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  • mattybhoy
    DK Veteran
    • Dec 2009
    • 1046

    #1

    Ex-Soldier Returns Medals in Protest

    Ex-soldier to return medals in protest

    Published on Fri Nov 19 11:10:24 GMT 2010

    A Leeds University student and former soldier is due to give back his military medals in protest at Britain's continuing involvement in the war in Afghanistan.
    Joe Glenton, who served six months in a military jail after refusing to return to Afghanistan for a second tour, will hand over his medals to 10 Downing Street.
    He will be joined by relatives of other soldiers, who are members of the Military Families Against The War campaign group, including Joan Humphries, whose grandson, Kevin Elliot, was killed in action in Afghanistan last year.


    Mr Glenton, who now campaigns against war, served one tour of duty in Afghanistan, but deserted from the Army when he was ordered to return. He is now a student at Leeds Metropolitan University.


    The military families will deliver a letter to Prime Minister David Cameron calling for the Government to bring British troops home from Afghanistan.


    Meanwhile, the Stop The War Coalition said it expected thousands of people to join a national demonstration in London to oppose the conflict in Afghanistan.


    The group's convener, Lindsey German, said students and sixth-form pupils from across the country would take part in the protest amid a "surge" of anti-war feeling.



    "It will be a lively demonstration to press for the withdrawal of troops. Spending on Afghanistan is now approaching ?5 billion a year - money that should be spent on areas such as education and welfare, which are now under threat because of the Government's spending cuts."


    Ms German said opposition to the war was growing, with 75% of the British public wanting the troops home now.
    Speakers at the rally will include Labour's London Mayoral candidate, Labour MPs Eric Joyce and John McDonnell, human rights lawyer Phil Shiner and writer Terry Eagleton.




    I say good on him and good luck. Stop the unjust war and stop the killing.
  • cablefreejunkie
    DK Veteran
    • Jul 2008
    • 1717

    #2
    i agree totally with what this chap is doing
    The control of information is the consolidation of power

    ?I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain?s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.? ? Nathan Rothschild



    IF I HELPED HIT THE THANKS BUTTON

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    • opsmonkey
      V.I.P. Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 5379

      #3
      It is a fundamental condition of military service that individuals are duty bound to carry out lawful orders. In this case Parliament accepted the case for the mission which means that as far as the servicemen and women are concerned, it is a lawful order. But once the military get it into their heads that they know better than Parliament, you're one step away from a military dictatorship.

      LCpl Glenton should have put in his Premature Voluntary Resignation after his first tour instead of 2 days before he was set to leave for Afghanistan for a second time..

      Truth of the matter is that the lad shat his pants and went AWOL.. which is fair enough.. but to dress him up as a freedom fighter is a crock of shite...

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      • mattybhoy
        DK Veteran
        • Dec 2009
        • 1046

        #4
        Not so much a freedom fighter - more like a freedom non-fighter.

        He seems to have got quite a bit of support from families of soldiers.

        I think giving his medals back from a time when he didn't maybe shat himself is a powerful statement. Seems as though he's doing it for the right reasons - to stop more killings.

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        • opsmonkey
          V.I.P. Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 5379

          #5
          inside line on this mate is he didn't even have these thoughts before he went AWOL.. he was shit scared.. the lad was a cook.. he'd already been once and didn't want to go again..

          his clever arse solicitor fed him the "Anti War" line... Thought it would get him off his AWOL charge and time in the glasshouse.. didn't work..

          The Anti War brigade jumped on this and he lapped it up..

          He's a fake mate.. he joined the Army in 2004.. he knew exactly what he was joining..

          He shat himself and deserted.. nothing to do with being a political warrior

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          • opsmonkey
            V.I.P. Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 5379

            #6
            there have been plenty of sailors, soldiers and airmen that have come back from Afghanistan and Iraq and thought, "no thanks, not for me..." or "i dont agree with it, I'm off"..

            Fair play to them, for having courage in their convictions..

            Whereas this lad deiced to go AWOL two days before going again.. because he was scared.. he left his colleagues in the lurch and deserted..

            I admire anyone who leaves a profession on moral grounds, many gave up good careers and pensions..

            This lad on the other hand was a sniveling coward and should be shown up for one..

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            • Curious123
              V.I.P. Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 2591

              #7
              I would have to say that Ops and Glenton both know what they are talking about when it comes to the Army and Afganistan. The days of joining the Army and see the world are long gone. In this day and age why would anyone join the Armed services unless they were hundred percent behind supporting and fighting for their country and Queen?

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              • chroma
                V.I.P. Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 1976

                #8
                Complete ARSEHOLE.
                Fair enough if you come back and decide "~~~~ that for a game of soojers" and turn in your papers.
                But to decide a couple of days before deployment is complete and utter bollocks, you shouldnt be put on a pedistal for that, you should be put in a firing squad for endangering the lives of your unit by being a shitebag.

                He shouldnt be able to draw breath let alone turn in his medals.

                Im not one for the army, im openly opposed to the middle eastern conflicts, but this takes the piss.
                If you knowingly sign up for it then you should at the very least think forst and foremost about the other guys standing by your side.
                Screw the government and politics, theyre not on the line getting shot at, they dont depend on you on a daily basis to get the job done and watch their backs, they shouldnt even factor in.

                The only thing that should weigh in on a desicion at that late a stage is the guys your fighting with, who would have your back without question at a moments notice, to walk out on them is outrageous.

                Again im against the war, but to go on a march with him as the figurehead? As if what hes done is in any way acceptable or justified? No thanks.
                Endangering the guys your working along side is in no wat the same as protesting against the war, the cheecky bastard already turned his back on support so why offer him more?
                He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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                • opsmonkey
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 5379

                  #9
                  exactly mate..

                  I'm in the military as people well know here..

                  I have seen lads and girls leave on moral grounds.. fair play to them..

                  this lad was a shitehouse and did a runner 2 days before the off..

                  He'd had 9 MONTHS between tours to leave if he wanted to on moral grounds.. he chose to do a runner 48 hrs before getting on a plane..

                  nothing to do with anti war, everything to do with being a coward..
                  Last edited by opsmonkey; 20 November, 2010, 01:28.

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                  • smirnoff_rules
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 8603

                    #10
                    he joined , he was paid now he wants out because someone shooting back .. coward ...simples
                    any information provided is for educational/experimental purposes only.

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                    • opsmonkey
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 5379

                      #11
                      he wasn't even front line so his story is utter shite.. he was RLC.. cook and stores man..

                      he had plenty of time to legally leave between tours in Afghan.. He was taking the Queens shilling but didn't want to do the time away...

                      whilst he was AWOL he ran off to Australia backpacking for 2 years where he met his wife..

                      the guys is a fake...

                      The AntiWar lot should be trumpeting one of the guys or girls that actually had the balls to leave on moral grounds not on this dick

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                      • Xram
                        DK Veteran
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 580

                        #12
                        Originally posted by opsmonkey
                        he had plenty of time to legally leave between tours in Afghan.. He was taking the Queens shilling but didn't want to do the time away...
                        Totally agree there mate took the extra nine months easy cash before he walked out.
                        I'm against the war but I wouldn't leave my mates in the shit like this twat did at the last second. Surprised he didnt stay for another day or twos cash.

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                        • opsmonkey
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                          • Nov 2008
                          • 5379

                          #13
                          oh and when people do this, drop out last minute, some other poor twat gets their plans ruined.. some poor sod will have had 2 weeks notice to move to get his shite together to cover this coward..

                          the military has loads unfortunately.. "Basra Back" its nicknamed.. working fine and happy taking the money, get a signal saying they are going away.. bad back or some other shite, down to the doctors, medically unfit to deploy..

                          thankfully they are getting booted out left right and center now.. not operationally fit, not fit to do the job.. byeee
                          Last edited by opsmonkey; 20 November, 2010, 02:12.

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                          • Canker_Canison
                            V.I.P. Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 3905

                            #14
                            Lets not forget the families of the soldiers that are anti-war.

                            If someone decides to accept the dangers of joining up, then the family has to accept it as well. Or do their best to get them to change their mind.
                            These people are as bad as the AWOL crowd. They're all as happy as larry while their relative is off fighting, knowing that they will return...but suddenly become anti-war because their loved one died in an 'unjust & illegal' war.

                            I am aware that there are people who campaign while they have loved ones serving in the military. Fair play to them, but I think they should talk to whoever it was that signed up first.

                            There are also those people who feel it was the lack of equipment that caused the loss of a family member. But all's fair in love and war...it's a dangerous place, a vest would be nice, but it can't save you from everything.

                            The people who join the armed forces do so of their own free will. If you are willing to put your life in danger to help others, then you have to accept that you might die. Families need to accept this at the same time.

                            I've seen a few reports from parents of soldiers killed in action. They stood proudly as they supported their childs actions...It's what they wanted to do & were happy to serve their country.
                            Canker

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                            • dazzabhoy
                              Newbie
                              • May 2010
                              • 17

                              #15
                              war is not a game!!!!!!!!!!!! this one is being fought like iraq etc. not for the good of the people but pure ecconomics.

                              well done the lad for standing up, if only some of our servicemen and woman had highlighted what was going on in ireland in the 70's and 80's we might have avoided all the problems and bloodshed that followed.

                              what happened to freedom of speech and the democracy we are supposed to be living in. it seems its only a democracy when it suits the queen and country brigade.

                              there was an anti war banner went up at celtic park a couple of weeks ago. i have never heard such an uproar regarding a peaceful protest. once again it didn't sit well with the establisment, the media etc. who are telling everyone what to think. wake up people, everyone who dies is someones friend/son/daughter/dad/mother etc. it certainly should not happen for ecconomic reasons or on the whim of some hawk in government.

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