Hamas leader killed in Dubai by Mossad

[Gratis]

A bungled operation by Mossad has led to a full inquiry by Britain & other western countries of how the stolen identities of nationals were forged on passports to carry out an assassination in Dubai.While Mossad carry out its terror by assassinating a key figure of Hamas,they will say they are doing this to protect the safety of Israelis in their homeland.Now the Islamists blow up an airline full of innocent people which will not influence their cause one bit.If the Islamists have any real power,they would seek out Mossad figures or legitimate targets responsible for decisions in Gaza & Palestine causing many deaths.They do not have a reconnaissance & intelligence covert secret service
Brits Named As Assassins 'Shocked And Scared' - Yahoo! News UK

[Gratis]

This story has made headline news today.The cell have obviously gone into hiding somewhere in Israel.I would hope a democratic,law-abiding state of Israel will track them down and release them to the relevant authorites!!!What do you think?More chance of Man Utd being relegated!!

[smirnoff_rules]

good .he will not be missed

[^^TommyTee]

State Execution ... British Government have done this for years

Look at Northern Ireland

They all Kill each other Thank God i was born in the UK

[Gratis]

State Execution ... British Government have done this for years

Look at Northern Ireland

They all Kill each other Thank God i was born in the UK

They hide behind democracy,yet act like terrorists by taking the law into their own hands

[davieboy.rfc]

who gives a fcuk who killed the cnut he was a terrorist good riddance 2 SCUM.......

[Lyrrad]

This story has made headline news today.The cell have obviously gone into hiding somewhere in Israel.I would hope a democratic,law-abiding state of Israel will track them down and release them to the relevant authorites!!!What do you think?More chance of Man Utd being relegated!!

To my mind a legit target. Hamas does not recognise the state of Israel, why should the Israelis worry too much about taking this guy out. The diplomatic relations between UK/Eire/Israel is not gonna be weakened or strengthned over the use of the passports. Yeah the UK press may kick up a stink, and the UK may have to be seen to be doing something about the passport usage. However behind closed doors they will most probably be thanking the Israelis for removing this guy. It always amazes me when Israel does this kind of thing there is an element that will class it as terrorism. If the US/Pakistani/Afghan/UK do it, it is deemed okay.

I don't get what you mean by tracking them down. They weren't a rogue unit. Mossad is the Israeli intelligence service. It would have been snactioned in the same way any other country would have done. ie from the leadership of the country. I think it is quite clear Israel will always track down and kill anyone that has blood on their hands. Mr. Hamas leader would have known that

[Gratis]

To my mind a legit target. Hamas does not recognise the state of Israel, why should the Israelis worry too much about taking this guy out. The diplomatic relations between UK/Eire/Israel is not gonna be weakened or strengthned over the use of the passports. Yeah the UK press may kick up a stink, and the UK may have to be seen to be doing something about the passport usage. However behind closed doors they will most probably be thanking the Israelis for removing this guy. It always amazes me when Israel does this kind of thing there is an element that will class it as terrorism. If the US/Pakistani/Afghan/UK do it, it is deemed okay.

I don't get what you mean by tracking them down. They weren't a rogue unit. Mossad is the Israeli intelligence service. It would have been snactioned in the same way any other country would have done. ie from the leadership of the country. I think it is quite clear Israel will always track down and kill anyone that has blood on their hands. Mr. Hamas leader would have known that

The problem lies that the assassination took place in Dubai,UAE,which does not even recognist the state of Israel.If it were to have happened in Britain,you could argue M15 had allowed the killing to take place on British soil.I do not think any Dubai government officials allowed this to occur on their soil.Therefore,Mossad acting as you rightly say acting on behalf of the Israel government,sanctioned a murder to take place in another country.An act of war.I do not think this will end here as Hamas will most certainly seek revenge and it will be some innocent tourists who kop it.More worryingly,UAE and other Arab countries may now throw many millions(they have the resources) in financing a secret Intelligence service to track down those responsible for committing crimes in their country

[patkins]

A bungled operation by Mossad has led to a full inquiry by Britain & other western countries of how the stolen identities of nationals were forged on passports to carry out an assassination in Dubai.While Mossad carry out its terror by assassinating a key figure of Hamas,they will say they are doing this to protect the safety of Israelis in their homeland.Now the Islamists blow up an airline full of innocent people which will not influence their cause one bit.If the Islamists have any real power,they would seek out Mossad figures or legitimate targets responsible for decisions in Gaza & Palestine causing many deaths.They do not have a reconnaissance & intelligence covert secret service
Brits Named As Assassins 'Shocked And Scared' - Yahoo! News UK

Apparently their passports were of Irish origin and the Government here has informed the relevant people whose passport identities were stolen and used in this incident.`

[Lyrrad]

The problem lies that the assassination took place in Dubai,UAE,which does not even recognist the state of Israel.If it were to have happened in Britain,you could argue M15 had allowed the killing to take place on British soil.I do not think any Dubai government officials allowed this to occur on their soil.Therefore,Mossad acting as you rightly say acting on behalf of the Israel government,sanctioned a murder to take place in another country.An act of war.I do not think this will end here as Hamas will most certainly seek revenge and it will be some innocent tourists who kop it.More worryingly,UAE and other Arab countries may now throw many millions(they have the resources) in financing a secret Intelligence service to track down those responsible for committing crimes in their country

I suggest you do a bit more homework.

With all of their oil $$$$$$$ may I ask why EU & US and even Israel fund the Palestinians (the Israelis have actually supplied arms to Palestinian police in the past). Why don't the Saudis, and U.A.E send proper financial assistance?

It would be nice if the revenge was aimed at the Israeli army, or maybe as you suggest the inteligence service itself. Instead it will be rockets being lobbed into Israeli civilians (something that happened on a daily basis for over 3 years after Israel unilaterally pulled out of Gaza). Just imagine what would happen if the Channel Islands started firing rockets into Kent on a daily basis.

Sorry an act of war!!!! Don't be so dramatic. Intelligence services don't tend to announce anything to anyone So on your way of thinking, during the cold war if US killed Soviet agent in W.Germany without W.German knowledge then US had commited act of war on W.Germany.

Nothing more happened than a terrorist was taken out by a Soveriegn state acting on foreign land. Remember this guy was in Dubai buying weapons. Surely it's a good thing that that deal didn't go through for surely more than 1 life would have been lost in the long run. I think it is good for these leaders to know that there is nowhere for them to hide.

If you re-read your posts in this thread it's quite clear where you are coming from.

[Gratis]

I suggest you do a bit more homework.

With all of their oil $$$$$$$ may I ask why EU & US and even Israel fund the Palestinians (the Israelis have actually supplied arms to Palestinian police in the past). Why don't the Saudis, and U.A.E send proper financial assistance?

It would be nice if the revenge was aimed at the Israeli army, or maybe as you suggest the inteligence service itself. Instead it will be rockets being lobbed into Israeli civilians (something that happened on a daily basis for over 3 years after Israel unilaterally pulled out of Gaza). Just imagine what would happen if the Channel Islands started firing rockets into Kent on a daily basis.

Sorry an act of war!!!! Don't be so dramatic. Intelligence services don't tend to announce anything to anyone So on your way of thinking, during the cold war if US killed Soviet agent in W.Germany without W.German knowledge then US had commited act of war on W.Germany.

Nothing more happened than a terrorist was taken out by a Soveriegn state acting on foreign land. Remember this guy was in Dubai buying weapons. Surely it's a good thing that that deal didn't go through for surely more than 1 life would have been lost in the long run. I think it is good for these leaders to know that there is nowhere for them to hide.

If you re-read your posts in this thread it's quite clear where you are coming from.

Obviously from the context of your post,I can see where you are coming from....a world where superpowers dictate the geography & culture of countries using any means suitable to achieve their aims,exploitation,corruption or even murder.Nobody has ever suggested to you that Hamas plays fair.With them,you know what you are getting.But please do not insinuate the Israeli government is any better.It uses tactics of any nature to achieve its aims.Yet it hides behind a facade of respectability in the guise of a democracy.That is the point you DO not seem to understand!!!!

[Lyrrad]

Obviously from the context of your post,I can see where you are coming from....a world where superpowers dictate the geography & culture of countries using any means suitable to achieve their aims,exploitation,corruption or even murder.Nobody has ever suggested to you that Hamas plays fair.With them,you know what you are getting.But please do not insinuate the Israeli government is any better.It uses tactics of any nature to achieve its aims.Yet it hides behind a facade of respectability in the guise of a democracy.That is the point you DO not seem to understand!!!!

I'm not too sure if this is the right forum for discussion of this nature, but I suppose all is okay.

I believe the aims of the Israelis is to live in peace with it's neighbours.
It's just a bit difficult to do that with people that don't accept your right to exist.

I too agree that at least Hamas tell it as it is. THEY DO NOT WANT THE STATE OF ISRAEL TO EXIST.

What do you want the Israelis to do with that situation. Sit around a table and talk.

The world is a better place now that this guy is dead. He was a terrorist with blood on his hands, a sworn enemy of the State of Israel, and you somehow want to say that Israel has used terrorist tactics in removing him. What should they have done, waited for a shipment of arms to arrive in Gaza, or perhaps asked the ever so helpful government in Dubai if they could actually stop the shipment happening.

You see the peace that Israel has to accept with it's neigbours is nothing like any other country would even consider as peace. Why can't the Eygptians stop the smuggling of arms from their country into Gaza. Eygpt and Israel have a peace accord, yet ALL weapons that are in Gaza arrive through Egypt. Now that's a great neighbour of Israel, yet the Israelis accept it as peace. Pathetic if you ask me.


Perhaps you could give your views on my thoughts.

[Kent22]

Mossad??

Yes it sounds like they did it because of the nature of the person. What I am thinking personally is that "If Mossad did it, we wouldnt know they did" the guy would have been dead with no traces of evidence, after all, they are the BEST in the world. But who can know, who cares, he was a criminal and those who live by the sword will die by the sword.

[Gratis]

Most sensible commentators realise this is the work of Mossad-sabotaging the identities of Israelis who hold dual nationality to forge passports.The problem with the assassination is that a democratic government allowed its Secret Service to commit murder in a foreign land.As the man was a criminal & mass murderer,the proper procedure is to notify the corresponding country to issue an arrest warrant for his capture,apply for his immediate deportation,where he will be tried & sentenced according the laws of the country where his crimes were committed.UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE,should a government lower itself to committing murder if it wants the world to perceive it hold values which are attributable to a civilised country.If Dubai,UAE do not want to collaborate with Israel Secret Service,then they must wait until the person arrives in a 'friendly country'.This.I believe.is the respected protocol in these situations.To suffocate him in a hotel room,is nothing more than cold blooded murder.As for Egypt & neighbours of Israel,none of them truly recognise the state of Israel.It only exists through the power & might of USA backing.Just look at all the influential businessman in the States who contribute billions to the State.Their influence has reached the highest echelons of the White House where they have dictated USA Foreign Policy for decades.Over here in the UK,even Tory Party receives much money from a group called 'Friends of Israel',in order to influence decision making(Dispatches)

[Lyrrad]

Most sensible commentators realise this is the work of Mossad-sabotaging the identities of Israelis who hold dual nationality to forge passports.The problem with the assassination is that a democratic government allowed its Secret Service to commit murder in a foreign land.As the man was a criminal & mass murderer,the proper procedure is to notify the corresponding country to issue an arrest warrant for his capture,apply for his immediate deportation,where he will be tried & sentenced according the laws of the country where his crimes were committed.UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE,should a government lower itself to committing murder if it wants the world to perceive it hold values which are attributable to a civilised country.If Dubai,UAE do not want to collaborate with Israel Secret Service,then they must wait until the person arrives in a 'friendly country'.This.I believe.is the respected protocol in these situations.To suffocate him in a hotel room,is nothing more than cold blooded murder.As for Egypt & neighbours of Israel,none of them truly recognise the state of Israel.It only exists through the power & might of USA backing.Just look at all the influential businessman in the States who contribute billions to the State.Their influence has reached the highest echelons of the White House where they have dictated USA Foreign Policy for decades.Over here in the UK,even Tory Party receives much money from a group called 'Friends of Israel',in order to influence decision making(Dispatches)

Thanks for that. So what country do you percieve has values that are deemed civilised. Also no need for the bold writing, It's clear enough where your coming from.