Has The FA Cup Final Lost Its Shine?

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  • gmb45

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    Has The FA Cup Final Lost Its Shine?

    Paul Brennan, Sky News reporter
    The FA Cup Final kicks off at Wembley this afternoon, with Chelsea facing Everton for the famous trophy

    But with the television audience dwindling rapidly in recent years, has this once-great occasion lost its national appeal?

    When I was growing up, the streets would be deserted during the game on Cup Final day.

    The only noise would be the cheers from the open windows of the corner pub where the game was being televised, or the sound of families and friends gathered in their living rooms to watch the TV.

    For 15 minutes at half-time, I would join the rest of the neighbourhood kids in the street, kicking a ball around and replaying the crucial moments from the first half before racing back inside when the second half began.

    Today's referee, Howard Webb, was also football-mad as a boy. I spoke to him on the eve of today's match.

    "I remember watching the Tottenham against Manchester City final in 1981," says the Rotherham fan.

    "And I just remember a really good game of football. And straight after the game I went out and played on the local field on my own.

    "But as I walked onto the field I imagined I was going to be captaining one of the teams out into the FA Cup Final."

    That was the thing: it didn't matter whether your team was actually playing - everyone watched the game simply because it was the FA Cup Final.

    But it seems those days are over.

    According to official Broadcasters' Audience Research Board (BARB) viewing figures, in 1997, more than 11 million people tuned in to see Chelsea beat Middlesbrough at Wembley.

    But by the time Arsenal met Chelsea in 2002 that had nearly halved, to just 6.3 million viewers.

    And just 5.6 million were interested enough to sit through last year's final between Portsmouth and Cardiff.

    Why is that? The FA Cup still has the romance of the lower-league teams beating Premier League opposition.

    The history of the cup is second to none.

    Today's grandparents may still vividly recall the 1953 "Matthews Final".

    In 1923, newsreel footage of the extraordinary pitch invasion means that final will always be known as the "White Horse Final".

    More modern classics include the 2006 epic between Liverpool and West Ham, perhaps the best FA Cup Final ever.

    Some say the Cup was tarnished by holders Manchester United's non-appearance in 2000, when they competed in the FIFA Club World Championship instead.

    Others say that, for all the romance of the minnows getting through, last year's Portsmouth-Cardiff final was evidence that two relative minnows in one final makes for a lame affair.

    And the glitz and glamour of the Champions League means the FA Cup can be shown up as the domestic cup competition that it is.

    Important if you're competing for it, but sadly irrelevant if you're not.
  • aftermath
    V.I.P. Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 4345

    #2
    well i think everyone was built up to Wednesdays champions league final , and many people had their lights knocked in.

    IMO on paper it sounds like the FA cup final could be a boring 0-0, after all the 2 times they met this season in the league have been 0-0 and chelsea can bore the life out of any match.

    I just hope Everton can win this one.

    I doubt i will be watching it....

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    • Bulld0g
      V.I.P. Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 7158

      #3
      Sadly i have to agree. I think Man utd are responsible for the demise of the fa cup. They treated it with contempt by dropping out to go and play some glorified charity shield game in Brazil.
      They put their own commercial needs before the most famous trophy in the world. They were holders at the time IIRC. Then they started fielding reserves in the fa cup and treating it the same way as the league cup. Sadly Arsenal then Liverpool followed suit and that was the end of the legendary fa cup as we know it.
      The fa must shoulder blame too.It used to be every footballers dream to play at wembley in the fa cup final. Sadly these muppets now play the semi final there , play offs and any other money making scheme they can raise. Which again shows the game is a busines now and not a sport.
      I wish we coulld have those great days back but they're gone forever.

      THE TRUTH
      The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

      Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
      The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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      • opsmonkey
        V.I.P. Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 5379

        #4
        more people watched todays game than on wed night accross the world..

        also when its two top draw teams more people watch.. who really is interested in Portsmouth v Cardiff, outside of those two cities..?

        484 million people watched the Chelsea v Man Utd FA Cup Final..

        If its between two of the top 4 it will be watched.. why..? you will get a good game.. otherwise they are generally a dire affair..

        i'd take the Champions League over the FA Cup.. why...? its more magical.. the FA Cup has lost its appeal because it means nothing really, the League and European glory are more important.. Ask any Chelsea fan even today.. they'd take a league title or CL final win over the old cup
        Last edited by opsmonkey; 30 May, 2009, 18:21.

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        • roni
          Newbie
          • May 2009
          • 1

          #5
          no

          no no no no no

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          • opsmonkey
            V.I.P. Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 5379

            #6
            Originally posted by roni
            no no no no no
            nice way to make up your post counts.. dont bother next time

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            • alker ranger
              DK Veteran
              • Dec 2008
              • 361

              #7
              ops, in a way your right, the champions league starts in september and last the whole season, fa cup starts january for the top clubs, and to get to the final you win 6 games, theres also more money in europe and fa cup is de- valued due to playing semis at wembley, but thats my opinion.

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              • opsmonkey
                V.I.P. Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 5379

                #8
                Originally posted by alker ranger
                ops, in a way your right, the champions league starts in september and last the whole season, fa cup starts january for the top clubs, and to get to the final you win 6 games, theres also more money in europe and fa cup is de- valued due to playing semis at wembley, but thats my opinion.
                Whats the status of your cup..?? Is it just as good to win the Scottish Cup Final as its always been...?? or does entry into the new Europa League mean more than the cup itself..?? Arent your semi's played at Hamden too..??

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                • parnaby
                  Newbie
                  • May 2009
                  • 4

                  #9
                  Football in general is loosing its shine to me. Maybe its because I'm a boro fan, but I just dont feel the same way as I used to. Theres to much money in the game, overpaid sissy's running about not putting an effort in. Sky make me sick the way they build up these 'super sunday' type games.

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                  • maca
                    Mr. DK DJ
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 6310

                    #10
                    Originally posted by parnaby
                    Football in general is loosing its shine to me. Maybe its because I'm a boro fan, but I just dont feel the same way as I used to. Theres to much money in the game, overpaid sissy's running about not putting an effort in. Sky make me sick the way they build up these 'super sunday' type games.
                    if i was a boro fan id have hanged my self by now m8

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                    • mtv1
                      The Stig PT
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 4413

                      #11
                      so maca what if you were a leeds fan


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                      • maca
                        Mr. DK DJ
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 6310

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mtv1
                        so maca what if you were a leeds fan
                        m8 as ive said before i leeds utd and hope they get back to the prem soon m8 big club with a great fan base cmon leeds

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                        • opsmonkey
                          V.I.P. Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 5379

                          #13
                          Originally posted by parnaby
                          Football in general is loosing its shine to me. Maybe its because I'm a boro fan, but I just dont feel the same way as I used to. Theres to much money in the game, overpaid sissy's running about not putting an effort in. Sky make me sick the way they build up these 'super sunday' type games.
                          sour grapes their lad.. ITV do a wonderful sunday morning montage.. you can see all your big games.. Blackpool, Peterborough...

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                          • Ballistic
                            Top Poster +
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 243

                            #14
                            yeah agree it has lost its shine a bit, think they should kick the coca cola cup in to touch and just have the FA CUP.

                            Im sure there may be other ways to make it more magical again...bigger incentives to win it etc.

                            B
                            "Racing is life... everything before and after is just waiting." Steve McQueen as Michael Delaney in 'Le Mans'sigpic

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                            • opsmonkey
                              V.I.P. Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 5379

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ballistic
                              yeah agree it has lost its shine a bit, think they should kick the coca cola cup in to touch and just have the FA CUP.

                              Im sure there may be other ways to make it more magical again...bigger incentives to win it etc.

                              B
                              .. your showing your age there mate.. its not been the coca cola cup for 11 years...!

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