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  • gmb45
    Admin Assistant
    • Nov 2008
    • 7538

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    WORKERS FROM EU CLAIM UK PENSIONS



    Workers from the EU, not pictured, are flocking to Britain to get access to generous pensions

    THOUSANDS of workers from the EU are flocking to Britain as ?National Insurance tourists? to get access to our generous benefits and pensions, the Daily Express can reveal.

    Polish-owned companies with UK offices are encouraging self-employed people who live and work in Poland to switch their ni payments to Britain.
    All that is required is a one-day visit to London for an appointment at a jobcentre Plus to get a NI number and open a UK bank account. They are lured by the promise of a British basic pension of ?412.75, compared with just ?130 a month in Poland.
    An investigation by the Daily Express discovered how UK-based representatives of unscrupulous Polish firms regularly collect self-employed workers at British airports. These agents have already set up appointments at the JobCentre and bank.
    The Polish workers can legitimately claim to be employed by the UK-based company, performing five hours ?consultancy? work per month, which can be done by telephone or computer from anywhere in the world. The UK-registered firm, which is paid up to ?100 a month by each ?tourist?, issues them with payslips and pays their British NI, often as little as ?10 per month.
    The fee is considerably less than the ?190 a month a taxi driver or hairdresser can expect to pay in contributions in Poland, and could allow them access to higher pensions and other benefits.
    Businessman Ireneusz Klader, whose firm in the Polish city of Rzeszow urges self-employed Poles to ?live off the Queen?, insisted his business was completely legal.
    He said: ?This system is available for every member of the eu. I am actually doing a favour to the British taxpayer as my company, on behalf of my clients, is paying many tens of thousands of pounds every month in contributions.?

    But when asked about the cost to Britain when his clients reach retirement age, he said: ?This is in the future and we are now talking about the present.? The Polish parliament is so concerned by the drop in contributions that Labour Minister Jolanta Fedak has asked for Britain?s help.
    She issued a warning to Poles intending to travel to Britain not to be tempted by the claim that they will qualify for a hefty pension.
    She said: ?Paying the minimum contribution abroad will not generate enough for a pension. And they won?t have a domestic one as they will have accumulated nothing in Poland.? It is estimated as many as 5,000 self-employed Poles have taken advantage of such schemes in the past 12 months, despite still living and working in their home country.
    Matthew Elliott, chief executive at the taxpayers? Alliance, said: ?This is the latest example of benefit shopping where the UK is chosen as we have such a lax and flawed system. This should be of huge concern to both the Polish and UK governments.?

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  • chroma
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    • Feb 2009
    • 1976

    #2
    where will it end?

    Bankrupcy more than likely and yet more taxes for us to prop up our inept government.
    He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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    • dctyper
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      • Jun 2008
      • 2539

      #3
      you have to work 93% of your working life to claim a pension, so infact they wont see a penny unless they sign up at 18 and work all the way through. i say let them pay in money
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      • chroma
        V.I.P. Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 1976

        #4
        Originally posted by dctyper
        you have to work 93% of your working life to claim a pension, so infact they wont see a penny unless they sign up at 18 and work all the way through. i say let them pay in money
        Thats all well and good till the bleeding heart lefties decide that thats unfair and pay out anyways... unless of course theyre actualy uk residents in which case screw em.
        He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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        • chipz222
          Newbie
          • Jan 2010
          • 7

          #5
          trouble with this country we have too many loop holes and by the time we close them millions more has gone out the coffers this country! short fall is then taken away from local councils expecting them to find the money and its the working class who pay... aint far off victorian times for working class.........

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          • patkins
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            • Oct 2009
            • 3662

            #6
            It`s the same here in Ireland m8.

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            • firemouth
              DK Veteran
              • Sep 2008
              • 410

              #7
              Originally posted by dctyper
              you have to work 93% of your working life to claim a pension, so infact they wont see a penny unless they sign up at 18 and work all the way through. i say let them pay in money
              Originally posted by chroma
              Thats all well and good till the bleeding heart lefties decide that thats unfair and pay out anyways... unless of course theyre actualy uk residents in which case screw em.
              yep that's right, ignore the facts, and just keep complaining. the empty headed Right wing is just as bad as the bleeding heart Lefties.

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              If it aint broke, don't fix it!
              If its broke, fix it and use it again!
              If it proper broke, use it for something else!

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              • chroma
                V.I.P. Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 1976

                #8
                Originally posted by firemouth
                yep that's right, ignore the facts, and just keep complaining. the empty headed Right wing is just as bad as the bleeding heart Lefties.
                The facts are blatantly simple in this case if your born after 1945 (1950 if your a woman) for every year you pay in you get a return of 1/30 full state pension. or ?3.175 per week per years NI contributions currently.

                So after your first year your entitled to 2/30s or ?6.35 after two years ?9.525, three ?12.70, and so forth.

                You only need to pay in for 30yrs to recieve the full ?95.25 a week.

                The scarier part is if your earning between ?95 and ?110 a week as of 09 you dont even need to pay in NI contributions to claim your years entitlement...

                So if you play your cards right you pay in nothing and claim back when your of age...
                He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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