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  • gmb45
    Admin Assistant
    • Nov 2008
    • 7538

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    Motorist launches legal battle....

    ....to prove speed cameras give false readings in the cold






    Angry: Andrew Fowler in front of the speed camera that he says led him to be wrongly fined for speeding



    A defiant motorist has embarked on a landmark legal battle against speed cameras - after discovering that Gatso units may issue false tickets in cold weather.
    Andrew Fowler, 48, was flashed in Cambridge on a freezing February morning last year allegedly travelling at 41mph in a 30mph limit.
    But the dad-of-three, who passed the camera daily en route to work for 12 months, was sure the speedometer on his silver Skoda Favorit read around 30mph.
    He contested the ticket and began a one-man campaign to prove it was faulty, which if successful could open the doors for thousands of drivers to challenge speeding fines.
    Experienced electrical engineer Andrew now claims to have expert evidence showing that Gatsos can give false readings when the outside temperature drops below 0C.
    He believes the cameras are only calibrated for accuracy between 0C and 70C, and at lower temperatures vital timing circuitry is slowed inside the unit.
    This means as he passed the camera, when the temperature was minus -5C, the normal half-second pause between the two images used to measure speed was delayed.
    It would then give the impression that the car had travelled further over the white lines painted on the road used to calculate distance and give a higher speed reading.
    He has now taken his appeal to Cambridge Crown Court, where he hopes to push for the matter to be taken to judicial review at the High Court in London.
    Andrew, of Shepreth, Cambs., who had held a clean licence since passing his test over 20 years ago, said the risk of thousands in legal costs is worth it if justice can be done for all drivers.
    He said: ?It's me versus the system, there's no two ways about it, and it is pretty daunting to be honest.
    ?I'm nowhere near being a rich man but I don't mind how much this costs me because it is for a good cause, this is for all motorists.
    ?If I'm successful everyone will be at their crown court with speeding cases. Everyone will be able to appeal.? He was flashed by the rear facing camera at 6.12am on February 2 last year on Trumpington Road on his way to work at Cambridge Railway Station.
    Rather than accept a ?60 fine and three points, he took the matter to trial at Cambridge Magistrates' Court, where he lost and was handed a ?350 bill in fine and costs plus four points.

    Questionable evidence: Gatso pictures of Mr Fowler's frost-covered car



    However he has now taken his case to appeal and appeared before Judge Anthony Bate at Cambridge Crown Court on Wednesday, who set a hearing date for July.
    In court papers he claims the integrated electrical circuit which sets the camera timer is not guaranteed to work below 0C, and only ever calibrated at room temperature.
    Andrew, who lives with wife Selina and children aged 18, 14 and 12, is representing himself in court to help keep legal costs down.
    He added: ?If it's so cold the capacitor on the circuit can't hold its charge or is damaged the flash will not go off in time.
    ?I drove past that camera every day for 12 months and it never flashed.
    ?I have no reason to believe I was speeding that day. I checked my speedometer and I was doing just over 30mph.
    ?I'm not anti-speed cameras. They are a piece of electronics on the side of the road designed to do a job. But they have to be right and they have to be correct.
    ?The Home Office needs to take a fresh look as to whether the Gatsos work.
    ?The whole thing is unfair. The motorist is being bullied.? Hugh Bladon, co-founder of the Association of British Drivers (ABD), said that the case could be an important development for motorists.
    He said: ?We do feel that some of the readings from these cameras are suspect.
    ?An awful lot of people lose their licences, livelihoods and even jobs and mortgages because of speeding penalties.
    ?If the case succeeds in proving that cameras are suspect below a certain temperature then the floodgates will open for further appeals.? Gatso cameras are manufactured by Dutch firm Gatsometer and calibrated at their head quarters in Holland annually to ensure accuracy and Home Office compliance.
    Swindon Borough Council became the first in Britain to scrap fixed Gatso cameras last Summer and has seen no noticeable difference in accidents since.
    There are more than 4,000 fixed Gatso speed cameras currently in use across the UK - accounting for 90 per cent of all fixed speed cameras.
    Gatsos cost approximately ?20,000 to install but can cost up to ?40,000 if located in a rural location as the system requires a 240 volt power supply.



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  • z786
    DK Veteran
    • Aug 2009
    • 4781

    #2
    i was pulled last week by the fuzz, i was scratching my ear but was mistaken using a mobile fone

    the officer didn't even give me a chance

    60 quid fine n 3 points

    the solicitor rekoned ther was 5% success rate

    cheaper jus 2 take the points

    i feel sorry 4 this man, good luck 2 him
    "I always tell the truth. Even when I lie"

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    • Meat-Head
      V.I.P. Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 32000

      #3
      Originally posted by z786
      i was pulled last week by the fuzz, i was scratching my ear but was mistaken using a mobile fone
      I know a bird that not only got picked up by the fuzz, she got swung around by the tits. Last New Year

      Didn't realise your ear was mobile phone shaped

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      • barrowmanandrew
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        • Nov 2009
        • 3427

        #4
        another shinning light for the common man...lets hope he wins...........

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        • johnboy1974
          DK Veteran
          • Dec 2008
          • 3418

          #5
          good luck to that man he represents every pissed off motorist in the country.

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          • Meat-Head
            V.I.P. Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 32000

            #6
            Originally posted by z786
            i was scratching my ear but was mistaken using a mobile fone

            the officer didn't even give me a chance
            Just a thought, but if you ear wasn't transmitting or receiving a phone
            call, you could in theroey get away with it, as your phone company will have records of your calls, at that time and date, thus either proving you guilty, or proving you innocent, dude.

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            • z786
              DK Veteran
              • Aug 2009
              • 4781

              #7
              yh but, there wer 2 of them
              mhy word against thers mate
              i even spoke 2 th e magistrate and he sez evry1 has the same story, he reckoned it was a 10% chance of winning

              its jus cheaper 2 take the points
              "I always tell the truth. Even when I lie"

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              • Meat-Head
                V.I.P. Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 32000

                #8
                Originally posted by z786
                yh but, there wer 2 of them
                mhy word against thers mate
                i even spoke 2 th e magistrate and he sez evry1 has the same story, he reckoned it was a 10% chance of winning

                its jus cheaper 2 take the points
                Worth a phone call/email to your phone company to ask for a record of you phones calls for <date> <time>

                Also what you do is pay it, then try claiming it back, if you win great, if you loose, outta pocket BIG style

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