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  • rapscallion
    Top Poster
    • Jul 2009
    • 141

    #2056
    Originally posted by axpk95
    would you trust rafa with 70/80 million to spend ?
    No he might someone sh1te like Torres, Masch Reina Alonso Garcia, Agger. Much better with Curbs or Mon THEY HAVE WON LOADS AND LOADS.

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    • thered
      V.I.P. Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 4915

      #2057
      Originally posted by boomer39
      fa cup.. 2006.. cl runners up 2007, cl semis, 2008, epl runners up 2009.... yeh.. a great failure...
      who's squad could he have won with in 2005?? graham souness's? come on mate he's not done too badly has he.. as i keep saying, were we all saying this 12 months ago?????
      yeh you pretty much gave a bunch of failures

      if you measure success by finishing 2nd 4th or 7th he's a great manager

      and for the record most people were pi55ed last year after his stupid rants probably cost you the title

      im all for benitez tbh as are most united fans

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      • Bulld0g
        V.I.P. Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 7158

        #2058
        For me, the problem is. for all the money he's spent, The squad as a whole is not good enough. It's his squad and his tactics that win or lose games.

        He's far too negative. When he does unleash them, they do play good football.Sadly it's not vey often. He plays his teams with the attitude of we're not going to lose rather than, we're going to win.

        I really wanted him to prove me and lots of fans like me wrong and play good open attacking exciting football. Unfortunately, theres been too many times this season and the first half of last season, when i've come out of the ground and commented on a boring display. Sadly Rafa is not going to win the league for Liverpool football club. We are going backwards and not forwards. On paper his record looks good at Liverpool, so did Roy Evan's and we were never going to win the league with him neither. Two nice enough fellas , but not good enough.

        THE TRUTH
        The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

        Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
        The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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        • koppit
          DK Veteran
          • Dec 2008
          • 587

          #2059
          rafas spending is a red herring his tactics are the problem

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          • boomer39
            DK Veteran
            • Dec 2008
            • 2818

            #2060
            Originally posted by thered
            yeh you pretty much gave a bunch of failures

            if you measure success by finishing 2nd 4th or 7th he's a great manager

            and for the record most people were pi55ed last year after his stupid rants probably cost you the title

            im all for benitez tbh as are most united fans
            come back on sunday if you finish 2nd!! failure?? oh, no you won the league cup, or does this count???
            YNWA..

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            • rapscallion
              Top Poster
              • Jul 2009
              • 141

              #2061
              ?27M net spend over the last 3 years. Spurs City and Villa all have outspent us even though Liverpool have raked in CL money. Rafa has had a bad season but then again so has Gerrard. Might as well get rid of him too.

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              • thered
                V.I.P. Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 4915

                #2062
                Originally posted by boomer39
                come back on sunday if you finish 2nd!! failure?? oh, no you won the league cup, or does this count???
                no it doesnt barring a miracle on sunday this season is a failure league cups mickey mouse

                i measure succes boomer on winning trophys if your happy finishing second or seventh thats up to you but i would of thought that being a liverpool supporter that being first is all that counts

                success can also be measured by progress like spurs or city for instance but you and i are not spurs or city winning titles and cups is the only thing that doesnt present failure

                looking back boomer this was supposed to be your season the best player in world football IMO gone tevez gone,chelsea's ageing squad barely seen a decent signing since mourinho went there for the taking i was hearing big things the fans expected more

                its all ended in failure in fact if everton didnt have such a 5hit start you would have struggled to come 7th

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                • rapscallion
                  Top Poster
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 141

                  #2063
                  Martin, You Can Do The Minutes – Spirit Of Shankly – Liverpool Supporters' Union

                  Love the PS

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                  • boomer39
                    DK Veteran
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2818

                    #2064
                    Originally posted by thered
                    no it doesnt barring a miracle on sunday this season is a failure league cups mickey mouse

                    i measure succes boomer on winning trophys if your happy finishing second or seventh thats up to you but i would of thought that being a liverpool supporter that being first is all that counts

                    success can also be measured by progress like spurs or city for instance but you and i are not spurs or city winning titles and cups is the only thing that doesnt present failure

                    looking back boomer this was supposed to be your season the best player in world football IMO gone tevez gone,chelsea's ageing squad barely seen a decent signing since mourinho went there for the taking i was hearing big things the fans expected more

                    its all ended in failure in fact if everton didnt have such a 5hit start you would have struggled to come 7th
                    spurs and city made progress??? show me how???
                    YNWA..

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                    • koppit
                      DK Veteran
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 587

                      #2065
                      read somewhere there is a proven link between the spend on wages and where you finish in the league. last year we were 5th highest spenders behind city, chelsea, utd and spurs. last year we overachieved.the hopes of supporters dont win points

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                      • koppit
                        DK Veteran
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 587

                        #2066
                        Originally posted by thered
                        yeh you pretty much gave a bunch of failures

                        if you measure success by finishing 2nd 4th or 7th he's a great manager

                        and for the record most people were pi55ed last year after his stupid rants probably cost you the title

                        im all for benitez tbh as are most united fans
                        i dont know anyone who was pissed about what he said just that he made the wrong point. as for the title that probably had more to do with not winning enough games

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                        • koppit
                          DK Veteran
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 587

                          #2067
                          Originally posted by rapscallion
                          ?27M net spend over the last 3 years. Spurs City and Villa all have outspent us even though Liverpool have raked in CL money. Rafa has had a bad season but then again so has Gerrard. Might as well get rid of him too.
                          the net spend for 08/09 was ?2.5mil and this year ?10,000
                          2008/09

                          Free – Philip Degen: Garbage, but free.
                          ?7m - Andrea Dossena: Italian international left back. Hasn’t settled. Bad signing.
                          ?3.5m – Diego Cavalieri: Reserve keeper. Only played league cup games so far.
                          ?1.5m – David N’gog: Young French striker. Promising.
                          ?19m – Robbie Keane: Everyone made up when we signed him. Didn’t work out and sold back to Spurs for ?16m.
                          ?8m - Albert Riera: Spanish international. Started well but jury still out.

                          Total bought: ?39m

                          ?4m – John Arne Riise: Good servant but form tailed off. Snapped their hands off at ?4m.
                          Free – Harry Kewell: Harry who?
                          Undisclosed – Anthony Le Tallec: Houllier youngster finally released. Fee not known.
                          ?11m – Peter Crouch: Laughing stock bought for ?7m. Great signing. Wanted first team football.
                          ?2.25m – Danny Guthrie: Youngster from Acadamy thought not good enough.
                          ?3.25m – Scott Carson: Injury prone and Reina now first choice. Sold at profit.
                          Undisclosed – Steve Finnan: Sold for a fee believed to be ?1m
                          ?16m – Robbie Keane: Didn’t work out.
                          Undisclosed – Jack Hobbs: Young defender that didn’t progress. Sold for believed to ?1.5m.

                          Total sold: ?36.5m

                          2008/09 net spend: ?2.5m


                          2009/10

                          ?17.5m – Glen Johnson: Big fee, but has been brilliant so far.
                          ?17.1m - Alberto Aquilani: Injured so far but meant to be a class act. Highly rated in Italy.
                          ?2m – Sotirios Kyrgiakos: Last minute signing to fill Hyypia’s shoes. Only money we had to spend.
                          ?160,000 – Daniel Ayala: Young defender, played a few times this season and looked promising.

                          Total bought: ?36.76m

                          ?250,000 – Paul Anderson: Youngster that didn’t progess.
                          Free – Jermaine Pennant: Out of contract. Poor signing.
                          Free – Miki Roque: No idea who he is. Bought for peanuts.
                          ?3m – Sebastian Leto: Signed for ?1.8m but didn’t get a work permit. Had to sell.
                          ?3.5m – Alvaro Arbeloa: Wanted to leave and out of contract in the summer.
                          ?30m – Xabi Alonso: Wanted to leave. Bought for ?10.7m. Great signing.

                          Total sold: ?36.75m

                          2009/10 net spend: ?10,000

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                          • pillapow
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 3323

                            #2068
                            Looks like rafas wifes fitting in over ere, In which case hes going nowhere.


                            I am obsessed with Liverpool Football Club, I think you are too !

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                            • wongers
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 734

                              #2069
                              Originally posted by koppit
                              the net spend for 08/09 was ?2.5mil and this year ?10,000
                              2008/09

                              Free ? Philip Degen: Garbage, but free.
                              ?7m - Andrea Dossena: Italian international left back. Hasn?t settled. Bad signing.
                              ?3.5m ? Diego Cavalieri: Reserve keeper. Only played league cup games so far.
                              ?1.5m ? David N?gog: Young French striker. Promising.
                              ?19m ? Robbie Keane: Everyone made up when we signed him. Didn?t work out and sold back to Spurs for ?16m.
                              ?8m - Albert Riera: Spanish international. Started well but jury still out.

                              Total bought: ?39m

                              ?4m ? John Arne Riise: Good servant but form tailed off. Snapped their hands off at ?4m.
                              Free ? Harry Kewell: Harry who?
                              Undisclosed ? Anthony Le Tallec: Houllier youngster finally released. Fee not known.
                              ?11m ? Peter Crouch: Laughing stock bought for ?7m. Great signing. Wanted first team football.
                              ?2.25m ? Danny Guthrie: Youngster from Acadamy thought not good enough.
                              ?3.25m ? Scott Carson: Injury prone and Reina now first choice. Sold at profit.
                              Undisclosed ? Steve Finnan: Sold for a fee believed to be ?1m
                              ?16m ? Robbie Keane: Didn?t work out.
                              Undisclosed ? Jack Hobbs: Young defender that didn?t progress. Sold for believed to ?1.5m.

                              Total sold: ?36.5m

                              2008/09 net spend: ?2.5m


                              2009/10

                              ?17.5m ? Glen Johnson: Big fee, but has been brilliant so far.
                              ?17.1m - Alberto Aquilani: Injured so far but meant to be a class act. Highly rated in Italy.
                              ?2m ? Sotirios Kyrgiakos: Last minute signing to fill Hyypia?s shoes. Only money we had to spend.
                              ?160,000 ? Daniel Ayala: Young defender, played a few times this season and looked promising.

                              Total bought: ?36.76m

                              ?250,000 ? Paul Anderson: Youngster that didn?t progess.
                              Free ? Jermaine Pennant: Out of contract. Poor signing.
                              Free ? Miki Roque: No idea who he is. Bought for peanuts.
                              ?3m ? Sebastian Leto: Signed for ?1.8m but didn?t get a work permit. Had to sell.
                              ?3.5m ? Alvaro Arbeloa: Wanted to leave and out of contract in the summer.
                              ?30m ? Xabi Alonso: Wanted to leave. Bought for ?10.7m. Great signing.

                              Total sold: ?36.75m

                              2009/10 net spend: ?10,000
                              makes interesting reading m8

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                              • koppit
                                DK Veteran
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 587

                                #2070
                                cant claim any credit picked it up here Players signed by Rafael Benitez
                                this is interesting too FAO Open-Minded Football Journalists | The Tomkins Times | Paul Tomkins' blog about Liverpool Football Club (LFC)

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