Scottish Independence

[johnboy1974]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UORUvYiconI

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[busaman]

Of course nobody in Scotland works, we are an industrial wasteland. Play bagpipes all day long and eat haggis everyday. I just can't figure out why Westminster is so keen to hold onto Scotland.


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oil & gas. maybe whisky or haggis i dont know.?? my girlfriend is scottish and she doesnt want it but then she looks a bit deeper into things than most, and as she says its been ok for 300 odd years so why break up a marriage that works.

[PremierD]

Did she ever tell you about the Highland Clearances mate ... where the ..." Better together fuds" decided that sheep were of more use then people in their quest wipe out the Jacobites and of course turn a profit ... ? and you believe that its in our benefit to still be ruled by the aforementioned Bampots whose National anthem ffs has the verse "May he sedition hush,: and like a torrent rush,: Rebellious Scots to crush, . "and you wonder why we want to get the **** away from you ...

[johnboy1974]

oil & gas. maybe whisky or haggis i dont know.?? my girlfriend is scottish and she doesnt want it but then she looks a bit deeper into things than most, and as she says its been ok for 300 odd years so why break up a marriage that works.

The marraige doesn't work mate in Scotland we've been governed by the Tories for 33 years and we didn't vote them in. There's more pandas in Scotland than Tory mp,s, so how can the Tories best represent Scotland?. We cannot achieve our full potential in the Scottish parliament as the fiscal control is governed from London. We want to do so much more for our people but are financially restricted by Westminster, this despite the fact we are one of the richest countries in the world.
We want want more accountability from our mp's the only way we can achieve that is to ensure we get the mp's in power that we voted for.

My own two main reasons for voting are that I want scottish mp's that we voted for running Scottish affairs. Who better to do that than people that live and work in Scotland.
My second reason is that I want rid of trident nuclear weapons. I want my children to live in a Scotland that rejects these gross weapons of mass destruction and tell the world that we are a peaceful nation and send these weapons back to London.


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[johnboy1974]

oil & gas. maybe whisky or haggis i dont know.?? my girlfriend is scottish and she doesnt want it but then she looks a bit deeper into things than most, and as she says its been ok for 300 odd years so why break up a marriage that works.

Oil and gas- goddam it you got it in one.


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[PremierD]

We may have only 30 to 40 years of oil left ... but with a bit of luck its more than the 4 days supply that you have ...

[darrenhyland]

We may have only 30 to 40 years of oil left ... but with a bit of luck its more than the 4 days supply that you have ...

Absolutley ****ing cracking statement Prem..............fell off my chair laughing

[johnboy1974]

We may have only 30 to 40 years of oil left ... but with a bit of luck its more than the 4 days supply that you have ...

Yeah that's what they want us to think, there's an estimated 100 million barrels in the Clyde estuary. Drilling permits were vetoed by Michael hesiltine in 1981 due to the close proximity of the faslane base. 100 million barrels is equal to 100 years. The decreasing demand for oil means this oil needs extracting now and put into an oil fund for the future.
When it comes to oil believe nothing Westminster says. In 1979 they deceived the Scottish public by telling them the same sheight they are now ie there's only a few years left the price fluctuates too much blah blah blah. In actual they were sitting on a report by a leading industry professor Gavin mcrone. In his report he stated that Scotland would not only be a wealthy nation with the taxation from the oil but that it would be embarrassingly rich. Westminster buried that report and it was only found by a freedom of information request which now brings it to the public domain. Go google it, the mcrone report is available to read on Wikipedia too.
The relevancy of this report is that it shows Westminster will lie and deceive to protect their oil revenues no way do they want it to go to Scotland.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCrone_report

https://www.facebook.com/McCroneReport

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[ifred]

Why would Scotland get a bad credit rating. The debt is owed by restUK not Scotland. Can you explain this please.


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A little history
As the Darien company was backed by 25%-50% of all the money circulating in Scotland,^[2] its failure left nobles, landowners ? who had suffered a run of bad harvests ? as well as town councils and many ordinary tradespeople^[2] almost completely ruined and was an important factor in weakening their resistance to the Act of Union (completed in 1707).
i.e we bailed you out then the debt must be a tidy sum forgotten by Salmond

[Snowy79]

So a Company set up by a few Landowners gambled our money. Gets my vote . Those poor landowners who'd been given the lands on the backs of the Scottish.

[johnboy1974]

A little history
As the Darien company was backed by 25%-50% of all the money circulating in Scotland,^[2] its failure left nobles, landowners ? who had suffered a run of bad harvests ? as well as town councils and many ordinary tradespeople^[2] almost completely ruined and was an important factor in weakening their resistance to the Act of Union (completed in 1707).
i.e we bailed you out then the debt must be a tidy sum forgotten by Salmond

Scotland has more than paid its way as net contributors to the uk economy we owe the uk nothing.


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[johnboy1974]

Scotland has more than paid its way as net contributors to the uk economy we owe the uk nothing.
If rUK don't want to share the assets which we contributed to then they cannot expect Scotland to be liable for its debts. Will you be happy to let Scotland start its new independent life debt free whilst you take on Scotland's interest payments?.

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[ifred]

The truth is were all Effing broke I just don't remember spending the money

[gaz306]

More than three decades ago the people of Scotland were promised a 'better form of devolution' in return for a No vote in 1979. Instead they were given 18 years of Thatcherism , see what that got us ,And now this is the aforementioned bampots lying again .

[jaws2]

i found with politicians a lot these days, its not about the people its about themselves.