Patients 'Should Pay ?10 NHS Membership Fee'

[super jumbe]

People should pay a ?10-a-month fee to use the NHS and "hotel-style charges" for stays in hospital, according to former Labour health minister Lord Warner.

He said the radical measures were needed to help fund the NHS which is struggling to meet the needs of an ageing population and more people suffering from long-term conditions.

In a report co-written by Lord Warner, it is estimated that a monthly ?10 charge for using the NHS alongside other measures could generate ?6bn a year.

Lord Warner said: "We can no longer pay homage to an out-of-date and unaffordable NHS that's unfit for today's and tomorrow's care needs.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/patients-pay-10-nhs-membership-fee-005203614.html#LVxaiGg

[super jumbe]

Those old people are not going to hospital for a month holiday, they going because they need treatment.

Blame the ageing population, old people have worked and paid thousands in national insurance contributions and there is no rewards to the agreements, a bit hash ?10 a month fee to use NHS and patients should also be charged ?20 for every night they stay in hospital were is this money going to come from most pensioners are already broke.

What about the births to mums over 50 were are they going to get this kind of money.
There are lots of ways to collect revenue, charge people the full cost for vaccinations for people going on holidays, etc.

[Meat-Head]

Depends on circumstances if a person is walking down the road singing do way diddy dum diddy day and a sign falls on them, no charge.


if you get an impatient bmw driver who is involved in an accident, no matter if there fault or not yes full wack.


the imported people who don't want to pay anything because you haven't fixed their car, but spent two hours proving to them the fault and why, they should be charged ?150 up front to walk into the door.


like that skin eating diesese that here in ingland, you can get it from bus seat, in the air not nice

[GastonJ]

Yeah charge ?10 by all means. However the paperwork and administration will cost ?11 to collect each ?10. The Conservative government looked at this in the 90's, that's why each NHS hospital has a "Hotel Services" department. The thought back then was that you should pay roughly the same amount per night on your stay as you would a comfortable hotel, hence the name. Sorry I pay tax and NI and have done for the last 30+ years - if any government is going to change that and charge me ?10 a month I'd like a ?10 a month refund on my tax and NI.

It's out of date and un-affordable because successive kin governments keep piling paperwork on it to the extent that they have to employ "managers" to fill out the bloody paperwork to prove they've covered their rear ends in paperwork. Who do they think

Contracts for services
Cooks meals
Cleans the hospitals
Plans hospitals
Builds hospitals
Maintains the hospitals
Purchases all the goods
and all the other sh*t associated with a large corporation? because that's what they are, they have to comply with the same laws as large companies.

Hands up all those that think doctors and nurses do all that as a side job when not treating patients fgs? Stupid MP's without a clue :headbang:

[super jumbe]

100% agree Gaston we are all getting old and we are being robbed with our eyes open, every year NI, Road Tax, Vat, Council tax, etc, all that revenue keeps going up but they are always in shortfall, we should have option to either pay the taxes or not to pay taxes and allow uis to sort our self out.

[rds60h]

Your Taxes and National Insurance are meant to pay for this, so make a start there..........................No Contributions, then No Treatment without Payment.
There is also another clue in the title of NHS.............National Health Service, so if you are not a British National then No Treatment without Payment.
If we go abroad including within the EU we pay, so why should it be any different for anyone coming here ?

[GastonJ]

Hate to say again but foreign patients already pay, they are billed and debts chased like any other debtor. It's nothing new.

As for the ?10, I wish UK governments wouldn't look to New Zealand as a role model. Don't recall the cost but I seem to recall people I know there pay either $25 or $50 for a doctors appointment.

[M T Glass]

Same here in Ire land, ( my spelling), 75 euro per day if you use bed in ward. No charge for day on trolley.

[Meat-Head]

FFS what if you had an emergency labotomy

[super jumbe]

FFS what if you had an emergency labotomy

Only solution it goes with any country no money you are history!!!

[rds60h]

Hate to say again but foreign patients already pay, they are billed and debts chased like any other debtor. It's nothing new.

As for the ?10, I wish UK governments wouldn't look to New Zealand as a role model. Don't recall the cost but I seem to recall people I know there pay either $25 or $50 for a doctors appointment.

It is supposed to happen, but as usual it is left to those on the front line to do all the paperwork and questioning and so often is just by-passed or left until later and ends up not being done.
The National Identity Card system came under fire and was dropped, which is a shame because it would then have just been a case of ID card, treatment available, no ID card, payment required.
Plus there would be plenty of other applications that the ID card could have fast-tracked and/or utilised for entitlement.

[gopher7]

It will end up like America, if you don't have health insurance, no treatment.

[gmb45]

load of pish, so is this 10 token membership per person ? if it is then a family with 2 kids is expected to pay 40 tokens a month more ( assuming there is 2 parents in the family ) ?, not happening. perhaps stop paying 12bn into the eu every year will have enuff money to sort the nhs oot in a few years.

[Snowy79]

Start by billing those that fail to turn up or cancel an appointment without a valid excuse.

[ifred]

I think the consultants should be paying .....to the patients a recommendation fee of ?10 each time!
After all they'd be out of a job without them