Rangers newco will not get Hearts vote, says Vladimir Romanov

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  • SIMPLY THE BEST
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    • Sep 2008
    • 293

    #1

    Rangers newco will not get Hearts vote, says Vladimir Romanov

    Rangers newco will not get Hearts vote, says Vladimir Romanov




    Hearts plan to vote against Rangers being allowed into the Scottish Premier League when clubs vote next month.

    The company which ran Rangers until last week is soon to be liquidated and Charles Green's consortium has bought the Ibrox club's assets.

    Green wants his 'newco' Rangers to replace the old one in the SPL and needs the support of seven other clubs.

    Hearts owner Vladimir Romanov says "the football mafia represented by Rangers' former owners" should not gain entry.

    In a lengthy statement on the Hearts website, Romanov expressed "deepest condolences'" to Rangers supporters "who have been lied to for so many years".

    The issue of whether Rangers will appear in next season's SPL gathered pace when attempts to exit administration via a company voluntary arrangement failed and the club began heading for liquidation.

    Should Green's group not get the required votes for top flight football, they would have to apply to fill the vacancy that would be created in the Scottish Football League and attempt to work their way up from Division Three.

    Motherwell have asked their supporters to vote on how the Fir Park club should vote on Rangers' application on 4 July while Kilmarnock have expressed concern about the financial implications of an SPL without the Ibrox side.

    Rangers entered administration in February over unpaid tax and HM Revenue Customs' vote against the CVA proposal prompted the setting up of a newco.

    "It had to happen sooner or later," said Romanov.

    "Victories were achieved not by sporting merits, but through slander, conspiracies amongst players and their poaching via third parties, unfair pressuring of referees, who in themselves are as valuable to the fabric of football as the football stars themselves.

    "All of this brought hollow victories and destroyed football.

    "There is a saying about digging a grave for someone: you get it for yourself.

    "Without these people football will become cleaner and stronger.

    "Supporters deserved a new beginning and have to accept the fact that their club has to start from the lower league, keeping order in the SPL and without creating unfair competition with other clubs."

    Romanov also turned his ire on media mogul Rupert Murdoch for what the Lithuanian-based bank owner perceives as an imbalance between television revenues for clubs in Scotland in England.

    "As regards the pitiful state of Scottish football finances, a lot of the blame should be placed at the doors of Murdoch's media," added Romanov.

    "They pay huge sums to English clubs, whilst in Scotland, where football is better supported per capita than anywhere else in Europe and there are more cable or Sky subscribers per capita than in England, clubs receive peanuts for their broadcasting rights."
  • skegsagypsy
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    • Aug 2009
    • 1230

    #2
    At last a voice of reason (never thought mad vlad would be it) fair play to Vlad, showing the b?lls that others are so far lacking!
    'If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.'
    -Bishop Desmond Tutu

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    • SIMPLY THE BEST
      DK Veteran
      • Sep 2008
      • 293

      #3
      Originally posted by skegsagypsy
      At last a voice of reason (never thought mad vlad would be it) fair play to Vlad, showing the b?lls that others are so far lacking!

      Voice of reason from mad vlad priceless.

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      • johnboy1974
        DK Veteran
        • Dec 2008
        • 3418

        #4
        Thing is hes probably right in what he says but to come out and openly say it, then he runs the risk of alienating rangers fans should the new rangers be allowed to continue in the spl.

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        • SIMPLY THE BEST
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          • Sep 2008
          • 293

          #5
          Originally posted by johnboy1974
          Thing is hes probably right in what he says but to come out and openly say it, then he runs the risk of alienating rangers fans should the new rangers be allowed to continue in the spl.
          Well if no one wants Rangers then so be it hopefully the Rangers fans will remember that and then we will see how they clubs prosper i hazard a guess it will be a lot slower (if at all) than they are used to and let's be honest there ain't many prosperous clubs as it is so good luck to them.

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          • mattybhoy
            DK Veteran
            • Dec 2009
            • 1046

            #6
            Originally posted by SIMPLY THE BEST
            Well if no one wants Rangers then so be it hopefully the Rangers fans will remember that and then we will see how they clubs prosper i hazard a guess it will be a lot slower (if at all) than they are used to and let's be honest there ain't many prosperous clubs as it is so good luck to them.
            'A particular club' not being prosperous is one of the reasons for all this.

            To the dissapointment of the SFA, the SPL and Sevco5088, it seems the feelings of some Chairman have changed in the last 6 weeks or so. They seem to have taken note of their supporters and I don't see now that Sevco5088 will be voted into the SPL.

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            • SIMPLY THE BEST
              DK Veteran
              • Sep 2008
              • 293

              #7
              Originally posted by mattybhoy
              'A particular club' not being prosperous is one of the reasons for all this.

              To the dissapointment of the SFA, the SPL and Sevco5088, it seems the feelings of some Chairman have changed in the last 6 weeks or so. They seem to have taken note of their supporters and I don't see now that Sevco5088 will be voted into the SPL.
              Indeed so, that so many spl clubs may have to rely on Rangers just shows there importance to the spl.

              Unfortunately the majority of fans are not business minded and they are voicing it from a fans perspective and this is where it could turn out to bite them if Rangers go to the 3rd division and Rangers fans remember the voracity of the way the other fans don't want them.

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              • mattybhoy
                DK Veteran
                • Dec 2009
                • 1046

                #8
                But that's not the worse case scenario for the other clubs. Now if the Sevco fans say they will boycott the clubs in 3 years time (if that's what you mean by the fans remembering) that isn't as bad as the Aberdeen and Celtic fans (to name 2 sets of supporters that have said they would look at boycotting) doing so next season. Also with Sky now coming out and saying that the contract wouldn't be ripped up it makes business sense not to allow Sevco in.

                But after all this, some chairman have spoken about sporting integrity and that being the biggest issue and not finance? I'm not sure if I believe them though..?
                Last edited by mattybhoy; 21 June, 2012, 20:47.

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                • rds60h
                  DK Veteran
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 622

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mattybhoy
                  Also with Sky now coming out and saying that the contract wouldn't be ripped up it makes business sense not to allow Sevco in.
                  I imagine the SKY statement is in the same context as Spurs announcement about keeping Harry Redknapp............ Just before they sacked him !!
                  Do you honestly think SKY will continue funding the SPL without one half of it's major appeal ? Get Real !!!
                  Vladimir Romanov speaks some sense, in that he can see what SKY are about despite the per head capita support of the football clubs and subscription to pay per view football. But why he sees Rangers as part of that I do not know, because without Rangers and Celtic the money from SKY would be considerably less if indeed any investment at all.

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                  • johnboy1974
                    DK Veteran
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 3418

                    #10
                    To me its looking increasingly like 3rd division for the gers with more clubs listening to their own fans feedback and rightly so. The only saving grace maybe sky but it looks like a deal is being brokered to get them into the 1st division and sky accepting this for one season. But would they go up in a season???

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                    • thecelticfan
                      Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 98

                      #11
                      Originally posted by johnboy1974
                      But would they go up in a season???
                      I suppose it depends on who remains...............

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                      • skegsagypsy
                        DK Veteran
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1230

                        #12
                        Dundee United have joined Hearts in going public with their plan to vote against a Rangers 'newco' being allowed into the Scottish Premier League.
                        'If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.'
                        -Bishop Desmond Tutu

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                        • mattybhoy
                          DK Veteran
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 1046

                          #13
                          Originally posted by johnboy1974
                          To me its looking increasingly like 3rd division for the gers with more clubs listening to their own fans feedback and rightly so. The only saving grace maybe sky but it looks like a deal is being brokered to get them into the 1st division and sky accepting this for one season. But would they go up in a season???
                          John you're bang on. I don't see how the Green knight & co are going to get the votes. Dundee Utd and Hearts are not the only clubs who have indicated that they would vote against it. The rushing through of a proposed merger of the Scottish league and the spl is the establishment (and a number of other clubs) looking at another way the newco wouldn't be away from the top division for at least 3 years.

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                          • skegsagypsy
                            DK Veteran
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1230

                            #14
                            Ibrox season ticket renewal money is being paid into and held by the soon-to-be-liquidated 'oldco' Rangers. Oh dear, someone has made another massive ricky as this money will be swallowed up during the liquidation process!

                            From bad to worse
                            'If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.'
                            -Bishop Desmond Tutu

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                            • vorlon2257
                              DK Veteran
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 356

                              #15
                              Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't Hearts and Dundee some of the clubs that failed to pay there players wage's on time last season, and that was with Glasgow's big 2 supporters at them match's.

                              Well I don't know how they will cope season when you only have 1 (looking likely it will only be Celtic) at there grounds. I would say that most of the SFL clubs depend on both Glasgow clubs and there away support to keep them running for a while, lets face it when none of the Glasgow clubs play any of the other SFL teams including Hearts an Dundee there grounds are almost empty.

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