RANGERS No 1

**hypersonic** · 10 February, 2012, 11:42

Don't worry gracieboo m8 ~ I hear that Harry Rednapps dog is about to make a bid for the Gers !

**lac** · 10 February, 2012, 13:24

Sky appear to disagree with some of you guys,

The Scottish Premier League has agreed a television deal with Sky Sports and ESPN which will run until the end of the 2016-17 season. They will pay a combined ?80m to continue to screen 30 live SPL matches each per season. The figure represents an increase of ?3m a year on the existing broadcast agreement due to end in 2014.
Central to the deal is the continuation of four Old Firm matches each season. This removes the possibility of the meaningful expansion of the 12-team SPL for which supporters have campaigned.

**southpaw83** · 10 February, 2012, 16:25

Originally posted by lac

Sky appear to disagree with some of you guys,

The Scottish Premier League has agreed a television deal with Sky Sports and ESPN which will run until the end of the 2016-17 season. They will pay a combined ?80m to continue to screen 30 live SPL matches each per season. The figure represents an increase of ?3m a year on the existing broadcast agreement due to end in 2014.
Central to the deal is the continuation of four Old Firm matches each season. This removes the possibility of the meaningful expansion of the 12-team SPL for which supporters have campaigned.

The deal would be renegotiated without Rangers. It would be worth less, sure, but the current figures clubs get aren't exactly eye watering. Celtic would be hit hardest, but they would manage the shortfall no problem.

It's lazy drivel saying it would die without them - especially as this comes from people who say its dead already.

**orientville** · 6 July, 2012, 03:33

Originally posted by johnboy1974

Scottish football is in a right mess financially. Rangers are in big trouble and so are loads of other clubs in scotland hearts included. There is no money anymore. Gloating celtic fans should remeber that it can only lead to oblivion for everyone. England dont want or need the old firm.

Well Scotland most certainly don't want Rangers

**Snowy79** · 6 July, 2012, 07:44

When the dust settles Scottish Football will not be dead. What we will have is teams that play within their financial abilities. Sure a few names will go to the wall but we'll still have youngster wanting to play football.

No Scottish team will be able to pay their directors the masive dividends they used to and even the likes of Celtic will struggle to buy in foreign players to improve their team. That and any decent player worth their salt won't want to play in a semi professional set up.

Get football back to what it should be about. Local lads playing for local teams and supported by people from their area. No more plastic supporters that only support a team due to having been brain washed into it by religion, or so they can in thier own little minds think by supporting a better team it somehow makes them a better person. Trust me it just makes them look like a sad loser.

Bring football back to the people and away from a business.

**SIMPLY THE BEST** · 6 July, 2012, 12:39

Originally posted by orientville

Well Scotland most certainly don't want Rangers

I assume that if the boot was on the other foot scotland would not want celtic as well ,or any other team that has the misfortune to go tit@ up in the same circumstances that Rangers went tit@ up and then try and come back as a newco ?

And if scotland don't want Rangers why is there all the furore about them then ? if that was the case they would just say ~~~~ off to them even coming back in the 3rd division.

One good thing that has come of this it looks like the chairmen are listening to the fans so lets hope it continues and the fans now have a major say what goes on at there clubs somehow though i rather think this is a one off.

Another thing surely more fans will start going to the games to offset the damage of not having Rangers money coming in through attendences and sponsorships etc etc etc after all the fans must now step up and play since they have so vociferously made there feelings known to scottish football.

**shankill2012** · 6 July, 2012, 14:01

Originally posted by orientville

Well Scotland most certainly don't want Rangers

Since when did you speak for the whole of Scotland ? Rangers will be back fighting for the top honours in Scottish football whether it's 1 year or 3 years or however long it takes and we will be putting teams in the spl to the sword once again as we usually did . We are RANGERS - WE ARE THE PEOPLE !

**Snowy79** · 6 July, 2012, 17:00

If Rangers put anyone to the sword it will be a first as they've never played any teams before. They're the newest club in Scotland with no wins/loses or history.

**skegsagypsy** · 6 July, 2012, 18:05

Originally posted by shankill2012

Since when did you speak for the whole of Scotland ? Rangers will be back fighting for the top honours in Scottish football whether it's 1 year or 3 years or however long it takes and we will be putting teams in the spl to the sword once again as we usually did . We are RANGERS - WE ARE THE PEOPLE !

There is NO Rangers so how can they come back

**rds60h** · 6 July, 2012, 18:16

Originally posted by Snowy79

If Rangers put anyone to the sword it will be a first as they've never played any teams before. They're the newest club in Scotland with no wins/loses or history.

It is only the Limited Company that has no record, NOT Rangers.
All the talk of illegal and immoral goings on at Rangers.....Does anybody really believe any of the other clubs Scottish and English haven't been doing things to increase revenue or reduce Tax ??? You are deluded if you do !!!!
And I do believe that this could lead to the end of Scottish Football as we know it.
Arguements about Sky should be looked at realistically...... Sky wants the Old Firm games and that is the major reason because without it they won't get the veiwing figures and so they won't get the advertising revenue which is just as important to Sky as the people subscribing to Sky.
On Sky subscriptions, there is also now campaigns being run for Rangers supporters to boycott Sky subsciptions and obvious sponsors of the SPL and any sponsors of those opposed to Rangers.
Now, although this would not be critical to the majority of the sponsors it would effect their income and this will affect the amount of money they have available to pay Sponsorship so everyone suffers.
The situation needs to be looked at and dealt with realistically taking into account the effect it will have on all of Scottish football, because if not then Scottish Football will be viewed with the same value of the Welsh Leagues.
Sorry if that upsets any Welsh people, but only being honest.

**skegsagypsy** · 6 July, 2012, 19:40

If any league is dependant on a cash flow from Sky to survive then I'm afraid it is already a failure, if what you say above were to be true, then Celtic & Rangers could do anything they like outside the rules and no one should touch them because of Sky, that I'm afraid is a load of old turtle poo.
Scottish football will survive and, who knows, may well even come out a better league now that a cash injection (providing the newco fans don't walk away) will flow into the lower divisions, giving those teams the opportunity to think better in terms of squad players.

**johnboy1974** · 6 July, 2012, 20:52

Originally posted by skegsagypsy

If any league is dependant on a cash flow from Sky to survive then I'm afraid it is already a failure, if what you say above were to be true, then Celtic & Rangers could do anything they like outside the rules and no one should touch them because of Sky, that I'm afraid is a load of old turtle poo.
Scottish football will survive and, who knows, may well even come out a better league now that a cash injection (providing the newco fans don't walk away) will flow into the lower divisions, giving those teams the opportunity to think better in terms of squad players.

Might have a good point there skegs and also if rangers start in the third think of the cash that's going to go around the lower leagues for a few years. Only hope hearts Motherwell and Aberdeen can mount a challenge to Celtic and keep the interest going in the spl.

**rds60h** · 6 July, 2012, 20:53

Skegsagypsy, you need to start reading the posts in their entirity and take on board all that is written, not what you want to twist into hateful arguement.
As has already been stated on this thread, you rarely see ground full to capacity even in the EPL. So where do you think the money comes from ?
You may say Shirt Sponsors, Stadium/Ground advertising etc. But ask yourself why they advertise with the teams ? Why ? .......... Because they will be seen Globally on Sky !!!!
I am sorry but by your thinking even your team Celtic are a failure and are dead in the water.
You have not argued the point of all teams attempting to increase revenue or avoid Tax by whatever means possible, because you know that is true. So you have tried to side step the whole arguement of Scottish Football being affected by insinuating that I believe Rangers should not be punished because of a dictate by Sky.
Far from, as I said take on board all that I have written and you will see that I have stated that Ranger need to be punished not aspersed, castigated, ostracised and vilified.
Remember they have already been fined, had points deducted, banned from Europe for 3 years and the punishment continues.
What is now happening is that Scottish Football is cutting off it's (blue)nose to spite it's face.

**skegsagypsy** · 6 July, 2012, 21:23

Oh dear this could take a while to answer rds, your convoluted response is a tad difficult to decipher but I'll give it a go and try to keep it civil. Here goes: