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  • chew_51
    Newbie
    • Dec 2008
    • 1

    #16
    roy keane

    is class and will be back at man u soon

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    • thered
      V.I.P. Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 4915

      #17
      Originally posted by A_B_L
      Think Big Sam would do the biz for the Black Cats, but how would they feel having an ex Mag in charge?
      i think big sam was pushed far too quick at newcastle i think he would do a good job and a good m8 of mine is a mackem and he hates sam allardyce so it would be a good choice for me

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      • BenFTW
        Newbie
        • Dec 2008
        • 3

        #18
        No one knows whats happened beind closed doors so it could have been soemthign that happened, other than that sad to see him leave.

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        • BigLid
          Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 51

          #19
          Some of Roy Keanes signing were awful. Think along the lines of David Healy.

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          • truckerbhoy
            Newbie
            • Dec 2008
            • 4

            #20
            another keegan in the making?
            running out the door as soon as it get rough

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            • bugaloo41
              V.I.P. Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 1598

              #21
              found this one a strange one. keane done a brilliant job in the championship and reasonable in the premiership. interesting to see if he returns to management.

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              • Walkinmyshadow
                DK Veteran
                • Nov 2008
                • 712

                #22
                Originally posted by thered
                his first season they said he was a miracle worker taking sunderland from the bottom of the championship to the premiere

                then he packs in cos he's on a bad run i thought more of roy keane than that roy keane the player was a battler roy keane the manager seems like a bottler

                Calling him a bottler is a bit harsh, I think he took Sunderland as far as he could, when he played for Utd he could control the game almost as he wished, but as a manager he was powerless once the team were on the pitch, he looked like a man with the weight of the world on his shoulders and never looked even remotely happy...i think he needs to get out of football for a few years and chill a little..
                As a Man Utd supporter he'll always be a legend to me, no matter what "catty" comments he might say

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                • chunder
                  Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 91

                  #23
                  Keane

                  Sorry folks, but I think Keane has some real issues. This is not the first time he has bottled. In reality, he has never stuck to a task when the going got tough. He walked away from his team mates in Taipan, he let his mouth get ahead of him whnen he slagged off his Man U team mates and now he has proven himself once again to be incapable of being a team player. He singularly failed to develop any sort of rapport with his players. No manager worth his salt works in one gear as Keane has consistently done.

                  He lost the dressing room, pure and simple. All he ever appears to have inherited from Ferguson is the hair dryer approach. But even Sir Alex of Fergie's biggest detractors would acknowledge that he is more than a one-trick pony. He has shown himself capable of dealing with egos such as Ronaldo (not to mention Cantona), proved he can deal with wayward temperaments such as Rooney. However, he also shows consistently that no-one is bigger than the team - that is why Keane was shown the door in the end.

                  The sad\reality is that, outside of his dog, Keane does not have appear to have any confidantes, no-one with whom he can talk about the deeper issues or who is prepared to tell him when he is wrong, no-one he appears to want to use as a sounding board. I do not know of one successful leader in any field who shows the same insular traits as Keane.

                  Frankly, his attitudes and actions do not suggest to me that he is capable of being a top-flight manager. He would probably be better suited to a role as a singleton, specialist operator in a role where he does not need to interact with people.
                  Last edited by chunder; 9 December, 2008, 16:00.

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                  • gingerninja
                    Top Poster
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 168

                    #24
                    after seeing sunderlands last performance under keane and his expression on the touchline i knew he would go. In my view he left as Quinn would have done everything in his power to keep him there.
                    I agree with previous poster to an extent but i think keane problem is communication and that he really finds it difficult to communicate and furthermore he has the irish temperament of losing his cool and a bad temper. This can be unpredictable and most of the players keane bought also have a unpredictable temperament and this did not work out.

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                    • mackem girl
                      Newbie
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 3

                      #25
                      Originally posted by gingerninja
                      after seeing sunderlands last performance under keane and his expression on the touchline i knew he would go. In my view he left as Quinn would have done everything in his power to keep him there.
                      I agree with previous poster to an extent but i think keane problem is communication and that he really finds it difficult to communicate and furthermore he has the irish temperament of losing his cool and a bad temper. This can be unpredictable and most of the players keane bought also have a unpredictable temperament and this did not work out.
                      totaly agree quinn would never have sacked him he lost the dressing room and this was obivous at the bolton game i think just about every sunderland fan at that match new he was going to walk

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                      • thered
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 4915

                        #26
                        Originally posted by chunder
                        Sorry folks, but I think Keane has some real issues. This is not the first time he has bottled. In reality, he has never stuck to a task when the going got tough. He walked away from his team mates in Taipan, he let his mouth get ahead of him whnen he slagged off his Man U team mates and now he has proven himself once again to be incapable of being a team player. He singularly failed to develop any sort of rapport with his players. No manager worth his salt works in one gear as Keane has consistently done.

                        He lost the dressing room, pure and simple. All he ever appears to have inherited from Ferguson is the hair dryer approach. But even Sir Alex of Fergie's biggest detractors would acknowledge that he is more than a one-trick pony. He has shown himself capable of dealing with egos such as Ronaldo (not to mention Cantona), proved he can deal with wayward temperaments such as Rooney. However, he also shows consistently that no-one is bigger than the team - that is why Keane was shown the door in the end.

                        The sad\reality is that, outside of his dog, Keane does not have appear to have any confidantes, no-one with whom he can talk about the deeper issues or who is prepared to tell him when he is wrong, no-one he appears to want to use as a sounding board. I do not know of one successful leader in any field who shows the same insular traits as Keane.

                        Frankly, his attitudes and actions do not suggest to me that he is capable of being a top-flight manager. He would probably be better suited to a role as a singleton, specialist operator in a role where he does not need to interact with people.
                        good post m8 i agree

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                        • topdog
                          Newbie
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 3

                          #27
                          me to m8

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                          • ibnbatuta
                            Newbie
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 12

                            #28
                            there is only one alex furguson!!! keane has no idea how to build a team!

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                            • shank
                              Junior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 22

                              #29
                              Originally posted by chunder
                              Sorry folks, but I think Keane has some real issues. This is not the first time he has bottled. In reality, he has never stuck to a task when the going got tough. He walked away from his team mates in Taipan, he let his mouth get ahead of him whnen he slagged off his Man U team mates and now he has proven himself once again to be incapable of being a team player. He singularly failed to develop any sort of rapport with his players. No manager worth his salt works in one gear as Keane has consistently done.

                              He lost the dressing room, pure and simple. All he ever appears to have inherited from Ferguson is the hair dryer approach. But even Sir Alex of Fergie's biggest detractors would acknowledge that he is more than a one-trick pony. He has shown himself capable of dealing with egos such as Ronaldo (not to mention Cantona), proved he can deal with wayward temperaments such as Rooney. However, he also shows consistently that no-one is bigger than the team - that is why Keane was shown the door in the end.

                              The sad\reality is that, outside of his dog, Keane does not have appear to have any confidantes, no-one with whom he can talk about the deeper issues or who is prepared to tell him when he is wrong, no-one he appears to want to use as a sounding board. I do not know of one successful leader in any field who shows the same insular traits as Keane.

                              Frankly, his attitudes and actions do not suggest to me that he is capable of being a top-flight manager. He would probably be better suited to a role as a singleton, specialist operator in a role where he does not need to interact with people.
                              WOW!

                              I only joined this forum five minutes ago, and I've just read this which is one of the best posts I've ever read on any sports forum.

                              Keane's situation at Sunderland is similar to what happened to Billy Davies at Derby, if he hadn't got his team promoted in his first season, he'd still be in the job.

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