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  • Lyrrad
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    • Apr 2008
    • 484

    #1

    Supermarkets selling halal meat without clear labelling

    Britain’s biggest supermarkets are selling Islamic halal meat, without marking it as such on the packaging.

    Halal meat is prepared according to Sharia law by cutting an animal’s throat while a Muslim butcher recites a religious verse.

    A Mail on Sunday investigation found Sainsbury’s, Tesco, Somerfield, the Co-op, Waitrose and Marks and Spencer (M&S) all stock halal meat.

    Clear

    Jim Paice, Government Minister for Agriculture and Food, said: “People should know what they’re buying in the shops or when they’re eating out and I will be discussing with the food industry the role labelling can play in giving consumers a choice.”

    Head of Communications at The Christian Institute, Mike Judge, also called for halal meat to be clearly labelled so that consumers can make their own choices.

    The Mail on Sunday’s investigation revealed that fast food chains Domino’s Pizza, KFC, Pizza Hut, Nando’s and Subway all currently sell halal meat without telling customers.

    However McDonalds, Burger King and Wimpy say they do not sell any halal food in the UK.

    Prayer

    In the case of most of the supermarkets questioned, the New Zealand lamb sold was halal. A spokesman from Tesco told the newspaper that all its New Zealand lamb is halal as is 35 per cent of its UK lamb.

    A spokesman from Sainsbury’s said: “The abattoirs that supply us with lamb are licensed by the Muslim authorities and a prayer is said when the animals are killed.”

    Asda refused to confirm or deny whether it sells any halal meat.

    Separate

    Dr Richard North, who is a qualified meat inspector, said the reason for so much meat being halal-only was simple: “profit”.

    He said with a rise in demand for halal meat, slaughterhouses could either introduce a separate production line or just have one line.

    Dr North said the ‘one-size’ method that won out was “the less humane method of killing tailored to the religious demands of just four per cent of the population”.

    Protest

    In August Harrow Council in London provoked a storm of protest after it announced plans to prefer Islamic halal-only menus in the borough’s state primary schools.

    Parents were outraged that meat prepared according to Islamic Sharia law was being pushed on non-Muslim children.

    Contracts signed with the Council’s preferred catering company, Harrison’s, stipulated that only halal meat was to be served.

    The Council has since said it will postpone the move, because of, in part, “the level of interest from parents”, and will revisit the issue.


    Contentious

    Earlier this month it was revealed British Airways passengers could be given halal-only meals under plans being considered by the world’s largest provider of airline food.

    GateGourmet, which caters for all long haul British Airways flights from Heathrow airport, claimed the contentious proposal would save money.

    And last week the Mail on Sunday reported that thousands of customers at some of Britain’s biggest restaurant chains and sporting venues are being given ‘halal-only’ meat options.

    Football fans at Wembley Stadium wanting beef, chicken and lamb are also only given a halal-meat option while rugby supporters at Twickenham can only buy halal chicken



    What is it coming to in this country. I don't want allah rammed down my throat FULL STOP, and certainly not without my knowledge. I avoid all halal takeaways etc. I would really be interested to see what muslim posters have to say about this. I wouldn't expect a muslim to be surreptitiously served pig.
    Last edited by Lyrrad; 15 October, 2010, 14:38.
  • Lyrrad
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    • Apr 2008
    • 484

    #2
    Originally posted by Lyrrad

    Football fans at Wembley Stadium wanting beef, chicken and lamb are also only given a halal-meat option while rugby supporters at Twickenham can only buy halal chicken
    So I go to Wembley with my muslim mate. He starves because he will only eat halal meat (and Wembley chose to keep it a secret), and I eat food that I would avoid if labelled correctly, as I don't want to eat halal meat.

    How can this be correct.

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    • super jumbe
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      • Dec 2008
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      #3
      I am vegetarian so there is no reason I will able to starve.

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      • smirnoff_rules
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        • Mar 2008
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        #4
        Originally posted by Lyrrad
        So I go to Wembley with my muslim mate. He starves because he will only eat halal meat (and Wembley chose to keep it a secret), and I eat food that I would avoid if labelled correctly, as I don't want to eat halal meat.

        How can this be correct.
        whey wouldnt u eat halal meat ? isnt it the same as normal meat just blest and hung different
        any information provided is for educational/experimental purposes only.

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        • Canker_Canison
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          • May 2010
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          #5
          Just eat pork. See how long it takes the supermarkets to back down when profits are hit.

          It's not the praying & cult chanting that I disagree with. There is no god so the ramblings of an old fool mean nothing to me. Someone could be singing Yoko Ono's dribble, it has the same effect... nothing.

          It's the inhumane way the animals are killed that gets me. I've seen videos of people getting their throats slit while still alive. It's not nice & it takes a good 3-4 mins for them to die. No animal should have to suffer just to please a barbaric cult.
          Last edited by Canker_Canison; 15 October, 2010, 15:02.
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          • super jumbe
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            • Dec 2008
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            #6
            I will make it clear its upto you to make your mind up, first thing you have to know what Halal meat means, there are two ways I was told 1 way if it?s Halal after paralysing animal by electode short then the throat is cut in just to remove all the blood from the animal body and if its not Halal animal gets bullet in his forehead and the blood remains in his meat.

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            • nara
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              • May 2008
              • 2586

              #7
              Non story. Who cares. Eat your meat and enjoy it.
              He who laughs last probably didn't get the joke.

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              • thewizardofodds
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                • Nov 2008
                • 924

                #8
                They dont stun them they just cut their throats like they do with kosher

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                • smirnoff_rules
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                  • Mar 2008
                  • 8603

                  #9
                  think people have turned into fannys .. only a few thousand years ago u would have to hunt and kill your food now u worry about how its killed .. we are at the top of the food chain .. thats life .. kill it eat it simples
                  any information provided is for educational/experimental purposes only.

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                  • z786
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                    • Aug 2009
                    • 4781

                    #10
                    here mate, i hope it helps

                    but wat i see with some people is that their mind is always made up

                    but whateva keeps you going thru life
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                    • Grizz
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                      • Sep 2010
                      • 1598

                      #11
                      Originally posted by z786
                      here mate, i hope it helps

                      but wat i see with some people is that their mind is always made up

                      but whateva keeps you going thru life

                      great explanation, one thing though, pigs do get their throats cut here to remove the blood, to make black pudding.

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                      • z786
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                        • Aug 2009
                        • 4781

                        #12
                        that does give a good explanation, about the throat thing

                        there is a vein that runs along the throat, not sure what its called, that vein is used to drain the blood, the pig does not have the vein
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                        • chroma
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                          • Feb 2009
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by z786
                          there is a vein that runs along the throat, not sure what its called, that vein is used to drain the blood, the pig does not have the vein
                          Dont talk complete nonsense.
                          You just need a rope, and tie it firmly around the back portion of the pigs misection, at the back make a loop and then tighten the rope considerably to prevent it comming loose during struggle.

                          Then take another rope, make a loop in one end and pass this over the snout and under the canines (to prevent it slipping), stretch it up over the head and pass it through the loop in the rope at the back end, pull it taught and it gives you full access to the pigs throat.

                          Take another rope and tie off its hind legs, pass it over a rafter or hook it to a meat hook and leave the pig hanging, this gives you direct access to the corotid artery (used to transfer oxygenated blood to the brain) and the posterior jugular vein (used to transfer deoxygenated blood back to the respitory system)
                          Pigs have both, in fact their entire anatomy is very simmilar to a humans in most respects, especialy with organ arangement and arterial systems, the only major difference is bone and muscle structures.

                          With piglets you dont even need to touch the throat to bleed them out, we used to just warm up the barn, hack the ears off and let them bleed out, pigs use their ears to regulate blood temperature, they're incapable of sweating just like dogs, so when its warm they increase circulation to the ears to cool themselves.

                          Ive done both a few times as a kid, usualy cutting the veins as i was too small at the time to hold a thrashing pig still.
                          The things kids will do to make money for a microscope, i dunno whas worse seeing cheese mold through a scope or hearing pigs scream on end for what seems an eternity.
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                          • Grizz
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                            • Sep 2010
                            • 1598

                            #14
                            Originally posted by chroma
                            i dunno whas worse seeing cheese mold through a scope or hearing pigs scream on end for what seems an eternity.
                            one of the worst sounds ive ever heard, worst listening to it than watching it, but you still cant beat that pudding.

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                            • HoTTDubbER
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                              • Nov 2008
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Lyrrad
                              So I go to Wembley with my muslim mate. He starves because he will only eat halal meat (and Wembley chose to keep it a secret), and I eat food that I would avoid if labelled correctly, as I don't want to eat halal meat.

                              How can this be correct.
                              halal meat is no different to normal meat except its blessed and slaughtered in a different way , any person that has a problem with eating or buying halal meat is just pure ignorant and needs to take a long good look at them selfs
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