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  • wongers
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 734

    #1

    marine found guilty

    A Royal Marine has been found guilty of murdering an Afghan fighter, who had been seriously wounded by an Apache attack helicopter.
    A court martial in Bulford, Wiltshire, found that the serviceman - known only as Marine A - shot the insurgent, who was armed with an AK47, in the chest with a 9mm pistol in Helmand Province more than two years ago.
    Two other Marines - referred to as Marines B and C - were acquitted.
    All will remain anonymous until the court martial or a judge decides otherwise.
    The three men had denied murdering the unknown captured Afghan national on or about September 15, 2011, contrary to Section 42 of the Armed Forces Act 2006.
    But a seven-strong board, consisting of officers and non-commissioned officers, convicted Marine A following a two-week trial.
    Marine A shot the Afghan national in the chest at close range before quoting a phrase from Shakespeare as the man convulsed and died in front of him.
    "There you are. Shuffle off this mortal coil, you ****. It's nothing you wouldn't do to us," Marine A told the insurgent.
    He then turned to comrades and said: "Obviously this doesn't go anywhere, fellas. I just broke the Geneva Convention."
    The insurgent's body was left where he died and was later taken by locals, who erected a memorial in its place. No post-mortem was conducted.
    The killing came to light as it was filmed by a camera mounted on the helmet of Marine B.
    Judge Advocate General Jeff Blackett ruled that the graphic video footage cannot be released, but agreed that the audio could be made public.
    The video, which was played to the court, shows Marine A walking forward, bending down, and shooting the man at close range in the centre of his chest.
    Giving evidence to the court martial, Marine A insisted he believed the insurgent was dead at the time and he was simply shooting into a corpse in anger.
    Also released were excerpts from a diary kept by Marine C, including one extract that relates to the moments of the shooting.
    Brigadier Bill Dunham told of the Royal Marine Corps' reaction to the verdict.
    He said: "It is matter of profound regret in this isolated incident that one Marine failed to apply his training and discharge his responsibilities.
    "What we've heard in the last two weeks is not consistent with the ethos, values and standards of the Royal Marines.
    "It was a truly shocking and appalling aberration. It should not have happened and it should never happen again."
    Judge Blackett told Marine A: "Marine A, this court has found you guilty of murder. The mandatory sentence prescribed by law is imprisonment for life.
    "This court now has to determine the minimum term you will serve before you are eligible for release.
    "In the meantime, I direct that you are to be taken into custody."
    Marine A will be sentenced on December 6.
  • super jumbe
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    • Dec 2008
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    #2
    Caught up with the (law) he will just have to serve time, mind you I thought they were fighting a war were does crime come in???
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    • johnboy1974
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      • Dec 2008
      • 3418

      #3
      Originally posted by super jumbe
      Caught up with the (law) he will just have to serve time, mind you I thought they were fighting a war were does crime come in???
      Even if there is a war going on, there's rules to be followed. That's why we have folk charged with war crimes and a geneva convention. What happened here was murder plain and simple. War or no war.


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      • Bulld0g
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        • Apr 2008
        • 7158

        #4
        Totally agree with John, murder plain and simple. Tw@ Don't stoop to their levels.

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        • ifred
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          • Jun 2010
          • 1627

          #5
          Originally posted by johnboy1974
          Even if there is a war going on, there's rules to be followed. That's why we have folk charged with war crimes and a geneva convention. What happened here was murder plain and simple. War or no war.


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          If that's the case then there a lot more people further ahead in the queue for prosecution at least every still living US president and Uk PM should be on the list.
          No lets select a possible hero "had completed six tours of Northern Ireland, Iraq and Afghanistan," I'd give him a bagful of medals and a honourable pardon.....Even the f**** nobel prize Obama got given. If one of your buddies or kids got blown up and their bits hung in trees.....what would you do!!
          The man was suffering persistent and current traumatic stress -help and support not vilification
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          • gc1966
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            • Mar 2011
            • 2434

            #6
            Originally posted by ifred
            If that's the case then there a lot more people further ahead in the queue for prosecution at least every still living US president and Uk PM should be on the list.
            No lets select a possible hero "had completed six tours of Northern Ireland, Iraq and Afghanistan," I'd give him a bagful of medals and a honourable pardon.....Even the f**** nobel prize Obama got given. If one of your buddies or kids got blown up and their bits hung in trees.....what would you do!!
            The man was suffering persistent and current traumatic stress -help and support not vilification
            maybe so,but the insurgent was wounded and in no position to fight,it was to all intents and purposes an execution,no prime minister or president has stood over an enemy and dispatched him whilst acknowledging disregard for the Geneva convention (am prepared to accept dick cheney for shooting an innocent).he will get all the psychological help he needs now.

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            • Meat-Head
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              • Oct 2009
              • 32000

              #7
              Originally posted by wongers
              A Royal Marine has been found guilty of murdering an Afghan fighter, who had been seriously wounded by an Apache attack helicopter.

              shot the insurgent, who was armed with an AK47, in the chest with a 9mm pistol in Helmand Province more than two years ago.

              No post-mortem was conducted.

              The killing came to light as it was filmed by a camera mounted on the helmet of Marine B.

              the graphic video footage cannot be released,
              but agreed that the audio could be made public.

              .

              Err hang on folks

              1) Who was flying the helecopter, 'Marine A'?

              2) If the guy was badly damaged, what what to say he was beyond economical repair?

              3) What would it have mattered if the guy died as soon a the Apache turned up?

              4) What if like the guy said Afganistan man did fire his WD40 and kill the 3 Marines?

              5) More than 2 years ago, is he still dead?

              5A) No post mortem, so he could have died from something else.

              6) Why did Marine B not delete the evidence, did he upload it to youtuba and get found
              out or something.

              7) WTF not showing the footage, spent HOURS looking on heavy-r for it

              8) Does this thread not mean anything?
              Code:
               [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/9275712/Afghan-war-will-cost-British-taxpayers-20-billion-by-time-mission-is-complete.html]Afghan war will cost British taxpayers ?20 billion by time mission is complete - Telegraph[/url]
              9) Feel free to stamp on the report button if you wish

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              • maca
                Mr. DK DJ
                • Feb 2009
                • 6310

                #8
                Thing is if our stupid lying mp's never sent these soldiers in the first place this would'nt have happened ....

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                • Meat-Head
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32000

                  #9
                  Originally posted by maca
                  Thing is if our stupid lying mp's never sent these soldiers in the first place this would'nt have happened ....

                  Yes second that.

                  Good question what is/was this war about anyway, what would have happened if be didn't go in?

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                  • ifred
                    DK Veteran
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 1627

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Meat-Head
                    Err hang on folks


                    4) What if like the guy said Afganistan man did fire his WD40 and kill the 3 Marines?


                    Meat.
                    Your on to something here Meat, is this the WMD that fonyLiar was looking for the...... WD40
                    A lot of good people have been wasted on this fiasco just to make a big profit for a few warmongers...IMO
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                    • Kalipo
                      DK Veteran
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1687

                      #11
                      He's Innocent..

                      Wrongfully convicted. As this person would of done what they done to him!

                      A soldier cant be convicted for murder in war! its war ffs. if anything the government should be convicted!

                      Messed up nancy pansy laws.. oh he stole my ly pop its my human right.. pansy dufs
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                      • Kalipo
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                        • Mar 2008
                        • 1687

                        #12
                        He's Innocent..

                        Wrongfully convicted. As this person would of done what they done to him!

                        A soldier cant be convicted for murder in war! its war ffs. if anything the government should be convicted!

                        Messed up nancy pansy laws.. oh he stole my ly pop its my human right.. pansy dufs
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                        • super jumbe
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                          • Dec 2008
                          • 11610

                          #13
                          Originally posted by gc1966
                          no prime minister or president has stood over an enemy and dispatched him whilst acknowledging disregard for the Geneva convention.
                          HA HA HA So did Hittleer, Saddaam, Varankaraji, did not see them in the battlefield so why were they convicted???
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                          • Cod3waX
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1011

                            #14
                            Law in War is stupid it turns the battle into a game

                            WAR = The most expensive games every played

                            But then i think if there was no law in war then we would have been finished off by the Big Red Button along time ago

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                            • ifred
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                              • Jun 2010
                              • 1627

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cod3waX
                              Law in War is stupid it turns the battle into a game

                              WAR = The most expensive games every played

                              But then i think if there was no law in war then we would have been finished off by the Big Red Button along time ago
                              The only law in warfare is winner takes all, afterall they defeated the other.....?
                              Hang on a minute we won WWII why is the German who were defeated now almost rule all of Europe!!!?
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