EU exit would be dreadful for Britain, says Major

[Meat-Head]

I'm sure We are one of if not the only country to sit in the EU to actually abide by every single rule! no other country in the EU has 100% abide by the rules.

Even if we do leave and we do set up a trade agreement and have rules imposed, it will be no different to what we are already doing.. Look at china, they have appalling human rights, but because we want to trade with them and visa versa, we turn a blind eye to it!

The EU WILL allow rules to be broken!

Yeah them goat, pig , chekin, elephant farming 10 years grace to get sorted here in Ingland all compliyed farmers in Spain no care

[Kalipo]

BBC News - David Cameron defends China trade mission

British Prime Minister David Cameron has defended his trade mission to China after criticism in the Chinese media.

One state-run newspaper cast doubt on the "sincerity" of Mr Cameron's diplomacy amid ongoing anger about his meeting last year with the Dalai Lama.

And it suggested China did not need better relations with the UK as it was no longer a "big country".
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Mr Cameron said the trip had seen ?6bn in trade deals and "substantial discussions" with China's leaders.

In a strongly-worded editorial, the nationalist Global Times newspaper said Mr Cameron was motivated by "self-interest" and expressed anger over the UK's stance on Hong Kong politics and Beijing's air zone row with Japan, as well as the Dalai Lama issue.

"The UK is highly 'replaceable' in China's Europe diplomacy," said the newspaper.

"The UK is no longer any so-called 'big country'... it is an old European country suitable for travel and study abroad, with a few good football teams."

David Cameron's attempt at Mandarin was met with applause

Other newspapers joined in with the criticism, fuelled by anger over access to British visas, although some welcomed efforts to improve bi-lateral trade relations.

Mr Cameron, who is on the second of a three-day visit to the country with more than 100 British business people, dismissed the attacks.

He told BBC News: "I must have missed the bit about the football teams. I would just prefer to go on the figures.

"This is a visit that has delivered almost ?6bn worth of deals. It is a visit that comes on the back of an eighteen month period where we have seen more Chinese investment into Britain in the last 18 months than in the previous 30 years.

And also it is a visit where we have seen very good, high level, substantial discussions both with the premier and with the president - the premier who described the partnership as indispensable. So I will stick with the facts and the figures."
Prime Minister David Cameron walks along The Bund in Shanghai with Lisa Pan, Vice President of Rekoo, one of Asia"s largest social gaming companies, David Cameron with gaming firm Rekoo's vice president Lisa Pan in Shanghai

He added: "You don't have to know all the facts and figures about China to know that China's economic rise is going to play a huge role in the world and Britain should be in there pitching for business, pitching for investment, pitching for deals, securing jobs at home."

Among the latest trade deals to be announced are a ?120m agreement to give UK healthcare firms access to the Chinese market and an agreement to allow British film makers greater access to China's heavily-restricted, but rapidly expanding, domestic cinema market.
The PM met Matthew Forbes with the 'War Horse' from the West End Show at the Shanghai Exhibition Centre The PM met Matthew Forbes with the 'War Horse' from the West End Show at the Shanghai Exhibition Centre

Mr Cameron has also used the trade mission to bang the drum for an EU-China free trade deal.

Speaking after a meeting with Chinese Premier Li Keqiang on Monday, he said: "Some in Europe and elsewhere see the world changing and want to shut China off behind a bamboo curtain of trade barriers. Britain wants to tear those trade barriers down."

He added: "I've said to Premier Li that I will champion an EU-China trade deal with as much determination as I'm championing the EU-US trade deal."

David Cameron has promised to create a "partnership for growth and reform" as he visits China on a trade mission with more than 100 UK business leaders

But a spokesman for the European Commission rejected Mr Cameron's call, saying the EU and China were already discussing a possible investment agreement and should stick to that for now.

"We believe that it is premature at this stage to discuss a free-trade agreement with China," the spokesman added.
Prime Minister David Cameron sits in a London black cab with Geely Chairman Li Shufu who intends to operate London taxis in Shanghai. London's black cabs could soon be operating in Shanghai

There is resistance to a free trade deal in some EU nations, amid fears it will open the door to a flood of cheap imports.

Mr Cameron has also been promoting Britain's universities to Chinese students.

"It is very important for you to know that there is no limit, no artificial limit, to the number of students who can study in Britain," he told an audience of students at Shanghai Jiao Tong University

"You have to have an English qualification and a place at at British university and then you are welcome."

Mr Cameron told the students he had raised human rights issues in his talks with Chinese leaders, although he did not mention Tibet in the list of global hot spots he said they had discussed.
David Cameron meets Shanghai's mayor Yang Xiong The UK prime minister held talks with Shanghai's mayor Yang Xiong

He also joked about the weekly "torture" of prime minister's question time in the Commons, but added that it was an important "test" that kept prime ministers "on their mettle".

And he said efforts were under way to set up a "joint shop window" so that Chinese tourists could apply for a British visa at the same time as applying for a Schengen visa, which grants them access to the rest of the EU.

"We need to make it easier for you, in terms of the visa situation, and we are working on a solution," he said.


EVEN THE BBC ARE IMPLYING THE EU IS A STRAIGHTJACKET!!

[Meat-Head]

BBC News - David Cameron defends China trade mission

British Prime Minister David Cameron has defended his trade mission to China after criticism in the Chinese media.

One state-run newspaper cast doubt on the "sincerity" of Mr Cameron's diplomacy amid ongoing anger about his meeting last year with the Dalai Lama.

And it suggested China did not need better relations with the UK as it was no longer a "big country".
Continue reading the main story
?Start Quote

Mr Cameron's promise now to 'respect' and 'understand' China is the price he has had to pay to thaw what was a diplomatic deep freeze ?

image of Nick Robinson Nick Robinson Political editor

Read more from Nick

Mr Cameron said the trip had seen ?6bn in trade deals and "substantial discussions" with China's leaders.

David Cameron's attempt at Mandarin was met with applause

Mr Cameron, who is on the second of a three-day visit to the country with more than 100 British business people, dismissed the attacks.

"This is a visit that has delivered almost ?6bn worth of deals. It is a visit that comes on the back of an eighteen month period where we have seen more Chinese investment into Britain in the last 18 months than in the previous 30 years.

He added: "You don't have to know all the facts and figures about China to know that China's economic rise is going to play a huge role in the world and Britain should be in there pitching for business, pitching for investment, pitching for deals, securing jobs at home."

Among the latest trade deals to be announced are a ?120m agreement to give UK healthcare firms access to the Chinese market and an agreement to allow British film makers greater access to China's heavily-restricted, but rapidly expanding, domestic cinema market.

Mr Cameron has also used the trade mission to bang the drum for an EU-China free trade deal.

David Cameron has promised to create a "partnership for growth and reform" as he visits China on a trade mission with more than 100 UK business leaders

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w@nker just having a jolly at Inglish peoples expense, so he can get the tax and vat made by the Polish, Lativan and Romainan workeers at the IMPORT centers

Did read somethine ago that Europe says you can only import x amoutn of stuuff per year if your not in the EEC, but china made such a massive amount of socks or something, they said to the eec "We love you long time, we made theses socks now, me so horny" and that was it, market flood with china made socks

Think we should get these guys to decide

Joe Strummer,Mick Jones Paul Simonon Nicky "Topper" Headon Terry Chimes Keith Levene
Rob Harper
Pete Howard
Nick Sheppard
Vince White

[Kalipo]

Say Meathead! you need to complain to your local MP.. who will then contact your euro mp who will then contact your unelected president who will then tell nobody because hes too busy on dk..

[Meat-Head]

Say Meathead! you need to complain to your local MP.. who will then contact your euro mp who will then contact your unelected president who will then tell nobody because hes too busy on dk..

OFF TOPIC:-

No mate he's a useless git with girly curly hair.

In short here in M/C the Council are planning a mod to the roads, basically there making a new one, but instead of leaving the old road for ambulances, the busses, and general use it's getting bricked up, pointless waste of money it's just going to screw the traffic up if the new road has an accidnet on it.

Emailed the local MP (Arnold Rimmer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) he said was "Do you live in Meat-City, what's your address" - of course i live here why else would i care about a road getting bricked up.

Could punch the tawt

[ifred]

We should make the Chinese and the EU pay us roylaties for using the English language how can they trade international without it, its all Greek, German and flied rice no16 to me
they'd have nothing to say for sure!

[Meat-Head]

Say Meathead! you need to complain to your local MP.. who will then contact your euro mp who will then contact your unelected president who will then tell nobody because hes too busy on dk..

ON AND OFF TOPIC:-

I emailed Arnold the other day about another thread, so far the tosser hasn't replied, genuine valid post as well, must have been ok, Moderators didn't delete my post about it.

[ifred]

ON AND OFF TOPIC:-

I emailed Arnold the other day about another thread, so far the tosser hasn't replied, genuine valid post as well, must have been ok, Moderators didn't delete my post about it.

Why don't you send him one of those PRC singing xmas cards that instead of bursting into "ring, ding a ding" go flash pop and burst into flames that were going around the Dk market place.... Claimed to be fault IMO they were designed by some humbug engineer. I feel sure your'l get a reply, a holiday and free grub!! The moderators might throw in a free brain washing as a xmas prezzie ....beats a pair of socks or a Rudolf cardigan (mind you the latter would piss of the mods as they would like one)