Manchester United Thread

[andy1967]

http://www.stretfordendarising.com/2013/12/05/5-things-we-learned-manchester-united-0-1-everton/

Great read, and this part sticks out most for me

If you have opinions, that?s fine, and there are obviously numerous fans who didn?t want Moyes in the first place, but your vocal opposition to him now is not helping.
United are the biggest club in the country. We?re a class above the rest. We?re not Manchester City and Chelsea who have hired and fired managers with such regularity in recent years that they?re dangerously close to being a real life representation of that in play manager sackings advert from Paddy Power.
We don?t boo our team when they don?t perform and we don?t sack a manger four months into the season ? especially one who?s brave enough to step into the shoes of the club?s most successful manager of all time.
Moyes is just starting his project, beginning to mould his own squad and imprint himself on the club. There?s going to be ups and downs.
Our success of the last two decades has turned us fans into the pampered primadonas that the beautiful game is littered with today.
Shame on you if you don?t want to support the team in good times and bad.

[andy1967]

I don't know what the answer is to this. Another shocking performance. We're in a serious rut here. And every team we come up against in the league knows it. Moyes literally needs to kick the bollix out of a few of those players!

[aftermath]

the difference is . last season with the same players we won the league easy, this season we got Moyes and fellaine, and new back room staff.

SACK MOYES before we end up like Liverpool , and leave the trophy`s to Chelsea and City

[aftermath]

the difference is . last season with the same players we won the league easy, this season we got Moyes and fellaine, and new back room staff.

SACK MOYES before we end up like Liverpool , and leave the trophy`s to Chelsea and City

[thered]

If you look at the big picture its not all doom and gloom yet. A few wins on the bounce and we are back in it, it was only a few games ago we beat Arsenal and everyone was saying we are back in it. Its a 38 game season there is plenty of games left

Look at the league the only teams who are benefitting are the teams who have not changed manager, Arsenal, liverpool even saints, ourselves, Chelsea and City are all struggling and all changed manager i dont think its a coincidence

I also think Moyes is out of his depth, I think his main problem is the players. When he talks do they respect him? what has he won? we know better than him, we are already winners, and they may have a point, but i think he can turn it around, he needs to earn the respect though and thats by winning so its catch 22

IMO we wouldnt have lost either of the last 2 if Carrick was playing, the midfield is woeful and it is leaving us struggling in games, the passing is loose and if teams harass us we struggle and lose the ball.

Midfield needs addressing asap but we are not a bad team over night 2 defeats in a row dont make a season as dont to wins, form will improve and we will kick on.

[southpaw]

If you look at the big picture its not all doom and gloom yet. A few wins on the bounce and we are back in it, it was only a few games ago we beat Arsenal and everyone was saying we are back in it. Its a 38 game season there is plenty of games left

Look at the league the only teams who are benefitting are the teams who have not changed manager, Arsenal, liverpool even saints, ourselves, Chelsea and City are all struggling and all changed manager i dont think its a coincidence

I also think Moyes is out of his depth, I think his main problem is the players. When he talks do they respect him? what has he won? we know better than him, we are already winners, and they may have a point, but i think he can turn it around, he needs to earn the respect though and thats by winning so its catch 22

IMO we wouldnt have lost either of the last 2 if Carrick was playing, the midfield is woeful and it is leaving us struggling in games, the passing is loose and if teams harass us we struggle and lose the ball.

Midfield needs addressing asap but we are not a bad team over night 2 defeats in a row dont make a season as dont to wins, form will improve and we will kick on.

tbh mate, you don't look like you could go on a run, more teams will have belief now when facing you and your team seems to have lost its own belief, to be fair to moyes I think he took over at a bad time and Saf stitched him a bit with an aging midfield and pretty average squad,

[leotheloin]

If you look at the big picture its not all doom and gloom yet. A few wins on the bounce and we are back in it, it was only a few games ago we beat Arsenal and everyone was saying we are back in it. Its a 38 game season there is plenty of games left

Look at the league the only teams who are benefitting are the teams who have not changed manager, Arsenal, liverpool even saints, ourselves, Chelsea and City are all struggling and all changed manager i dont think its a coincidence

I also think Moyes is out of his depth, I think his main problem is the players. When he talks do they respect him? what has he won? we know better than him, we are already winners, and they may have a point, but i think he can turn it around, he needs to earn the respect though and thats by winning so its catch 22

IMO we wouldnt have lost either of the last 2 if Carrick was playing, the midfield is woeful and it is leaving us struggling in games, the passing is loose and if teams harass us we struggle and lose the ball.

Midfield needs addressing asap but we are not a bad team over night 2 defeats in a row dont make a season as dont to wins, form will improve and we will kick on.

We are average at the moment and every team we play knows that.. the good thing is we are not getting hammered so that gives us hope. You say if carrick was playing we may not have lost the last 2 games imo the guy doesn't do it for me he is a left right side passer and when he dose play it upfront it's waste of a ball. Why doesn't he play rooney in mf we all know he's a great passer of a ball and will chase the game for the full ninthy minutes. BTW why didn't fergi invest in mf when scholes retired first time

[thered]

tbh mate, you don't look like you could go on a run, more teams will have belief now when facing you and your team seems to have lost its own belief, to be fair to moyes I think he took over at a bad time and Saf stitched him a bit with an aging midfield and pretty average squad,

I agree with some of that tbh, we have lost the fear factor a lot of teams come to OT just to defend and nick a goal now they think they can match us and win and to be fair they can.

What im saying is though is in context as we had a run 2 defeats some want Moyes out but if the next matches are 4 or 5 wins on the spin it all gets forgot about.

Not sure Moyes has been a bit stiched up though with an ageing squad, yes we need a midfielder but we have plenty of youth, and it is same squad that pissed last years league. I dont think anyone would be saying much if we had won our last 2 games

Btw unlucky v arsenal you played well, i am a closet blue

@ leo

Maybe he tried, maybe Pogba was earmarked for a slot but how do you replace Scholes?? BTW Carrick was our best player last season and Rooneys been tried in midfield, he is not good enough and by his own admission doesn't want to play there, One of the reasons he wanted to leave apparantly

Its ok saying sign a player, they have to fit.

[andy1967]

1 nill to the Champions. Top of the group. Unbeaten too, 14 points, 9GD unbelievable.

Credit to D Moyes, his first season in the UCL and he's done very well.

[thered]

To be fair it wasn't a difficult group but you can only beat whats in front of you and despite playing very poor tonight we did improve and probably just edged it.

Focus on league now and historically this is the time of year with europe finished for a few months we make up a bit of ground, whether we can make enough up im not sure but a few wins on the bounce will certainly have us back in the mix

Anyone watch Keane V Viera??

Quite apparant that Keane had a bit of an agenda, but it wasnt a bad watch, interviewer made him a little uncomfortable at time when he lied through his teeth but to be fair to Keane he made a few valid points and wasnt as much of a dick as he has been lately

I think Keane is still clearly unhappy about his exit, but surely as an ex pro and a manager he must realise he wasnt the player he was, and that maybe the time was right. Can you imagine him as a squad player?? or being rotated?? Its football unfortunately and there comes a time when everybody gets worse. Keane didnt think it was time but replacing him with Michael Carrick and 3 league titles on the spin and a champions league win and another final the year after nearly 2 years unbeaten in Europe proves the manager got it spot on, despite what Keane thinks

Dont taint your legacy with bitterness Royston

[mztskopje]

Fergie’s book only tells half the story about Roy Keane.Sir Alex Ferguson did not hold back in his autobiography when it came to Roy Keane, who was probably Fergie's top lieutenant during his tenure at Manchester United.

[HibbyDave]

Fergie’s book only tells half the story about Roy Keane.Sir Alex Ferguson did not hold back in his autobiography when it came to Roy Keane, who was probably Fergie's top lieutenant during his tenure at Manchester United.

Eh!.....

[mztskopje]

Roy Keane was the part of more than 10 year success of carrer of SAF

[thered]

Roy Keane was the part of more than 10 year success of carrer of SAF

On that note surely Alex Ferguson was a major part of Roy Keanes success as a player


Keane was an outstanding servant to man utd and will never be forgotten but the constant digs bad mouthing is doing little for his reputation

[leotheloin]

To be fair it wasn't a difficult group but you can only beat whats in front of you and despite playing very poor tonight we did improve and probably just edged it.

Focus on league now and historically this is the time of year with europe finished for a few months we make up a bit of ground, whether we can make enough up im not sure but a few wins on the bounce will certainly have us back in the mix

Anyone watch Keane V Viera??

Quite apparant that Keane had a bit of an agenda, but it wasnt a bad watch, interviewer made him a little uncomfortable at time when he lied through his teeth but to be fair to Keane he made a few valid points and wasnt as much of a dick as he has been lately

I think Keane is still clearly unhappy about his exit, but surely as an ex pro and a manager he must realise he wasnt the player he was, and that maybe the time was right. Can you imagine him as a squad player?? or being rotated?? Its football unfortunately and there comes a time when everybody gets worse. Keane didnt think it was time but replacing him with Michael Carrick and 3 league titles on the spin and a champions league win and another final the year after nearly 2 years unbeaten in Europe proves the manager got it spot on, despite what Keane thinks

Dont taint your legacy with bitterness Royston

What was keane lying about in the interview.