Eduardo

[ghunter]

Hadn't seen that dive, it was even give a foul against him(for 3 of the incidents I watched) never mind a red card.
Anyway, had a great laugh at the champions league final where he ruined Man Utds chances by trying to prove he was better than Messi and all he did was show he isn't even second best to him.
(PS Man Utd fans I was happy at him making an ars* of himself not Man Utd getting beat.)

As for eduardo, heres hoping he has another leg break very soon. His 'professionalism' is something British footy can easily do without. Glad but very suprised EUFA did something about it. Moind you thats more than the Ex-pro commentators did; saying things like "well he gave the ref a decision to make", "he did the professional thing" , " its part of the modern game etc. Not one slammed him for what he did....wonder why....

[soviet]

I put my hands up and admit that eduardo dive was not nice to see, and being an Arsenal fan we've had a few penalties against ourselves. Rooney's leap over Sol Campbell to end the Invincibles run at Old Trafford and Dirk Kuyt in the Champions League quarter-final spring to mind - both of them affected us far more than Eduardo's tumble did Celtic last night. Yet I didn't hear much in the way of criticism for those players.

If we had won the game 1-0 on tha penalty then I would understand what the 'pundits' have said but when we scored 5 goals and Celtic had 2 shots on target over the 2 legs and Arsenal were more than good value for the win.

And mate, I do'nt wish no harm to any human being but wishing a leg break is something I heavily condone. I very much doubt British Football needs something like this

[skegsagypsy]

So because it happened against your team its ok, sorry but I don't agree with you, Eduardo is a cheat and should be treated as such, all cheats should be punnished, as a matter of fact they should be taken out of sport altogether.

There is no doubt Arsenal were and are the better team, but to say the penalty didn't affect the result is a nonsense ! Celtic needed to score first to give them a chance in the tie, after the dive and pen Celtic knew the tie was over, Eduardo is a disgrace as is Wenger in trying to defend the cheatin little ~~~~er, I don't wish to see him injured and believe anyone who does is very much wrong.

your picture above have no bearing on Eduardos DIVE only you know why you have added them here, they are totally meaningless in this thread.

Hopefully UEFA will take action against the cheating Eduardo and some sort of justice can be done, I also feel there should be some form of punishment against Wenger, as his attempt at justifying a cheat also brings the game into disrepute, this I feel should apply to all those who are found guilty of similair actions.
Disgraceful on both thier parts.

[McMav]

Thing is skegs if we ban all divers your team would lose a few players too. Its rife throughout the game unfortunately. If they put in a rule that can give a retrospective red if the ref misses it and use that ALL the time then the divers would stop but it would have to happen worldwide not just in the uk.

[skegsagypsy]

The thing is McMav, I would be quite happy to see cheats in my team ~~~~ed out of the game, I consitently condmened Petrovs blatant diving when he was at Celtic, I don't prevaricate on the issue, I hate cheats in sport of whatever ilk they come, there is no place for it.

[McMav]

Yeah need to be enforced worldwide though imo. No point us doing it then going into a european competition and its not enforced there. Hopefully one day.

[ISHYWASIM]

eduardo is innocent

[ticticboom]

eduardo is innocent

is he now please explain Arsene Wenger ??

[skegsagypsy]

eduardo is innocent

As innocent as Garry Glitter

[mickyboy]

is he now please explain Arsene Wenger ??

As innocent as Garry Glitter

mon the hoops

[caveman_nige]

As innocent as Garry Glitter

i could not have put it better myself..

[leotheloin]

why not bring in the TV REF like the rugby do how long does it take to take a penalty 1min 2min maybe even longer. as you see in rugby if the ref is not sure if it is a try he justs asks the TV REF to clarify it sometimes it takes less then 2mins for him to be told if it is a try or not.how long was it before arsenal took the penalty near on 4mins.arsene wenger said any player that dives and looks for a penalty should be banned when rooney did dive in the box and ended there long unbeaten home record its a true saying the past does haunt u

[ghunter]

Soviet-are those pics meant to make me sympathetic?! No chance.
OK maybe I was a bit over the top but it is really frustrating when cheats win. He is a cheat and he did win.
As for your ridiculous arguement of winning 5 1, if Celtic had scored first then you wouldn't have won 5 1. As has been said, and us Tims know our football, Arsenal were deserved winners and I personally would watch Arsenal before almost any other team. They play fabulous football but players like Eduardo just detract from all they do(the penalty wasn't his only dive, the dive on the halfway line when caldwell stood close to him was just as bad). And yes I know he isn't the only one - Ronaldo for instance is a disgrace to world football - but that doesn't make it right that he does it.
The clamp down on cheats has to start somewhere and it was a very 'public' dive, seen by 100s of millions of people. What do you think neutrals would think of Arsenal and their tactics after seeing that? (Dont say yopu dont care what others think - it makes you a Millwall fan).
Arsenal are, well I would like to believe, much better than that and any Arsenal fan defending him really should give themselves a shake.

As for Arsene, well........ he has to defend his players but he is talking boll*cks. There is no excusing Eduardo. If we start accepting that, what is next? Watch any number of European games for 5 minutes, whistle going constantly, players falling over because someone invaded their personal space, games disjointed and boring. The premeirship is the home of the best football in the world and it should stay that way. There are a number of other cheats but maybe this incident may make them think twice before diving.

As for the TV 'ref' idea , it might work, in this incident it would have taken a couple of seconds for him to get booked but they tried this idea with American football a few years ago and it didn't help. There is also the problem that the ref would be under even more pressure and would feel undermined if a number of his decisions were over-turned, making him very indecisive, which would lead to a loss of control of the players and the game. It would have to be very carefully thought out and applied. It would need ex-players and not paper shufflers to make the decisions (only someone who doesn't play football could come up with that offside rule!).

[soviet]

I included the pictures because English Football does not need this type of savage play. Wengers pointis that people have dived before, Ashley Young dived to get Villa a penalty in the Europa cup.

Not a word has been said about it, not by UEFA, certainly not in the media. So already this indicates that consistency is going to be unlikely. If the offence is the same the punishment should be the same but it's not. And why not? Wenger has the answer:

This case has been ruled by the media and emotionally by Scotland, by the Scottish FA and by Scottish people working at Uefa.

Damn right. And to me that's the crux of the matter. It was a high profile game, it was never a contest, and the 'Battle of Britain' they all wanted turned out to be a damp squib. How much copy do you get out of Arsenal dominating Celtic? Not much. How much do you get out of labeling a player a cheat, as if he were the worst in the world? Loads.

[aftermath]

the thing that annoys me is, why do the best players need to dive.

look at eduardo, ronaldo, drogba, gerrard brilliant players but still dive , ive noticed Drogma dont dive as much these days but he has become a much better footballer, and the same should go to the rest of them.