranking system we know today and invented most modern-day military tactics. Napoleon himself invented the "Corps" which is still used today (i.e. US Marine "Corps")

      Cavalry - French word
      Infantry - French word
      Melee - French word
      Volley - French word
      Soldier - French word
      Troop - French word
      Corps - French word
      Division - French word
      Musket - French word
      Musketeer - French word
      Pistol - French word
      Sergeant - French word
      General - French word
      Lieutenant - French word
      Captain - French word
      Colonel - French word
      Corporal - French word
      Marshal - French word
      Commander - French word
      Officer - French word
      Company - French word
      Platoon - French word
      Brigade - French word
      Armor - French word
      Archer - French word
      Battle - French word
      Alliance - French word
      Machine - French word
      Car - French word
      Army - French word
      Military - French word

      Please note some listed they didn't win by themselves but ended on the winning side even if they was bailed out by others ie WW2

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      • Shady
        Shite Link King
        • Dec 2010
        • 6404

        #4
        Well... the normans werent french for a start, and world war 2???? half of them surrendered or ran away and the other half collaborated with the nazis.. hardly WINNING
        Fave replies from various threads

        1: What the fff is all that about??? All that crap below your reply I mean, get a life mate
        2: no info on google abt the pace sv5 rang asda they have no idea what i was talking about,
        3: Your total contribution to this forum, bordering on trolling, seems to have been a collection of snipes, one liners & asterisked expletives





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        • Meat-Head
          V.I.P. Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 32000

          #5
          Cool only down side us the time travelers will need the new/old washers to spend

          never understood why get rid of the frog franc, irish punt, german crout mark etc

          would have been more fun fir collectors and enviromently better had it been all same face value

          eg Xavia could spend it 5 franc in eireland to buy a 5 punt bottle of wine from Pat

          then Manwell from italy spend his 10 Potato note with Adolf in germany for a 10 crout mark knuckle duster

          no waste making new coins

          sigpicWas Banned For Being Certifiably Insane and Stupid

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          • GastonJ
            V.I.P. Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 5505

            #6
            Originally posted by Meat-Head


            no waste making new coins
            So how would the bankers (w@nkers) make money if we all had that attitude eh? Good god you don't want them up all night worrying where the next million plus bonus will come from do you, think of their poor families they might have to actually water the lawn with Asda brand water because they didn't have enough money to buy Buxton water. Get a grip man!
            My master plan is to live forever..... going to plan so far
            Despite the cost of living, it's still very popular.
            No good deed goes unpunished....

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            • Meat-Head
              V.I.P. Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 32000

              #7
              So you go on vacation fir a week ir two, to find me the deepest ocean to drop this iShit in

              you need to kog on dk, eat, drink

              say bread ?1. And milk say ?1. But dyring your vacation your milk and bread price varieys with exchace rate of the grout verses pound
              a
              fir the bankers they earn enough money as it is, so bolllod to them

              sigpicWas Banned For Being Certifiably Insane and Stupid

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