Rangers owner Craig Whyte gets lifetime ban from SFA

[Rodbouy]

Should have made it clearer,the tax man won the case I appeal and paid the lesser sum,at no time did I pay the full amount.
Don't be surprised if the amount Ranger owe is reduced eg interest and dare I say it penalties

I actually think it will be lower, but only say minus penalties. I don't think they will rwduce the actual tax or intrest.

Thing is, the 1st tier tribunal is what makes the outcome completely different to your court outcome. That's why their finding is pretty much final, I think they and only they can give you the right to appeal to the upper tier tribunal.

You don't get automatic right to appeal.

[mattybhoy]

No, you will find the manner in which rangers used then, in conjunction with contracts was illegal, and it why they stopped using them.

Hence why the tax man pumped use with a big bill

But then its the hmrcs fault ain't it.

It's everybody else's fault mate. The nasty taxman, the sfa, the administrators, Sir Minty, the Whyte Knight, Neil Lennon!!! But not rrrrranngezs!

[mattybhoy]

This is incorrect HMRC demanded cash (?50.00) from me account said pay it,defended myself,had to travel up to Scotland, HMRC backed down paid ?5,000.
Rangers will have some clever people in their case,certainly better than me.

Aye, you've had some really clever people working on it so far...

[SIMPLY THE BEST]

No your missing the whole concept. Rangers were handed a actual bill, not a maybe one a actual bill.

Rangers disputed this hence where it is at now.

The whole tax avoidance and evasion is just surrounding ebts as a hole and a side issue.

The problem with the rangers setup, is that they paid staff this as part of contractual work, which is a breach of the tax rules.

You could use ebt but you couldn't use them to fund extra wages which is where the two contract situation has came up.

Either way, if you want to keep denying to your self that's great. Just makes it harder to take when it DOES happen.

This bill was that based on what Hector reckoned they were due if the EBT's were deemed to be illegal and if it is proven these are kosher then how much tax are they due Hector ? apart from the 9 mill or so that shady **** whyte did a vanishing act with.

[Rodbouy]

This bill was that based on what Hector reckoned they were due if the EBT's were deemed to be illegal and if it is proven these are kosher then how much tax are they due Hector ? apart from the 9 mill or so that shady **** whyte did a vanishing act with.

Out with the final sum for the btc, then.I believe the current sum is 15m and counting.

Remember the admin team already accepted the wee tax case.

So that with the paye and monthly interest is mounting up As its not under appeal, the interest does not stop till paid in full

[SIMPLY THE BEST]

Out with the final sum for the btc, then.I believe the current sum is 15m and counting.

Remember the admin team already accepted the wee tax case.

So that with the paye and monthly interest is mounting up As its not under appeal, the interest does not stop till paid in full

Its the big tax case that we were on about regarding the EBT'S i thought ?

[Rodbouy]

I think the sum is 29m then 30m+ in interest and fines. You will find them I think in d&p financial statement as by law they had to produce actual and potential monies owed.

[mattybhoy]

BBC Sport - The stark truth facing SPL crisis club Rangers

Not a bad article on the BBC website.

[SIMPLY THE BEST]

I think the sum is 29m then 30m+ in interest and fines. You will find them I think in d&p financial statement as by law they had to produce actual and potential monies owed.

Figures were being banded about of 59 mill plus 75 mill pending the big tax case about 134 mill

[Rodbouy]

Take the fines out that and even the interest its still curtains.

[SIMPLY THE BEST]

Take the fines out that and even the interest its still curtains.

Only if they lose the big tax case would it be very dire indeed but if they win will celtic supporters come back up with the everyones against us routine as lennon has said recently ?

[Rodbouy]

Only if they lose the big tax case would it be very dire indeed but if they win will celtic supporters come back up with the everyones against us routine as lennon has said recently ?

I truly dont think you have any grasp of the situation ? What conspiracy theory?

You really dont understand the situation your club is in do you?

Even without the BTC your team is F*&%ed !!!!!!!

Even with out the BTC use had to massively chop wages because use have NO MONEY.....NO income

Use have no SEASON BOOK renewals coming in.......

Come the 1st of June wages go back up.

Legally the administration are not allowed to run the club in to more debt.

This is only 5 weeks away.

Rangers as we know it will struggle to stay afloat without the BTC.

There is NO official bids on the table.....

IF and IF use win the BTC its still going to be years before you can even sniff a league title.

What use do have is mounting debt.

Failing to pay transfer fees to clubs such as Jellyvic and for when the final payment of wallace is due then obv uefa is going to want to impose sanctions on the club and most likely why the 12 month transfer embargo is there.

But your obv confident in the club making a quick turnaround.

Good luck with that.

Win or loose the BTC use are beat for years and to quote super sally of yonder years

Ally McCoist in 1994 on Celtic nearly going bust "that's their problem, although I cannot say I'm not enjoying what's happening to them"

Well you know what GIRFUY

[KDC]

I truly dont think you have any grasp of the situation ? What conspiracy theory?

You really dont understand the situation your club is in do you?

Even without the BTC your team is F*&%ed !!!!!!!

Even with out the BTC use had to massively chop wages because use have NO MONEY.....NO income

Use have no SEASON BOOK renewals coming in.......

Come the 1st of June wages go back up.

Legally the administration are not allowed to run the club in to more debt.

This is only 5 weeks away.

Rangers as we know it will struggle to stay afloat without the BTC.

There is NO official bids on the table.....

IF and IF use win the BTC its still going to be years before you can even sniff a league title.

What use do have is mounting debt.

Failing to pay transfer fees to clubs such as Jellyvic and for when the final payment of wallace is due then obv uefa is going to want to impose sanctions on the club and most likely why the 12 month transfer embargo is there.

But your obv confident in the club making a quick turnaround.

Good luck with that.

Win or loose the BTC use are beat for years and to quote super sally of yonder years

Ally McCoist in 1994 on Celtic nearly going bust "that's their problem, although I cannot say I'm not enjoying what's happening to them"

Well you know what GIRFUY

They're going through the five steps of grief mate. They're still at the denial stage but reality will bite soon enough.

[SIMPLY THE BEST]

I truly dont think you have any grasp of the situation ? What conspiracy theory?

You really dont understand the situation your club is in do you?

Even without the BTC your team is F*&%ed !!!!!!!

Even with out the BTC use had to massively chop wages because use have NO MONEY.....NO income

Use have no SEASON BOOK renewals coming in.......

Come the 1st of June wages go back up.

Legally the administration are not allowed to run the club in to more debt.

This is only 5 weeks away.

Rangers as we know it will struggle to stay afloat without the BTC.

There is NO official bids on the table.....

IF and IF use win the BTC its still going to be years before you can even sniff a league title.

What use do have is mounting debt.

Failing to pay transfer fees to clubs such as Jellyvic and for when the final payment of wallace is due then obv uefa is going to want to impose sanctions on the club and most likely why the 12 month transfer embargo is there.

But your obv confident in the club making a quick turnaround.

Good luck with that.

Win or loose the BTC use are beat for years and to quote super sally of yonder years

Ally McCoist in 1994 on Celtic nearly going bust "that's their problem, although I cannot say I'm not enjoying what's happening to them"

Well you know what GIRFUY

They're going through the five steps of grief mate. They're still at the denial stage but reality will bite soon enough.

Firstly the celtic conspiracy theory obviously went right over your head, probably because the rabidity of your hatred with anything Rangers or so it seems.

Secondly everyone and his dog knows Rangers are going through a very difficult time at the moment and it's going to be a rollercoaster ride in the near future but what will be will be, so everything you are saying is pretty much well documented and is becoming repetitive and a bit boring tbh.

You maybe have a certain criteria in your mind to hate all things Rangers maybe you were bullied at school that would explain a lot to me all that angst and anger against something can't be healthy but hey ho life goes on.

Thirdly the in denial that keeps getting bandied about in denial about what exactly ?

[Snowy79]

Im dreading when they look into Kilmarnock's finances and find out they sold two Killie pies on the cheap to enable them to buy good enough players to spank Celtic when it mattered.