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  • scottymo76
    Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 57

    #16
    Originally posted by mattybhoy
    And collect 18 million a year from the Champs League...
    If you get into the groups ans win games that is

    Far from certain thus why I referred to it as the gamble of Europe
    "No, she gets a special cologne... It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good." - Brian Fantana

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    • ray156
      DK Veteran
      • Dec 2009
      • 669

      #17
      BBC Scotland has learned of plans being put in place that would allow Rangers to move directly into Scottish Division One in the coming season.
      Rangers FC plc is soon to be liquidated and Charles Green's consortium are reforming the club.
      But Green's Rangers newco has not gained support to replace the old club in the Scottish Premier League.
      And senior Scottish football figures are proposing that Rangers start season 2012-13 in the second tier.
      There are also plans for the SPL and Scottish Football League bodies to be merged into a new organisation called 'The Scottish Professional Football League' in 12 months' time.
      SFL chief executive David Longmuir confirmed: "The SFL is trying to address the question of whether we are in a position to accommodate a solution to the Rangers FC scenario.
      "We are trying to achieve a solution which will be in the best interests of the SFL and the wider game."

      The main points of proposal documentation viewed by BBC Scotland are:
      Rangers are to be relegated with immediate effect and replaced in the SPL by Dundee
      Television rights for Rangers matches in Scottish Football League Division One are to be bought by the SPL for ?1m
      The SPL and SFL will merge into one body at the start of season 2013-14
      Play-offs between the top two divisions will be introduced in time for the coming season with one team from the top flight and three from the second tier competing for a place in the following season's SPL
      There will be an increase in the parachute payments made to clubs relegated from the SPL
      Changes will be made to the distribution model for clubs in the top two tiers with teams in the lower leagues earning a similar amount to the current set-up
      A new pyramid system will become effective from season 2014-15 that will allow a potential place in the new league format for a team from either the Highland league or newly-created 'Lowland League'
      Rangers newco's acceptance into the Scottish FA would only be approved if they accept responsibility for the football debts and fines incurred by the previous club along with their waiving of rights to a legal challenge
      All changes have to be approved by SPL and SFL clubs over the next few days. The plans require the support of eight SPL clubs and a majority of SFL clubs to be passed.
      Aberdeen chairman Stewart Milne commented: "Rangers Newco should apply to the SFA for admission and apply direct to the SFL in the same way that any other new club would do.
      "This is and remains our clubs absolute position."
      Should the proposals not gain support, it remains possible that Rangers could begin next season in Scottish Division Three, the lowest league in the senior set-up.
      Division One clubs Falkirk, Raith Rovers and latterly Morton have voiced their opposition to any plans to place the Rangers newco in the second tier.

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      • johnboy1974
        DK Veteran
        • Dec 2008
        • 3418

        #18
        Don't like it I don't want the league structures changed and playoffs introduced to accommodate the new rangers team- we should take our medicine and start from the bottom of the pile.

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        • Snowy79
          DK Veteran
          • Jan 2011
          • 1347

          #19
          If the hasbeen that was winding the fans up gets his way there won't be any Rangers at all. Like him or loathe him Green is a businessman. He's bought into Rangers as he can see money to be made. Hopefully through re-building the team. He's not even been given the chance to prove what he wants to do with Rangers and now there's calls to starve him out by not buying season tickets etc. This won't hurt Green it will just force him to look at other ways of making money.

          He has no loyalty to the club, so what makes the fans think he would sell to them if his back is against the wall. Chances are he would sell it to a property developer and make more money if his hand is forced. I certainly wouldn't sell to people that tried to shaft me.

          If the fans aren't carefull, playing in the third division will be the least of their problems.

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          • mattybhoy
            DK Veteran
            • Dec 2009
            • 1046

            #20
            Originally posted by johnboy1974
            Don't like it I don't want the league structures changed and playoffs introduced to accommodate the new rangers team- we should take our medicine and start from the bottom of the pile.
            Dignified John. I wish more could be..

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            • scottymo76
              Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 57

              #21
              Originally posted by mattybhoy
              Dignified John. I wish more could be..
              I trust u understand irony to say that with the avatar you have?

              Wouldn't shock me if you didn't even have a Cetlic Season Book for last 10 years or so.
              "No, she gets a special cologne... It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good." - Brian Fantana

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              • southpaw83
                DK Veteran
                • Sep 2008
                • 360

                #22
                Originally posted by scottymo76
                I trust u understand irony to say that with the avatar you have?

                Wouldn't shock me if you didn't even have a Cetlic Season Book for last 10 years or so.
                Bitter are we?

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                • SIMPLY THE BEST
                  DK Veteran
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 293

                  #23
                  Originally posted by scottymo76
                  I trust u understand irony to say that with the avatar you have?

                  Wouldn't shock me if you didn't even have a Cetlic Season Book for last 10 years or so.
                  Very well put m8 dignity maybe only work 1 way tho ?

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                  • ray156
                    DK Veteran
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 669

                    #24
                    now now boy's,would like this thread kept open for news discussion and general interest.

                    not closed because of slanging match starting.

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                    • satsmo
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 6397

                      #25
                      The thread will stay open, a few posts will get deleted and a few members may head the same way also.

                      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer. - Douglas Adams

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                      • mattybhoy
                        DK Veteran
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 1046

                        #26
                        Originally posted by scottymo76
                        Wouldn't shock me if you didn't even have a Cetlic Season Book for last 10 years or so.
                        Pray tell. Why wouldn't it not shock you? I really would like to know. So if you're not a season ticket holder you're not entitled to an opinion? I'm interested where you are coming from with this?

                        Area 401, Row R, Seat 27 in the North Stand Upper (the old jungle).

                        For the record it's not been a season book for at least 6 years - it's a season card.

                        Now, I take it you used to have a season card for your club? I wonder if your partner in crime did who thanked your post? And the most important question will you be getting a season card this season????
                        Last edited by mattybhoy; 30 June, 2012, 00:25.

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                        • ray156
                          DK Veteran
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 669

                          #27
                          Rangers: Charles Green gives SFA details for membership bid

                          Charles Green's Sevco consortium has lodged documents with the Scottish Football Association to support its bid for "newco" Rangers' membership.
                          The SFA requested further information on Green's plans after he submitted an application last Friday.
                          "We have received an information pack from Sevco Scotland relevant to their membership application," said the SFA.
                          The Association requires details of the company, requirements on fit and proper officials, and plans for the club.
                          Meanwhile, Green has hinted he and his Rangers newco would accept proposed conditions to win SFA membership.
                          Under plans revealed by BBC Scotland on Thursday, Rangers would go straight into Scottish Division One.

                          But they would have to accept the football debts and fines of the old Rangers and make no legal challenges.
                          Green says that "nothing in this world is free".
                          An application by Green for his newco to replace the old Rangers in the Scottish Premier League did not gain the support of top flight clubs and it was expected the club's next port of call would be applying to enter the Scottish Football League in Division Three.
                          But senior Scottish football figures are proposing that Rangers start next season in the second, rather than the fourth, tier.
                          Asked for his views on the proposals, the Rangers chief executive responded: "Did you refuse to pay the price of membership of your golf club?

                          "My opinion upon right or wrong doesn't matter.
                          "We will continue to work to ensure Rangers play football next season and that we can look everyone in the eye."
                          Meanwhile, Green has echoed chairman Malcolm Murray's call for unity at the club .
                          Murray issued a statement calling for for an end to "the vicious and ~~~~~~~ous blood lust" among those vying to control Rangers' destiny.
                          Former Rangers player John Brown this week announced he was leading a group looking to buy the club and encouraged fans to invest in his consortium rather than buying season tickets.
                          "It's not right that a proportion of Rangers fans continue to attack my consortium and try to undermine our rescue plans," added Green.
                          "It's not right that every two weeks a Mel Gibson appears, delivers a Braveheart statement, then doesn't deliver anything

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                          • ray156
                            DK Veteran
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 669

                            #28
                            Rangers cancel direct debit ticket payments 'to give reassurance to fans'

                            The move comes after some supporters claimed they had been unable to cancel banking arrangements made prior to the liquidation of the old club and foundation of Charles Green's newco.
                            Rangers financial director Brian Stockbridge said that payments would have been taken from accounts on July 6, but that the decision had been made to cancel direct debits "for the sake of clarity and to give reassurance to fans".
                            However, he added that the club was working with its bank to ensure that fans who wished to pay for their season tickets in instalments would still be able to do so.
                            In a statement issued on Saturday, Mr Stockbridge said: "Over the last few days it has become apparent that there is confusion regarding direct debit arrangements for season tickets.
                            "This has arisen primarily because new direct debit arrangements had to be put in place following the creation of the new company.
                            "Supporters have given us valuable feedback on this issue saying they are unclear on whether their direct debit instructions were tied to the old company in administration or the new company.
                            "All direct debits would have been paid to the new company from July 6 and all season ticket funds are to be used solely for the benefit of the Club and its supporters.
                            "However, it is clear from feedback from supporters that there remains some concern about the transfer of direct debit instructions from the old company to the new company.
                            "The uncertainty resulted in some misleading media coverage which only added to the confusion and caused issues for service providers.
                            "For the sake of clarity and to give reassurance to fans, the Club will not take any direct debit payments for the forthcoming season.
                            "We are working with our bank, Metro Bank, to ensure those who wanted to pay by instalment are still able to do so. The Club will issue a fuller communication within the next few days to all season ticket holders confirming the ways in which they can pay for their 2012\13 season tickets.
                            "The Club apologises for any inconvenience to supporters but it is of paramount importance that supporters renewing season tickets have absolute clarity on the arrangements in place."
                            Previously, the owners of Rangers newco confirmed that season ticket renewal cash would be deposited and held by Rangers FC plc, which is the soon-to-be-liquidated oldco.
                            They said the money would eventually be transferred to the new business entity that holds the assets of the club, including Ibrox and Murray Park training ground.

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                            • gazz10
                              V.I.P. Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1015

                              #29
                              Originally posted by ray156
                              Rangers cancel direct debit ticket payments 'to give reassurance to fans'

                              The move comes after some supporters claimed they had been unable to cancel banking arrangements made prior to the liquidation of the old club and foundation of Charles Green's newco.
                              Rangers financial director Brian Stockbridge said that payments would have been taken from accounts on July 6, but that the decision had been made to cancel direct debits "for the sake of clarity and to give reassurance to fans".
                              However, he added that the club was working with its bank to ensure that fans who wished to pay for their season tickets in instalments would still be able to do so.
                              In a statement issued on Saturday, Mr Stockbridge said: "Over the last few days it has become apparent that there is confusion regarding direct debit arrangements for season tickets.
                              "This has arisen primarily because new direct debit arrangements had to be put in place following the creation of the new company.
                              "Supporters have given us valuable feedback on this issue saying they are unclear on whether their direct debit instructions were tied to the old company in administration or the new company.
                              "All direct debits would have been paid to the new company from July 6 and all season ticket funds are to be used solely for the benefit of the Club and its supporters.
                              "However, it is clear from feedback from supporters that there remains some concern about the transfer of direct debit instructions from the old company to the new company.
                              "The uncertainty resulted in some misleading media coverage which only added to the confusion and caused issues for service providers.
                              "For the sake of clarity and to give reassurance to fans, the Club will not take any direct debit payments for the forthcoming season.
                              "We are working with our bank, Metro Bank, to ensure those who wanted to pay by instalment are still able to do so. The Club will issue a fuller communication within the next few days to all season ticket holders confirming the ways in which they can pay for their 2012\13 season tickets.
                              "The Club apologises for any inconvenience to supporters but it is of paramount importance that supporters renewing season tickets have absolute clarity on the arrangements in place."
                              Previously, the owners of Rangers newco confirmed that season ticket renewal cash would be deposited and held by Rangers FC plc, which is the soon-to-be-liquidated oldco.
                              They said the money would eventually be transferred to the new business entity that holds the assets of the club, including Ibrox and Murray Park training ground.

                              Rangers Fans still being tracked via Fastpay... one of lads in work the day 96.00 paid to fastpay. he now cancelled direct debit and asking why money been taken from account as he never signed up to fastpay. think he got fair point and should recieve refund, if he never signed up to fastpay he should be entitled to money back...

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                              • ray156
                                DK Veteran
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 669

                                #30
                                Northern Ireland striker Kyle Lafferty has joined Sion on a three-year deal after saying he wished to leave Rangers, the Swiss club have confirmed.
                                "He will be presented at a press conference on Monday, then will join his new team-mates for training," the Swiss club said in a statement.
                                Moments earlier, Norwich City announced they had signed Rangers' Scotland defender, Steven Whittaker

                                Rangers's new owners have vowed to challenge such moves in the courts.

                                Stoke City are in a similar position, although they have yet to formally announce that they have signed Rangers midfielder Jamie Ness
                                Last edited by ray156; 1 July, 2012, 12:30.

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