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  • super jumbe
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    • Dec 2008
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    America 98 Bailed-Out Banks Could Still Fail

    A Sunday report in The Wall Street Journal found that 98 banks that had received bailout funds from the Troubled Asset Relief Program are in danger of failing. The news comes at the end of a troubled public-relations year for TARP, which remains an object of popular ire despite some high-profiledefenders. What do these findings mean, and what conclusions can we draw from them?
    ?Number of Distressed Banks Is Up The Journal notes that "the total, based on an analysis of third-quarter financial results... is up from 86 in the second quarter, reflecting eroding capital levels, a pileup of bad loans and warnings from regulators." The piece goes on to say that "when TARP was created in the heat of the financial crisis, government officials said it would help only healthy banks. The depth of today's problems for some of the institutions, however, suggests that a number of them were in parlous shape from the beginning."
    ?Most of Them Aren't That Big, Though The Journal also reports that while "the 98 banks in shaky condition got more than $4.2 billion in infusions from the Treasury Department... most of the troubled TARP recipients are small, plagued by wayward lending programs from which they might not recover. The median size of the 98 banks was $439 million in assets as of Sept. 30. The median TARP infusion for each was $10 million."
    ?Great, That's a Few Billion Down the Drain "There are many reasons not to bail out failed banks: Moral Hazard, rewarding the incompetent, thwarting legitimate competition, reducing incentives to be risk averse," writes Barry Ritholtz at The Big Picture. "We can add another to the list: Throwing away billions of dollars."
    ?Meanwhile, the Remaining Banks Get More Bloated Noting that "most of these failures will be relatively small ones," blogger Mike Shedlock goes on to say that "one consequence of these failures is the too big to fail banks keep getting bigger ... Anything too big or too interwoven to fail, is simply too big."
    ?Hang On a Second Mark Blyth, a professor at Brown University quoted in The Huffington Post, says we shouldn't jump to dire conclusions. "If Citibank and Bank of America were going under, that would be a problem," Blyth is quoted as saying. "The bailout was meant to deal with a global systemic crisis. It was not to make sure that some bank in Utah with dodgy commercial real estate would be okay." Blyth also suggests that the reason "people aren't borrowing" is "because they're up to their eyeballs in debt."


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  • cablefreejunkie
    DK Veteran
    • Jul 2008
    • 1717

    #2
    Originally posted by super jumbe
    A Sunday report in The Wall Street Journal found that 98 banks that had received bailout funds from the Troubled Asset Relief Program are in danger of failing. The news comes at the end of a troubled public-relations year for TARP, which remains an object of popular ire despite some high-profiledefenders. What do these findings mean, and what conclusions can we draw from them?
    ?Number of Distressed Banks Is Up The Journal notes that "the total, based on an analysis of third-quarter financial results... is up from 86 in the second quarter, reflecting eroding capital levels, a pileup of bad loans and warnings from regulators." The piece goes on to say that "when TARP was created in the heat of the financial crisis, government officials said it would help only healthy banks. The depth of today's problems for some of the institutions, however, suggests that a number of them were in parlous shape from the beginning."
    ?Most of Them Aren't That Big, Though The Journal also reports that while "the 98 banks in shaky condition got more than $4.2 billion in infusions from the Treasury Department... most of the troubled TARP recipients are small, plagued by wayward lending programs from which they might not recover. The median size of the 98 banks was $439 million in assets as of Sept. 30. The median TARP infusion for each was $10 million."
    ?Great, That's a Few Billion Down the Drain "There are many reasons not to bail out failed banks: Moral Hazard, rewarding the incompetent, thwarting legitimate competition, reducing incentives to be risk averse," writes Barry Ritholtz at The Big Picture. "We can add another to the list: Throwing away billions of dollars."
    ?Meanwhile, the Remaining Banks Get More Bloated Noting that "most of these failures will be relatively small ones," blogger Mike Shedlock goes on to say that "one consequence of these failures is the too big to fail banks keep getting bigger ... Anything too big or too interwoven to fail, is simply too big."
    ?Hang On a Second Mark Blyth, a professor at Brown University quoted in The Huffington Post, says we shouldn't jump to dire conclusions. "If Citibank and Bank of America were going under, that would be a problem," Blyth is quoted as saying. "The bailout was meant to deal with a global systemic crisis. It was not to make sure that some bank in Utah with dodgy commercial real estate would be okay." Blyth also suggests that the reason "people aren't borrowing" is "because they're up to their eyeballs in debt."




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    • super jumbe
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      • Dec 2008
      • 11610

      #3
      Which news would you prefer under water exploration or the outer space exploration the only news we have in our world is the bank closing down and the American war the chose is yours cablefreejunkie.

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      • bobwill
        DK Veteran
        • May 2009
        • 525

        #4
        I thought Gordon Brown saved the banking world or was it just another lie he told us like,
        no more boom and bust ,
        child poverty has ended under labour,
        you can trust labour,
        etc etc etc

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        • Wolfpack
          DK Veteran
          • Jan 2010
          • 1530

          #5
          I love how you call it the American war. I feel it's the Muslim war since they chose to fly planes into the WTC and kiil over 3000 innocent people in the name of Allah. So please stop thinking we are the ones who chose this path.

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          • Canker_Canison
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            • May 2010
            • 3905

            #6
            Originally posted by Wolfpack
            I love how you call it the American war. I feel it's the Muslim war since they chose to fly planes into the WTC and kiil over 3000 innocent people in the name of Allah. So please stop thinking we are the ones who chose this path.

            So you don't feel the American governments foreign policy reguarding the middle east has anything to do with the unrest?
            Canker

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            • super jumbe
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              • Dec 2008
              • 11610

              #7
              Wolfpack what happened on Sep 11 we all condemn this sort of action but when you are saying the Muslim war after few planes crashed into the WTC, etc, you are wrong, because my arguments all along has been that if it was a Muslim war the pilots who guided the planes into the twin towers were the Saudi Arabia citizens and the Americans has not condemn the Saudi Prince for this evil actions and the Americans started war with the Iraqi?s now if it was as you say a Muslim war then the American should have started the war with the Saudi Arabia because they were responsible for this crime in the first place and not the Iraqi. Let me put it this way, when the Irish used to b---m the UK mainland we condemn the Irish, this Saudi pilot were not the ordinary people they were the children?s of the rich Saudi Prince because to be a Jumbo Jet pilot you got to have billions of dollars, one pilot lesson you are looking at ?40,000 an hour so imagine how much money this pilots have spent, that sort of money an ordinary people do not have and the west always pressure the weakest. My argument was all along that we should have pressured the Saudi regime for not stopping there citizens for this crime full stop.

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              • cablefreejunkie
                DK Veteran
                • Jul 2008
                • 1717

                #8
                the saudis would not be condemned by the usa as they are in bed with each other,same as the uk and the saudis,,once you get to the top of the pyramid its just a simple game of chess
                The control of information is the consolidation of power

                ?I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain?s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.? ? Nathan Rothschild



                IF I HELPED HIT THE THANKS BUTTON

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                • super jumbe
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 11610

                  #9
                  Cablefreejunkie you are absolutely 100% right its common sense one would have to think why USA can not say anything about the Saudi & Israel, they can get away with murder, the human rights, renditions, war crimes, etc, we are living the life of the living dead. We the British people are beginning to find out the truth and it?s the truth we want.

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                  • patkins
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 3662

                    #10
                    Getting back to the point in question- it is my belief that the World economy will collapse in 2012 and as each day the financial world offers up another tale of woe makes me all the more convinced.

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                    • racin-snake
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2285

                      #11
                      [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&feature=player_detailpage]YouTube - The Obama Deception HQ Full length version[/ame]


                      the middle of this should show you where the bailout money went
                      and it wasnt used for what it was initially asked for ...watch and decide for yourself ?
                      Today is the Tomorrow you worried about yesterday ......Was it worth it ?

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                      • Wolfpack
                        DK Veteran
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 1530

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Canker_Canison
                        So you don't feel the American governments foreign policy reguarding the middle east has anything to do with the unrest?
                        Do you even no what the policy is? Are you saying that America and the rest of the world turn it's back on Israel? and please don't tell me it's about oil cause America gets less than 20% of it's oil from the Middle East so please tell me our policy concerning the Middle East

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                        • Wolfpack
                          DK Veteran
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 1530

                          #13
                          Originally posted by super jumbe
                          Wolfpack what happened on Sep 11 we all condemn this sort of action but when you are saying the Muslim war after few planes crashed into the WTC, etc, you are wrong, because my arguments all along has been that if it was a Muslim war the pilots who guided the planes into the twin towers were the Saudi Arabia citizens and the Americans has not condemn the Saudi Prince for this evil actions and the Americans started war with the Iraqi?s now if it was as you say a Muslim war then the American should have started the war with the Saudi Arabia because they were responsible for this crime in the first place and not the Iraqi. Let me put it this way, when the Irish used to b---m the UK mainland we condemn the Irish, this Saudi pilot were not the ordinary people they were the children?s of the rich Saudi Prince because to be a Jumbo Jet pilot you got to have billions of dollars, one pilot lesson you are looking at ?40,000 an hour so imagine how much money this pilots have spent, that sort of money an ordinary people do not have and the west always pressure the weakest. My argument was all along that we should have pressured the Saudi regime for not stopping there citizens for this crime full stop.

                          Listen i'm not getting into a Political discussion about the whole thing i'm just tired of everyone blaming America for all the worlds problems. All i'm saying is Muslims hate western culture soon their will be no Europe just Muslim states. I have been to Germany and the Turks are out birthing the Germans and soon there will be no Germany.

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                          • Wolfpack
                            DK Veteran
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 1530

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pat kinsella
                            Getting back to the point in question- it is my belief that the World economy will collapse in 2012 and as each day the financial world offers up another tale of woe makes me all the more convinced.
                            Sorry about the thread. It's easy to blame the banks for the mess the world is in but i know here in America the banks were forced to lend money like a drunken sailor cause the Leftest here felt that minority's didn't own enough homes compared to white people in America. So they lowered the standards of lending and the government told them they would back them if they default. now since they couldn't just target minority's with this twisted logic they lent money that way to everyone. no i'm not saying i was for the TARP but nothing is too big to fail. Don't worry the world isn't going to collapse it's just going to see this recession last for atleast another decade

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                            • Canker_Canison
                              V.I.P. Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 3905

                              #15
                              I don't have the time to give a full answer, so I'm going to cheat a little bit first.

                              The officially stated goals of the foreign policy of the United States, as mentioned in the Foreign Policy Agenda of the U.S. Department of State, are "to create a more secure, democratic, and prosperous world for the benefit of the American people and the international community."In addition, the United States House Committee on Foreign Affairs states as some of its jurisdictional goals: "export controls, including nonproliferation of nuclear technology and nuclear hardware; measures to foster commercial intercourse with foreign nations and to safeguard American business abroad; International commodity agreements; international education; and protection of American citizens abroad and expatriation." U.S. foreign policy and foreign aid have been the subject of much debate, praise and criticism both domestically and abroad.
                              Asked if the WikiLeaks of 2010 would damage American relations with other countries, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates noted that "governments deal with the United States because it's in their interest, not because they like us, not because they trust us, and not because they believe we can keep secrets."
                              Let's start at the beginning.. "to create a more secure, democratic, and prosperous world for the benefit of the American people and the international community."

                              Translation: We will remove any regime that does not conform to our template, or that of our closest allies.

                              Next.... "export controls, including nonproliferation of nuclear technology and nuclear hardware"

                              Translation: We will not allow our enemies the right to defend themselves.

                              Finally on this point....."governments deal with the United States because it's in their interest, not because they like us, not because they trust us, and not because they believe we can keep secrets."

                              Translation: If they don't deal with us on a political level, we will threaten invasion to remove them from power.

                              Cheating again...

                              The United States has seven major non-NATO allies in the Greater Middle East region. These allies are Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, Kuwait, Pakistan, and Morocco. Israel and Egypt are leading recipients of foreign aid, receiving 2.75 billion and 1.75 billion in 2010. Turkey is host to approximately 90 B61 nuclear bombs at Incirlik Air Base. Other allies include Qatar, where 3,500 US troops are based.


                              Lets just cut to the chase...... "Turkey is host to approximately 90 B61 Nuclear bombs."

                              In a blatant act of intimidation, American has arranged to place a nuclear strike force well within range of those Muslim states it does not hold any influence over.


                              To bring this all down to one sentence... If you don't allow American to do what it want's, they will look at finding a way to invade on 'anti-terror' grounds.

                              And you wonder why a minority of Muslims take offense to this???
                              Canker

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