NHS Paid ?3,258 For One Doctor's A&E Shift

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The figures were obtained by a Freedom of Information request.

Some 75 out of the 140 trusts replied to questions about how their emergency departments were staffed between 24 December 2014 and 1 January.

In February this year, MPs on the Public Accounts Committee claimed senior A&E doctors were profiting from staff shortages by working for locum agencies.

Experts said that competition between hospitals to fill shifts during what was the busiest Christmas period on record meant that the prices being charged by locum agencies soared.

Dr Clifford Mann, president of the Royal College of Emergency Medicine, said: "Market forces really are quite extreme currently, with the lack of permanent people to employ.

"It means hospitals are desperate to try to find people to fill these slots and are having to pay super premium rates for that to happen.

"It can be very demoralising to be working alongside somebody with much less experience, much more junior, who is earning a multiple income compared to you in terms of the pounds paid per hour."

Mick Corti, of the London Procurement Partnership which negotiates on behalf of the capital's hospitals to drive costs down, said that agencies were sometimes collecting fees of up to ?100 an hour before paying the doctors and nurses themselves.
"There is almost competition on what you are able to pay and by paying more you think you can increase the supply of the agency nurse or doctor, but you are not - you are pinching that nurse or doctor from wherever else they might have worked and then they have a problem.

"You get an inflationary spiral where one trust is competing against another, and that is what the NHS needs to move away from and try to hold firm. Pay appropriate rates and stick to it."


:: Top Five Doctor Payments:
United Lincolnshire NHS Trust -- ?3,257
Royal Cornwall Hospitals NHS Trust -- ?2,142
Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust -- ?2,099
Croydon Health Services -- ?2,000
University Hospital South Manchester -- ?1,625
:: Top Five Nurse Payments:
Royal Berkshire NHS Foundation Trust -- ?1,875
Derby Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust -- ?1,798
North Bristol NHS Trust -- ?1,728
West Middlesex University Hospital -- ?1,462
University Hospitals of Leicester -- ?1,416

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[GastonJ]

"You get an inflationary spiral where one trust is competing against another, and that is what the NHS needs to move away from and try to hold firm. Pay appropriate rates and stick to it."

And how do they expect to do this? They have the government trying to carve up the NHS to privatise quite a large chunk, if not all. The DOH/monitor have Trusts competing with each other financially and on results. Above that the government has allowed Foundation Trusts the ability to generate more income from private work - more money for them as the government cuts down on what it pays anyway. On top of that you have 'private' hospital/clinics offering doctors more money. The government holding NHS pay increases to 1% or nothing in some cases.

Sorry so how do the NHS keep down prices when the government is driving people away to make a living, while at the same time trying to 'prove' that the NHS would be better if their mates made a profit from it?

Oh I almost forgot the government/DOH is expecting the NHS to save the ?20 billion that it set to be saved in 2010, despite 'ring fencing funding' - I can't work it out either "We're not going to cut the budget, but we want you to save "?20 billion over the 5 years"....

Oh and

London Procurement Partnership

aren't making a very good job of it then are they.

[Meat-Head]

OFF TOPIC:-


Once upon a time a courier got a call, go from TIM buck two, 30 miles to RAF Nottingham, collect an item.


passport, Id, hostage, white flag, get past securuty .


goez to door given a washer, as in round metal with a hole, take it to RAF Cornwall (sone where near)


He got the idea off George Harrison, driove all night, handed this washer over.


wgat happened nobody entitled to go to b&q and get 20p washer nothing special.


tge courier billed RAF ?320+VAT And drove happily ever after to the bank.




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Now is there any job cards from this locus doctor? They might have saved a duffer from getting faulty causing nhs to pay out more.

[GastonJ]

It's the going rate, think of agencies as private companies, it's what the government wants to do, pay the private companies the going rate for work. I seem to recall that people were complaining that NHS staff aren't worthy f a decent pay rise, maybe it's time for a rethink when faced with the alternative cost from the private sector... Would be a very costly year if the public sector workers refused any type of overtime.

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?3,258 peanuts when doctors earn more then 20000k annum, should be entitle more then the figure sagest!!!!!

[GastonJ]

?3,258 peanuts when doctors earn more then 20000k annum, should be entitle more then the figure sagest!!!!!

Oddly enough I know quite a few doctors and surgeons and none of them have ever earned ?20,000,000 that you're quoting. Unsure which fairy tales you're reading, are they by Hans Christian Anderson or that other daily fairy tales, the Daily Mail and Daily Express?

[teerak2uk]

More like 200k

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Oddly enough I know quite a few doctors and surgeons and none of them have ever earned ?20,000,000 that you're quoting. Unsure which fairy tales you're reading, are they by Hans Christian Anderson or that other daily fairy tales, the Daily Mail and Daily Express?

GP earn more then 200,000, nhs doctors may be less.

[teerak2uk]

Best speak to my Bro in law who's a liver surgeon on 170k I think he must be getting shafted then

[GastonJ]

While you're all busy looking at that, no-one has mentioned the official published NHS pay scales for doctors as a comparison.

http://www.nhsemployers.org/~/media/Employers/Documents/Pay%20and%20reward/Pay-Circular-MD-2-2014.pdf

SJ, sorry to disappoint you, but those are the NHS rates paid to medical staff, and not one of them is for ?20 million a year or even ?200,000 a year. Keep on reading and believing the comics