Bulld0gs Liverpool Thread

[Shady]

the 'thanks' brigade? in that i thank posts that i agree with? guilty

[Wolfpack]

i have coached in america so i know exactly the the level over there, its getting better all the time.

my uncle is one of the coaches on the candian national womens team also, the standard amazed me to be honest, i have sat in on coaching sessions and played with them and they would put many men to shame

you also said this "Now everyone here knows you will never make a career being a football manger."

but i am nearly a uefa b licence coach, i put alot of work into football, sure i will never make it to the top. I know that but my love for the sport has allowed me to coach and play in many different countries, but its not through luck, its through hard work and dedication.

liverpool must build a team that does not rely on gerrard and im glad kenny has made great steps towards that already, if you think we should build our team around a 32 year old gerrard who has injury problem, i disagree.

there is a reason why i disagree with alot of what you say, and its becuase you slate alot of our players and kenny at times, but i know just how hard it is to make it as a pro footballer and a pro coach....trust me, even the guys you call turkeys can play!

at the top level, they are all brilliant players, its the mindset and mentality that changes when they actually play on the pitch. the pressure fans like yourself put these guys under is the reason they dont perform and struggle.

behind closed doors, with no camera's you should see what some of the "turkeys" can do with a football....your jaw would drop.

alot of people hammer me because what i say gets taken as me being a "know it all" or "superior" but its not that...

i have a laugh on this forum with people, much of what i say is a joke.....but i have expereinced football on many different levels and in many different countries, both as a coach and as a player.

i told people i play semi pro once on here, and they tried to laugh at me. thats why i never bothered to post the above before.

All i said is If you think Kenny built a team that don't need Gerrard your out of your mind! All i have been saying all year that Liverpool could of spent the money on better players than Carroll Adam Henderson and the player i hate the most Downing. Carroll has hope but the rest will only be bench players. This is the reason why i get on Kenny cause he keeps sticking with these losers that has caused Liverpool to drop too many points this year? I'm sure you love the sport but just because you coach don't mean you get the last word. If your satisfied with the Carling Cup it's ok but i feel Liverpool FC is much bigger than that and if they don't make a CL spot were going to be stuck buying more turkeys.

[sgerrard]

All i said is If you think Kenny built a team that don't need Gerrard your out of your mind! All i have been saying all year that Liverpool could of spent the money on better players than Carroll Adam Henderson and the player i hate the most Downing. Carroll has hope but the rest will only be bench players. This is the reason why i get on Kenny cause he keeps sticking with these losers that has caused Liverpool to drop too many points this year? I'm sure you love the sport but just because you coach don't mean you get the last word. If your satisfied with the Carling Cup it's ok but i feel Liverpool FC is much bigger than that and if they don't make a CL spot were going to be stuck buying more turkeys.

where in the above post did i say my word is final?! I tried to explain how tough football is at the higest level and that even the players you "hate" and call "turkeys" really arent as bad as you think

but you have chosen to ignore that by again slating our players and kenny.

if we lost to spurs 2mrw, who are the best team in the prem right now, you will be back here saying "i told you so"

and for that reason you will never really understand where im coming from and will never really understand what football is all about......in my opinion.

also i said we need to build a team the doesnt revolve around gerrard, and doesnt have him as our main focal point anymore, but again you just pick and chose what you read and then reply to whatever is in your head.

i meet fans like you down the pub all the time, or even on forums, we have a good laugh, and i like hearing what they think.....

i have learnt from alot of great coaches in my time, who have made me a better player, coach and fan. i think you should take up a coaching course, they are great fun and teach you alot more about football and open your eyes

play for a local team, again its really good fun, you make good friends and it will make you see football differently

[redtide11]

where in the above post did i say my word is final?! I tried to explain how tough football is at the higest level and that even the players you "hate" and call "turkeys" really arent as bad as you think

but you have chosen to ignore that by again slating our players and kenny.

if we lost to spurs 2mrw, who are the best team in the prem right now, you will be back here saying "i told you so"

and for that reason you will never really understand where im coming from and will never really understand what football is all about......in my opinion.

also i said we need to build a team the doesnt revolve around gerrard, and doesnt have him as our main focal point anymore, but again you just pick and chose what you read and then reply to whatever is in your head.

i meet fans like you down the pub all the time, or even on forums, we have a good laugh, and i like hearing what they think.....

i have learnt from alot of great coaches in my time, who have made me a better player, coach and fan. i think you should take up a coaching course, they are great fun and teach you alot more about football and open your eyes

play for a local team, again its really good fun, you make good friends and it will make you see football differently

Getting your excuse in early I see

[tshirtman]

if we lost to spurs 2mrw, who are the best team in the prem right now

I think you'll find City are the best team in the prem right now,
or are they at the top of the league by chance,
and it pure luck they have scored the most goals, while conceding the least, figures don't lie.

[redtide11]

I think you'll find City are the best team in the prem right now,
or are they at the top of the league by chance,
and it pure luck they have scored the most goals, while conceding the least, figures don't lie.

You will find that they do in here m8

Look out though they're behind you

[zee24]

the utd fans end up in this thread just as much as the Liverpool fans find themselves in the utd one, if you say we are only there to wind you up then wtf are you in ere? to do the same. so get of your high horse

[redtide11]

the utd fans end up in this thread just as much as the Liverpool fans find themselves in the utd one, if you say we are only there to wind you up then wtf are you in ere? to do the same. so get of your high horse

I have never complained of you zee and your welcome to come have banter and same for anyones else but it does swing and roundabout. Spurs for you next, well that sounds like a tough game so maybe time for that famous sense of humor to unfurl itself.
Dont panic Mr Mannering

[sgerrard]

I think you'll find City are the best team in the prem right now,
or are they at the top of the league by chance,
and it pure luck they have scored the most goals, while conceding the least, figures don't lie.

As much as i want city to win the league spurs are the most dangerous attacking team in the prem right now. They play the best football and beat teams with ease...more so than united and city

[sgerrard]

Getting your excuse in early I see

You need a girlfriend

[Wolfpack]

sgerrard i get what you say but those players might be good playing for a team like Stoke but not for Liverpool. I can't believe Kenny didn't buy a holding midfielder that we desperately need. Good thing Suarez is back. Lets hope Kenny keeps Downing on the bench and starts Bellamy in his place.

[sgerrard]

sgerrard i get what you say but those players might be good playing for a team like Stoke but not for Liverpool. I can't believe Kenny didn't buy a holding midfielder that we desperately need. Good thing Suarez is back. Lets hope Kenny keeps Downing on the bench and starts Bellamy in his place.

Kenny wasnt to know that lucas would get such a bad injury, and i think he wants to give spearing a fair chance to prove himself in that position also.

You have totally ignored him in your above post, so i guess he is another player you dont rate? But how do we sell him if he doesnt play? We add value to him by giving him games because he gets prem expereince but just couldnt quite cut it at a top club. and then maybe sell him in the summer for 4-6 million? and then use that, add more, and buy the player you crave?

We also have connar coady coming through, who is starting to play well for the reserves and looking stronger every game and craig roddan looks decent so far, both are 18 years old.

We cant just buy a new player for every position because of their wages what would we do with spearing if we brought another holding mid? His wages would hurt us to the tune of about 2-3 million a season just to be on the bench?

Then we end up in the same place we were when kenny took over, loads of fringe players, not playing and eating up huge wages.......this means we cant buy more players again.

You cant just have 30-40 players sitting around like we did before all on 30,000+ a week....thats the main reason we couldnt buy before. You should know this as its been our problem for 10+ years.

We buy more and more shit, the reserves dont get a chance, so they have no value when we try to sell them, we get stuck with dead wood all around the club who eat up our wage bill budget and it means we cant buy anybody until we sell....

But how do we sell players that dont play?

Kenny is doing the absolute right thing. We cant go the way we have been for the last 20 years, he is seeing the bigger picture......its not all about "now now now"

[ron007]

sgerrard i get what you say but those players might be good playing for a team like Stoke but not for Liverpool. I can't believe Kenny didn't buy a holding midfielder that we desperately need. Good thing Suarez is back. Lets hope Kenny keeps Downing on the bench and starts Bellamy in his place.

Wolfpack i dont think you appreciate how far liverpool fc has fallen.
Yes every team would like champions league football but we just arnt good enought yet.You cant blame Kenny for that he is trying to build a team from nothing.Its a credit to Gerrard that we have finished as high as we have for so long because he has been the best player we have had by far and on some occasions he has single handedly gained us four or five league places a season.But like carra while still being a great player he needs help to do what he has done in the past thats why we cant rely on just him.If the new players are not upto the job then they will be shipped out and replaced but like it or not they are Liverpool players now and need us all to get behind them .Yes critscize when and where its needed but try and make it constuctive and try and see some good in everything.
As has been said before everyone is entitled to an opinion and this is just mine .
All the best
Ronnie

[sgerrard]

Wolfpack i dont think you appreciate how far liverpool fc has fallen.
Yes every team would like champions league football but we just arnt good enought yet.You cant blame Kenny for that he is trying to build a team from nothing.Its a credit to Gerrard that we have finished as high as we have for so long because he has been the best player we have had by far and on some occasions he has single handedly gained us four or five league places a season.But like carra while still being a great player he needs help to do what he has done in the past thats why we cant rely on just him.If the new players are not upto the job then they will be shipped out and replaced but like it or not they are Liverpool players now and need us all to get behind them .Yes critscize when and where its needed but try and make it constuctive and try and see some good in everything.
As has been said before everyone is entitled to an opinion and this is just mine .
All the best
Ronnie

Good post mate

The team we won the champions league with in 2005 was abit of a joke. It was all down to gerrard, rafa's tactics and a few other good players. Djimi traore, igor biscan, pongolle, mellor have all won the biggest prize in football

I think the supporters are a big factor also, the vast majority get what it means to be a liverpool fan and get behind the team, which gives the players more confidence and has meant we havent fallen from grace like teams like leeds. Over the years we have had a load of shit players!

With FFP kicking in next year is all about revenue and reducing the wage bill. We havent brought through any youth players since gerrard and carra and that needs to change. Even if they arent good enough we need to be able to sell these players for decent money and that allows us to buy better players.

Players like flannigan and robinson might not be good enough, but the fact they came in and did so well last year means they are already worth 3-4 million each. If they had never played they would be woth nothing.

It cant be about now now now anymore this is what has hurt us over the last 20 years, its what hurts many clubs to be honest. Fan culture dictates the pressure applied to a manager to succeed right away...in turn that puts pressure on the owners to sack him, which forces him into the transfer market, instead of giving them time to blood in youngsters.

Thats why i trust kenny so much, he understands this like most of our fans do. We need solid foundations and a long term plan to get back to the top. We need quality, and if we cant get it, we should wait and give our youngsters a chance to prove themselves.

[lfc4life]

CHRISTIAN POULSEN says he is unlikely to return to Liverpool FC once his loan spell at French side Evian expires at the end of the season.

The Danish midfielder left LFC after one largely unsuccessful season back in August, but is contracted with the Reds until the summer of 2013.

"Liverpool? It is over for me there; said Poulsen . If I was a 25-year-old it could be different, but I will be 32 and I am not interested in being a number 20 player.

"Here, when I talk to a player, I know it could be helpful. I feel more important here."

Well let him pay off his contract at liverpool if he feels that strong about it ~~~~ him

NO player is bigger then the club!