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  • pillapow
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 3323

    #3046
    Hang on, So you have to be pro-Hodgson to post in here...... Theres only 4 or 5 regulars that post in here and my view is the same as lfc4life's You lot have a different view.... Theres a hell of a lot more people on the "real" LFC websites who think roy is out of his depth... As im sure you are well aware of.. I am not trying to wind any of you up, If i want to do that i'll go to the united thread... I post my view and get called a dickhead.. That comment shows exactly what you are my friend.....


    I am obsessed with Liverpool Football Club, I think you are too !

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    • Bulld0g
      V.I.P. Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 7158

      #3047
      You lot ?? If there's only 4 or 5 posting and you agree with one other person, then thats 40 -50% agree with you, hardly in a small minority

      THE TRUTH
      The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

      Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
      The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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      • Walkinmyshadow
        DK Veteran
        • Nov 2008
        • 712

        #3048
        Originally posted by pillapow
        Hang on, So you have to be pro-Hodgson to post in here....




        Listen mate i would love to dislike Hodgon, but i cant, hes impossible not to like...A proper football man.. i've too much respect for him.
        What you fail to realise is that he is working with Rafa's legacy, a squad full of average or below average players (i know the obvious exceptions) who he is trying to get to grips with their strengths and weaknesses.
        Jeez he's got 6 games under his belt and calling for his head is madness, as is wanting "King Kenny" back.. (thats ~~~~in hilarious btw)
        Maybe RH is not the man to revive LFC, but he needs more than half a dozen games at the very least to prove that he can, give the man a break, he deserves that.

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        • imanob
          Top Poster
          • Jul 2009
          • 188

          #3049
          Originally posted by Walkinmyshadow
          Listen mate i would love to dislike Hodgon, but i cant, hes impossible not to like...A proper football man.. i've too much respect for him.
          What you fail to realise is that he is working with Rafa's legacy, a squad full of average or below average players (i know the obvious exceptions) who he is trying to get to grips with their strengths and weaknesses.
          Jeez he's got 6 games under his belt and calling for his head is madness, as is wanting "King Kenny" back.. (thats ~~~~in hilarious btw)
          Maybe RH is not the man to revive LFC, but he needs more than half a dozen games at the very least to prove that he can, give the man a break, he deserves that.
          yes but would you have him as your next manager ?

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          • Bulld0g
            V.I.P. Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 7158

            #3050
            Originally posted by imanob
            yes but would you have him as your next manager ?
            If they were in our position they too may not have any other choice but to appoint him. Can't you see that ?

            THE TRUTH
            The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

            Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
            The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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            • opsmonkey
              V.I.P. Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 5379

              #3051
              I think he'll come good in the end.. he's on every UEFA & FIFA technical panel going, the man's football knowledge is second to none..

              Benitez was out of his depth, G&H were a massive smokescreen for him to hide his failings behind..

              The choice of managers we had, RH was by far the best qualified and lets face it, he's British.. I've had enough of Johnny Foreigner at Liverpool FC

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              • thered
                V.I.P. Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 4915

                #3052
                Originally posted by pillapow
                Hodgsons not the right man.......... He was the last one they went to because others turned the job down... Bad, desperate decisions by the board......... You keep the faith for roy but dont try and convince me to do the same..........
                hodgson was/is a decent manager that fell in liverpools price bracket at the current time

                they may have afforded a different manager for a few more quid but to attract big name managers you need to promise them a good wage and a big transfer kitty is an absolute must

                which obviously isnt there, roy hodgson has come to a club knowing they havent much cash and need to get shot of players to raise some probably in the hope that he can get somewhere around the european spots like at fulham on a shoestring and stabilise the clubs position till its sold

                if he does well its a bonus but a handful of games doesnt make him a bad manager i think personally with the restrictions at liverpool he is one of the best choices they could have made

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                • boomer39
                  DK Veteran
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 2818

                  #3053
                  Originally posted by pillapow
                  Not really mate no........ As for sacking Roy, When did i say "sack him" ............... I havent, I said the sooner he f?cks off the better....... Which believe it or not Boomer, Is true.......

                  So you lot think Poulson, Wilson & Konchesky are worthy of the shirt.......... They arent...... Would not be able to compete at CL level....... 3 signings by roy and the 3 or (2) worst players for us, I rate Leiva above both of them..
                  lucas???????????? ffs, now i know you are a bluenose.....
                  YNWA..

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                  • boomer39
                    DK Veteran
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2818

                    #3054
                    Originally posted by pillapow
                    Your right but it still doesnt hide the fact that 4million pound signings are shite, We shouldnt have players in the 1st team worth any less than 10million, How Babel is valued at 9-10 million i will never understand.
                    and who do you thank for that signing........??? roy???
                    buggerov cost 30mill... worth it????
                    YNWA..

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                    • opsmonkey
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 5379

                      #3055
                      Not content with trying to unsettle Fabregas and failing they look to be turning our way... disgusting horrible coonts..

                      Sky Sports | Football | Premier League | News | Pique urges Torres to leave

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                      • camelv
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 1202

                        #3056
                        keep the faith

                        when kenny talks everyone listens

                        Don't blame Gillett and Hicks for slump, Dalglish tells Liverpool FC players > Liverpool FC > Sport | Click Liverpool





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                        • boomer39
                          DK Veteran
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 2818

                          #3057
                          Originally posted by pillapow
                          Hang on, So you have to be pro-Hodgson to post in here...... Theres only 4 or 5 regulars that post in here and my view is the same as lfc4life's You lot have a different view.... Theres a hell of a lot more people on the "real" LFC websites who think roy is out of his depth... As im sure you are well aware of.. I am not trying to wind any of you up, If i want to do that i'll go to the united thread... I post my view and get called a dickhead.. That comment shows exactly what you are my friend.....
                          no ,mate, not pro hodgson.... just pro LIVERPOOL F.C.
                          YNWA..

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                          • wongers
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 734

                            #3058
                            Originally posted by Bulld0g
                            Come on lads let keep it civil. We're all supposed to be on the same side
                            bulldog look at his avator and then read my comment i was taking the p*ss

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                            • koppit
                              DK Veteran
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 587

                              #3059
                              Originally posted by pillapow
                              What is it, We havent had a start to the season as bad as this in how many decades? Some teams play negative tactics and get the results, We are playing negatively and getting barely any results... Roy is out of his depth without a doubt and i cant see it getting any better, The quality is there its just not being managed right.... As for his interviews, they are worse than his tactics.
                              m8 you are entitled to your opinion, we are all frustrated by whats happening at the club both on and off the pitch,but you have to get some perspective. the club is broke. everything we do is influenced by that.roy may have been last on the clubs list,i dont know,he wasnt on mine but he is the manager.hes only had three months in charge. thats not nearly enough time to influence the team.we are still playing the negative raffa football because thats what the players choose to do, it will take time to break that habit.
                              as for the players,we can only spend what we have,that isnt just the transfer fee but the wages as well ?60,000 x 52 =. looking back its clear to see that raffa made a lot of bad decisions.which have left us once again with a squad that isnt good enough and which we lose money on if any of them get moved on
                              there is no point posting that hes crap or they are crap because thats all the money allows us to have

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                              • Bulld0g
                                V.I.P. Member
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 7158

                                #3060
                                A Texas Tycoon Learns a Lesson: Don't Mess With Liverpudlians

                                By DAVID ENRICH And GREGORY ZUCKERMAN

                                In the old days, English soccer hooligans settled scores with knives and broken bottles. As Texas billionaire Tom Hicks is learning this week, the weapons of choice these days—camera phones, Twitter and spam emails—can be almost as scary.

                                Mr. Hicks, co-owner of England's hallowed Liverpool FC, is on the run from a mob of angry fans who blame him for the team's tailspin. The 118-year-old club was one of England's best when he bought it in 2007. Since then, the crippling debt load he took on to buy Liverpool has strained the team's finances and contributed to its woes on the pitch.

                                Now, Liverpool faithful are waging a fierce campaign to evict the American owner. Their strategy: Scare away banks and other financiers who might throw Mr. Hicks a lifeline, starving Mr. Hicks of needed cash and forcing him to sell. To do that, they are using the tools of the digital age to track Mr. Hicks' efforts to drum up money, then bombard would-be lenders with thousands of irate emails, phone calls and Tweets.

                                On Tuesday afternoon, Mr. Hicks learned firsthand what it's like to be the prey in a digital hunt.

                                Around 3:40 p.m., as Mr. Hicks sat on a sidewalk bench in midtown Manhattan, he was spotted by Liverpool native Paul Wilson. It occurred to Mr. Wilson, a 35-year-old financial consultant, that the offices of Deutsche Bank AG and J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. were on the same street. He guessed that Mr. Hicks and his son, Tom Hicks Jr., might be visiting the banks to plead for funds.

                                So Mr. Wilson whipped out his BlackBerry, snapped some photos, and zapped the images to his wife, Erin McCloskey. Then he trailed Mr. Hicks walking into the lobby of the building that houses Deutsche.

                                "I didn't throw my coffee on him, but the thought did cross my mind," Mr. Wilson said Wednesday.

                                Ms. McCloskey quickly posted the photos on Twitter and explained the circumstances.

                                Over in Liverpool, the Hicks sighting was like an open-net goal for Alan Kayll, a 40-year-old cab driver who is a ringleader of the anti-Hicks campaign. Mr. Kayll quickly penned a form letter to J.P. Morgan and Deutsche officials urging them not to help Mr. Hicks refinance roughly ?200 million ($313 million) that is owed to Royal Bank of Scotland Group PLC, stemming from his purchase of the team.

                                "If you join Tom Hicks in raping and pillaging Liverpool Football Club, then you will be making a very powerful enemy," his letter read in part. "You are facing an energized, well-informed mass of Liverpool fans from around the world."

                                He posted the letter online, along with the email addresses of executives at Deutsche and J.P. Morgan.

                                An hour later, a senior J.P. Morgan executive had already received 30 emails from Liverpool fans, with new messages landing every few minutes. "It's totally viral right now," the executive said, deleting emails as they arrived. Public-relations staff at Deutsche said they received hundreds.

                                Neither bank is in talks with Mr. Hicks, said people familiar with the situation. Through a spokesman, Mr. Hicks declined to comment on Tuesday's events or his stewardship of the team.

                                The team's financial woes have hurt its performance. Liverpool finished last season in seventh place, a disaster for fans accustomed to being in England's top four. A team official said this week that the cost of servicing its debts is depleting club resources. Fans argue that makes it tougher to recruit top players.

                                Meanwhile, in Manhattan on Tuesday afternoon, the melee was just beginning. Adam Eljarrah, an 18-year-old Liverpool fan attending New York University, saw Ms. McCloskey's Twitter messages. He showed up outside Deutsche's skyscraper on Park Avenue. The pre-med freshman carried a poster, popular among Liverpool supporters in England, declaring that Mr. Hicks and his co-owner are "Not Welcome ANYWHERE."

                                Mr. Eljarrah says he loitered outside the building for about 45 minutes, hoping to confront Mr. Hicks. Around 6:30 p.m., Mr. Hicks emerged. According to a person familiar with the incident, the younger Mr. Hicks spotted Mr. Eljarrah—identifiable in his red-and-white Liverpool scarf—and told a nearby cop: "This guy is trouble."

                                As the police officer intercepted Mr. Eljarrah, he says, he waved his sign and yelled, "Get out of our club!"

                                Liverpool fans aren't the only ones lashing out at American ownership. Manchester United fans have mounted a campaign against the family of American businessman Malcolm Glazer, which owns the team and has loaded it with debt.

                                In Liverpool, fans who are angling to remove Mr. Hicks are sporting scarves bearing a "Thanks But No Yank$!" slogan.

                                Lately, financial institutions have borne the brunt of Liverpool's rage. Fans have been flooding RBS with letters and phone calls urging the bank to seize the club and give Mr. Hicks the boot. Top executives' inboxes sometimes have been hit with several hundred emails per day.

                                A few weeks ago, some fans started a Facebook page encouraging people to boycott RBS. Mr. Kayll, the cab driver, drew up lists of financial institutions Mr. Hicks is believed to have approached, posting them on a website he helps run that urges fans to help oust Mr. Hicks.

                                The site features an image of a blood-drenched RBS logo. The site's motto: "We will go as far as we need to."

                                Despite the site's menacing slogan and graphic, Mr. Kayll says his group is "totally against violence. We're a group of passionate fans trying to save their football club. All professional people with families."

                                The campaign hit Stephen Schwarzman, the billionaire co-founder of Blackstone Partners, whose GSO Capital Partners hedge fund considered participating in a deal to help Mr. Hicks refinance the RBS loan. By Monday, GSO had backed out of the talks. A Blackstone spokesman, Peter Rose, said the emails (including thousands aimed at Mr. Schwarzman) didn't affect GSO's decision not to participate in the deal.

                                That wasn't the message Mr. Kayll got. Driving his cab in Liverpool Tuesday morning, he says he received a call from London-based GSO executive Michael Whitman. Mr. Kayll says Mr. Whitman told him GSO lost interest in part thanks to the pressure campaign. "He said, 'We understand the passion of Liverpool supporters and obviously took that into consideration,'" Mr. Kayll says.

                                Mr. Whitman didn't respond to requests for comment. Blackstone acknowledges that Mr. Whitman and Mr. Kayll spoke, but deny he said the email campaign forced GSO out of the deal.

                                Still basking in victory hours later, Mr. Kayll was euphoric when the Hicks photos from New York dropped into his lap. He crowed: "We know his every move.

                                THE TRUTH
                                The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

                                Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
                                The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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