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  • SIMPLY THE BEST
    DK Veteran
    • Sep 2008
    • 293

    #1

    The broken backbone of the Tartan Army


    The broken backbone of the Tartan Army
    by Scott Ferguson

    First off, it may be worthwhile to mention that this article may not be of interest for every Rangers fan. However, the usually heated debate on Rangers fans supporting (or not) Scotland?s national team is one that generally - at least in my experience - has included Rangers fans from all over the world, and therefore in my humblest of opinions I believe it is relevant to all.

    The Rangers family of course is not limited by the borders of Scotland, and as a result a large portion of you out there simply because of your own nationality have not and will not ever support Scotland?s national side.
    However, in saying that I?m sure that there are some of you out there that are indeed Scotland born and yet regardless have not nor will ever support (for whatever reason) the Scottish National side.

    Whatever percentage of the Rangers support this leaves us this percentage was enough to traditionally hold the majority voice within the Tartan Army.

    So strong was the Rangers supporters backing of Scotland?s national side that traditionally for decades this section of the Rangers fans were known as ?The Backbone of the Tartan Army.?

    As a proud Scotsmen I have always supported the National side ? through the good times and the bad?and of course the really, really bad times (Hello, Mr Vogts).

    I have always been aware that within the Rangers family there are those that completely detest the entire notion of ?The Tartan Army?. In my own experiences, this opinion has generally come from those that are not of Scottish heritage.

    I have personally been involved in many a debate on the subject, and in all honesty I have never heard any fantastic mind altering arguments against the Tartan Army - although the wearing of a kilt and ginger wigs tends to come under scrutiny more often than not.

    This has never bothered me though as everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and it has certainly never prevented other Rangers fans from supporting the national side in massive numbers, as research conducted back in the 1990?s by Dr Joseph Bradley from the University of Stirling confirmed.

    Dr Bradley research showed that even though the amount of Rangers fans within the tartan army had actually ?wained since the 80s? that Rangers fans still held the majority share at 21% of the overall support.

    I?m going to go out on a limb and say that more recently that number has decreased dramatically.

    Throughout the recent traumas at Ibrox the ill feeling towards Scotland?s governing bodies has intensified to levels never before seen.

    This has led to many a Rangers fan declaring that they will never follow or support the Scottish national side ever again. I personally conducted some very unscientific research on the wonderful platform of twitter on the subject just recently. Over 200 Scotland born Rangers fans took part and it showed that 2/3rds of this number would no longer support the national side ? some feel so strongly that some even suggest that they want the club to ban Scottish players from playing for their national side.

    Personally I find this suggestion ridiculous, and thankfully this is a suggestion that I believe will never be taken up by the club. There is a fine line between having your own opinion and trying to enforce it upon others. It would be easy for us as fans especially those of us that have chosen not to support the national team to demand that the Barry McKay?s and Lewis McLeod?s of the world turn their back on their god given right and well-earned opportunity to represent their country. Both these players have been and are currently involved in the Scottish under-19 squad and I would guess that both would jump at the chance of playing for the senior squad if called upon.

    We have no right to demand that this choice be taken away from them.

    After speaking with numerous Rangers fans who have taken the decision to no longer support the national side it is clear to me that the predominant reason given is that there is a view that by supporting Scotland national side that somehow you would also be supporting the games governing bodies.

    In truth, the SPL is almost a complete irrelevance with regards to the Scottish national side. The upcoming Scotland matches versus Serbia and Macedonia will indeed only involve three SPL players. To put this into perspective the English sides Cardiff City and Blackpool will supply the national team with more players than the entire of the SPL.
    This would also mean that only three players for the upcoming matches actually ply their trade under the SFA banner.

    Rangers fans (more than any other football fans) due to the recent tribulations at Ibrox have a great understanding of the differences and indeed the separation of the club and the company.

    This separation I believe is something we should apply to the national squad.

    Simply put the SFA is a company ? it just so happens to also be the governing body of the national side (the club so to speak).

    Ally McCoist recently hinted at this very distinction. Ally (aware of the Rangers fans unrest against the national side) publicly pleaded with the Rangers fans to support the national team:

    ?I?ve got the national team and the SFA down as two separate entities and I hope the fans can manage that too.?

    The idea of even considering turning my back on Scotland because of the likes of Stewart Regan (someone who isn?t even Scottish) seems ridiculous to me.

    If the Rangers support lose their voice within the national set up then as a result we lose the opportunity to force change ? in club football cries of sack the board or dissent shown towards a manager have shown over the years that fans in their numbers do hold power to enforce change.

    Of course the governing bodies are not the only reason why Rangers fans may not want to take their rightful place in the stands of Hampden and watch Scotland play football. With the seemingly united hatred that has been directed at us as a group (more so recently) it certainly makes the prospect of standing shoulder to shoulder with Aberdeen, Dundee United and Hibernian fans a far from attractive one.

    However, how do you think a mass boycott of the national side by Rangers fans would be greeted by these fans?

    Of course the majority would simply rejoice, and we would in turn be giving many people exactly what they want ? this unavoidable result is again something that does not appeal to me.

    The booing of Ian Black on his debut is an example of what happens when Rangers fans lose their voice within the Scottish support. Had our traditional majority been present ? the ?boos? would have been drowned out and Ian Black would have been able to remember his debut for all the right reasons.

    To be honest my own biggest dilemma whilst watching the recent Scotland game versus Australia wasn?t the nagging thought that by doing so I was somehow condoning the SFA and Regan. It was trying to deal with the sick feeling in my stomach watching the likes of McGregor and Naismith.

    I like many a Rangers fan was extremely disappointed in the manner they left our club ? whether this ill feeling is something that will ease with time remains to be seen. However, I guess at least for the moment I will just have to try and deal with it in the same way as I do when in the past I find myself (through gritted teeth) having to support the likes of Scott Brown when he pulls on the Scottish colours.

    When the international jersey is pulled on for 90 minutes all other allegiances should be forgotten. If the commitment to the cause is the same as mine then I will support whoever is put on the park.

    There are other factors to include such as a lack of success, seemingly endless games against minnows such as Estonia and Lithuania etc?but these are issues for all fans ? not just those from the terraces of Ibrox.

    The word tradition is such an important word within football ? and I feel a sense of pride with the knowledge that the great Rangers support have featured so predominantly throughout history with the national side. For whatever reason it certainly saddens me that this tradition is one, at least in the meantime, we stand to lose.

    They say time heals all wounds ? and I certainly hope that on this occasion that old saying is true. As it is clear for the time being at least that ?The Backbone of the Tartan Army? is broken.
  • colin mckenzie
    Top Poster
    • Nov 2008
    • 172

    #2
    ian black wasnt boo'd because he was a rangers player, also ian black has been boo'd by rangers fans when he was playing against rangers as not only did he do jelavic but various players from most teams in the SPL, he is a dirty player with little or no talent and thats why he was boo'd.

    another thing why have no other rangers players been boo'd? all fans dislike black except the club he is playing for at that time, and to be fair most of my rangers supporting pals dont like and didnt want him at rangers (including one who posts on here!)
    Last edited by colin mckenzie; 9 September, 2012, 16:14.

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    • SIMPLY THE BEST
      DK Veteran
      • Sep 2008
      • 293

      #3
      Originally posted by colin mckenzie
      ian black wasnt boo'd because he was a rangers player, also ian black has been boo'd by rangers fans when he was playing against rangers as not only did he do jelavic but various players from most teams in the SPL, he is a dirty player with little or no talent and thats why he was boo'd.

      another thing why have no other rangers players been boo'd? all fans dislike black except the club he is playing for at that time, and to be fair most of my rangers supporting pals dont like and didnt want him at rangers (including one who posts on here!)
      Can't say i see the logic in your answer so you are saying playing for Scotland Scottish fans booed him because he is a dirty player even tho he is pulling the dark blue of Scotland on ? can't recall any other so called dirty Scottish players ever being booed because they were classed as dirty players.

      Also you say why are other Rangers players not being booed tell me how many others are included in the Scotland squad since the got put in Div 3 ? so on that basis your answer is a load of tosh m8

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      • colin mckenzie
        Top Poster
        • Nov 2008
        • 172

        #4
        Originally posted by SIMPLY THE BEST
        Can't say i see the logic in your answer so you are saying playing for Scotland Scottish fans booed him because he is a dirty player even tho he is pulling the dark blue of Scotland on ? can't recall any other so called dirty Scottish players ever being booed because they were classed as dirty players.

        Also you say why are other Rangers players not being booed tell me how many others are included in the Scotland squad since the got put in Div 3 ? so on that basis your answer is a load of tosh m8
        maybe he is the worst scotland player to win a cap? (in my eyes he is up there)
        as for other players i think its safe to say if lee wallace gets a call up he wont be boo'd you can try all you like to jump in chic greens bandwagon that everyone is against rangers they arent they went into liquadation and had to apply to join the SFL now i think its safe to say the SPL then tried to lobby the SFL clubs to accept them into DIV1 which they rightly declined, in terms of other clubs not showing support why dont you look into the last days of Airdrie and see what the support the oldco gave them?

        I will always support a player of any club who represents my country and I personally wouldnt boo them however I can totally understand why black was boo'd and I for one hope it was his first and last cap..

        Lets be honest If celtic signed him you would still hate him im sure you disliked him before he signed for rangers? and now no doubt you will think he deserves a break because he signed for your club

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        • southpaw83
          DK Veteran
          • Sep 2008
          • 360

          #5
          Rangers fans are quick to tell everyone of how appallingly (no laughing at the back) they have supposedly been treated by all and sundry, I think Scotland fans were merely venting their frustration that a journeyman was given a cap in what seems to everyone as a nod to Rangers from Levein and the SFA and yet again they are receiving special treatment.

          Black is a limited player who specialises in cowardly tackles (one of his worst was on Jelavic). He was not deemed fit to play for Scotland whilst at Hearts, after dropping 3 divisions he supposedly is.

          I can understand why some people would boo that.

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          • barrowmanandrew
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            • Nov 2009
            • 3427

            #6
            Originally posted by southpaw83
            Rangers fans are quick to tell everyone of how appallingly (no laughing at the back) they have supposedly been treated by all and sundry, I think Scotland fans were merely venting their frustration that a journeyman was given a cap in what seems to everyone as a nod to Rangers from Levein and the SFA and yet again they are receiving special treatment.

            Black is a limited player who specialises in cowardly tackles (one of his worst was on Jelavic). He was not deemed fit to play for Scotland whilst at Hearts, after dropping 3 divisions he supposedly is.

            I can understand why some people would boo that.
            your saying Levein played Black as a favour to Rangers?

            seriously???

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            • colin mckenzie
              Top Poster
              • Nov 2008
              • 172

              #7
              obviously not but im sure you would agree very strange decision to give him a cap. i still dont understand him saying Wallace is playing at a lower level than he needs to then picks black also while Commons is scoring in the champions league he isnt picked the guy is a tube.

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              • barrowmanandrew
                V.I.P. Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 3427

                #8
                Originally posted by colin mckenzie
                obviously not but im sure you would agree very strange decision to give him a cap. i still dont understand him saying Wallace is playing at a lower level than he needs to then picks black also while Commons is scoring in the champions league he isnt picked the guy is a tube.
                as mentioned in a previous thread,
                Levein makes plenty of strange decisons..
                what rangers has to do with it is beyond me..

                statements like this

                "I think Scotland fans were merely venting their frustration that a journeyman was given a cap in what seems to everyone as a nod to Rangers from Levein and the SFA and yet again they are receiving special treatment."

                show us all that the paranio is still alive and kicking..

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                • SIMPLY THE BEST
                  DK Veteran
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 293

                  #9
                  Originally posted by colin mckenzie
                  maybe he is the worst scotland player to win a cap? (in my eyes he is up there)
                  as for other players i think its safe to say if lee wallace gets a call up he wont be boo'd you can try all you like to jump in chic greens bandwagon that everyone is against rangers they arent they went into liquadation and had to apply to join the SFL now i think its safe to say the SPL then tried to lobby the SFL clubs to accept them into DIV1 which they rightly declined, in terms of other clubs not showing support why dont you look into the last days of Airdrie and see what the support the oldco gave them?

                  I will always support a player of any club who represents my country and I personally wouldnt boo them however I can totally understand why black was boo'd and I for one hope it was his first and last cap..

                  Lets be honest If celtic signed him you would still hate him im sure you disliked him before he signed for rangers? and now no doubt you will think he deserves a break because he signed for your club

                  You seem to keep saying "you" meaning me i assume ? but the actual thread has the persons name who wrote it so it's his view on the tartan army backbone not necessarily mine m8

                  Anyone that boo's a player coming on to play for his national team is imho not a patriot but a tool for bringing what happens at club level into the national arena.

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                  • southpaw83
                    DK Veteran
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 360

                    #10
                    Originally posted by barrowmanandrew
                    your saying Levein played Black as a favour to Rangers?

                    seriously???
                    Not as a favour, but I believe he selected him because he played for Rangers.

                    What other reason could there be? He was nowhere near the squad and there was a furore over selecting Rangers players just before it.

                    Do you seriously think he was selected on merit and it was just a coincidence he was called up after his transfer?

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                    • southpaw83
                      DK Veteran
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 360

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SIMPLY THE BEST
                      You seem to keep saying "you" meaning me i assume ? but the actual thread has the persons name who wrote it so it's his view on the tartan army backbone not necessarily mine m8

                      Anyone that boo's a player coming on to play for his national team is imho not a patriot but a tool for bringing what happens at club level into the national arena.
                      I think you are being a bit precious about booing mate. Your team do it, my team do it. It happens.

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                      • colin mckenzie
                        Top Poster
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 172

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SIMPLY THE BEST
                        You seem to keep saying "you" meaning me i assume ? but the actual thread has the persons name who wrote it so it's his view on the tartan army backbone not necessarily mine m8

                        Anyone that boo's a player coming on to play for his national team is imho not a patriot but a tool for bringing what happens at club level into the national arena.
                        so .. if your team say dont win a game at ibrox next year are you telling me the fans wont boo at full time? meaning they are not true fans then using your logic?

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                        • colin mckenzie
                          Top Poster
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 172

                          #13
                          Originally posted by barrowmanandrew
                          as mentioned in a previous thread,
                          Levein makes plenty of strange decisons..
                          what rangers has to do with it is beyond me..

                          statements like this

                          "I think Scotland fans were merely venting their frustration that a journeyman was given a cap in what seems to everyone as a nod to Rangers from Levein and the SFA and yet again they are receiving special treatment."

                          show us all that the paranio is still alive and kicking..
                          not only did your team inherit the biscuit tin they also inherited the paranoid tag as well im afraid :-)

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                          • SIMPLY THE BEST
                            DK Veteran
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 293

                            #14
                            Originally posted by southpaw83
                            I think you are being a bit precious about booing mate. Your team do it, my team do it. It happens.
                            This a Scotland team m8 i have never ever booed a player playing for Scotland regardless of who he plays for.

                            Not trying to sound smart here but whats the "your team do it and my team do it" got to do with the Scotland team where the players are all playing for Scotland ? therefore all the Scottish fans should get behind the players and team.

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                            • southpaw83
                              DK Veteran
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 360

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SIMPLY THE BEST
                              This a Scotland team m8 i have never ever booed a player playing for Scotland regardless of who he plays for.

                              Not trying to sound smart here but whats the "your team do it and my team do it" got to do with the Scotland team where the players are all playing for Scotland ? therefore all the Scottish fans should get behind the players and team.
                              If fans are unhappy with what they see on the pitch, they boo it. That's all.

                              . If someone pulls on the Rangers top, why would it be ok to boo them, but not Scotland?

                              I don't see the distinction

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