or perhaps the americans are feeding on our open minds, make some ships saucer shaped of coarse, and go for world domination, look up fema camps and plastic coffins now that will screw your minds 
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Seen those m8, and yes thats some weird shit goin on there.Comment
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I consider myself to be quite open minded on these subjects, love to see some of these links to the truth."What we've got here is failure to communicate."Comment
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Ok heres a good one for you. THE DISCLOSURE PROJECT.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk]YouTube - U.F.O DISCLOSURE PROJECT -FULL VERSION[/ame]Comment
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Just watched both videos, tbh I saw no more "evidence" than I have before. I have no problems with "UFOs" in fact I would go as far as to say they are very real. My problem lies with the "extra terrestrial" elements. Say i took every single person who testified at face value. What evidence has been presented that these craft are from other planets, from a species other than our own.
Like I have stated i'm quite open minded so feel free to correct me on anything i've missed. One quote stated seeing a colony on the back of the moon, with modern technology this should not be hard to confirm.
Almost all sightings are based around american flight testing facilities, suppose this could be relevant.
If those "ETs" are able to perfect technology capable of transversing galaxies, how do they manage to crash here?
If they are capable of deactivating our most advanced weapons systems why don't they disable them all?
If this technology is available why doesn't design follow?
Have loads more questions and am genuinely interested the problem I have is almost all the "evidence" I see are human accounts of perceived events.
Fascinating subject all the same when you consider the unexplained hieroglyphs, mass sightings and other curious events. Seriously doubt we are alone in the Universe just not sure if we have ever encountered species from anywhere else. Hope they are there for those times when us humans make silly choices."What we've got here is failure to communicate."Comment
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Lets face the facts here. Any so called REAL evidence, i.e an actual craft, parts of a craft, alien bodies...alive or dead e.c.t. You will never see, unless you are privvy to the " NEED TO KNOW " mob. It is very well documented, that when anyone finds anything like this, the powers that be will take control of it,...and you. They are responsible for the ridicule people get when they so much as mention a ufo. The are also responsible for many of the conspiracy theories, they love nothing more. There is so much evidence availiable,.... like untold amounts of documentation, photo's, videos, and first hand eye witnesses. All of which can be, and many have been faked, BUT THERE ARE SOME VERY REAL ONES IN THERE. The problem we have is to sort out which are fakes, and which are real. Let me ask you all a question. If you awoke to find a genuine ufo, and 2 aliens in yer back garden, and you took loads of photo's and video evidence, and then proceeded to post this info on the net [ you tube ? ] nearly all who comment on yer info would say it's a fake. Now you know it's real, cause you've seen it, touched it and logged it. You make a bit of fuss defending your evidence, only to be ridiculed, how would you feel ? Worst case scenario.... the men in black turn up, confiscate all yer evidence, threaten your life, your families lives and make you the laughing stock of the town... THIS = A DEAD END. I.E NO REAL INFO. here lies the problem. Look at it another way.... If someone was murdered and during the court case 11 million witnesses came foward to testify that they had seen the killer do it, he would be put to death on the spot.... i.e. proof enough he was guilty. So why doesn't it work for this subject ? If it's good enough for the crown prosecution, then it should be good enough for us. The reason i chose the number 11 million, is because that is the number of alien abductions reported in the USA alone, let alone probably double that number who havn't come foward for fear of ridicule. What i am trying to get accross here is you aint gunna see any so called real evidence, until the powers that be decide otherwise. The reason alot of the so called reverse engineered stuff ain't on the market is quite simple.. WE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS..YET. We don't even undertand the complex materials used, some of which do not even exist on this planet, so how do we make it ? Some reversed tech is being used today.Where do you think the silicon chip comes from in yer pc, fibre optic cables, kelvar... al from reverse engineering. As i have stated several times before, you need to do some real heavy homework and investigation yourselves if you want to know the truth, far too much to publish here. Plus you will have to sift through loads of rubbish to find it. It's no easy task i can assure you. When you have studied this subject for as long as i and many others have, you get to know it inside out so to speak, and get a real good overview of what is real and what is not. It is comparible to a giant jigsaw, and you need to find all the pieces and then put them in place. It will take you on a journey through lots of avenues like, the egyptions, the myans, nasa, ancient aliens, abductions, science, quantum physics, astronomy, conspiracy, animal mutilations, crop circles, this list is endless GOOD LUCK.Comment
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I never stated it was the truth, merely quoted. Apologies for my grammar.
There lies the problem, what if all these things are explainable? Not one single bit of verifiable evidence. Count the witnesses, yet not one managed to conceal 1 bit of evidence other than their own accounts and some minor documents.Originally posted by diff
Bradley Manning allegedly concealed and smuggled millions of documents from the US Govt on his own.Last edited by SouthernComfort; 19 April, 2011, 01:59."What we've got here is failure to communicate."Comment
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Can't see why Governments wouldn't just say " Yes we've found something but f off you're not getting to see it until we've fully investigated it" It's not as if the Government don't let us know about other stuff going on but won't tell us too much about them either.Comment
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yes its real....
yes its real and it was in USA and not in any other place extaclty in the desert of mexico and bla bla bla fcuk
the world is so big and they always choose the USA to land why not in UK, RUSSIA, FRANCE CHINA? OR MOZAMBIQUE my country ha ha ha meybe we are the allien and we dont know that
sorry for my english
HELLOComment
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Understood. Nothing wrong with your grammar btw.
There lies the problem indeed. If you're a "believer" you're willing to ignore awkward details that don't fit your theory.
Probably the most awkward point of them all, but not popular with conspiracy theorists.He who laughs last probably didn't get the joke.
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There lies the problem indeed. If you're a "believer" you're willing to ignore awkward details that don't fit your theory.
It's not that awkward details are ignored, they are not. As i have said there is so much rubbish to go through. Every investigation is different, and every case will more than likely have some truth and some non truth in it. Things get quite difficult at times. Sometimes dates don't match up, or so many other things..... i will look at a case and say well that bit doesn't seem right, or that bit, but that bit does and so on. Again it's an overview. Most cases are studied and ripped to bits by hundreds of people, and it often ends up being one big chinese whisper, but SOME facts just can't be ignored, or dissmissed. This subject is so open to conspiracy and stupid idiots who make video's and take pictures, and tell so many lies, it does make it so very hard to get to the bottom of it. The government loves it, because it helps with the cover up. In fact they encourage it and add to it. They have on many occasions leaked false documents out to throw everyone off the scent...it's more corrupt than the mafia. The DISLOSURE PROJECT has been going for a long time now, and if you actually LISTEN to what dr steven greer says, he is in constant contact with all the big heads of state, and all the defence, and intelligence staff... NOW THAT IN ITSELF IS PROOF, because if it wasn't he woulld not be meeting with them in the first place. He advises alot of them on what is the best way to DISCLOSE without causing mass panick. Every country in the world, is in the process of FULL DISCLOSURE with the exception of the USA. ALot of heads of state didn't even know what was going on, and OBAMA wants to DISCLOSE, the american government are not so worried about DISCLOSING, what they are worried about, is the fact that they have lied to the people and the whole world for over 50 years. FULL DISCLOSURE will come, and probably within most of our lifetimes, it must happen. Can you imagine the aftermath of full disclosure by the USA, the public will never believe them again. It is a very delicate proccess, and they will try as best they can to cover up all the lies. AS THE REST OF THE WORLD IS IN THE PROCESS OF FULL DISCLOSURE, the americans have no choice.Last edited by diff; 19 April, 2011, 09:51.Comment
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a lot of boxes
i consider myself open to most subjects which is why contrary to what some believe i am interested on certain subjects
yes the world was once thought flat but it was never going to stay that way once we had more than a quest for just fishing near the shore, telescopes showed also showed our world in a different light
what you are talking about is akin to being invisible time travel is not possible even with a DeLorean and for my mind is not in the same category as finding that the earth was round
one of the other posters makes a good point you mention that these species may be thousands or millions of years ahead of us
yet they always crash in america or get spotted in america if they are so advanced how did we catch them?
how do we see them when they fly faster than the speed of light?
yet when they come to earth they just hover about a bit slowly
as i said earlier why do they come here ?
is it for crop circles then home bath time and bed?
i believe out there in the galaxies there must be other life, i also believe that everything goes around in a cycle as humans our cycle will end and another will take over whether on this planet or another we are on borrowed time
if i am wrong you can come back from the future and kick my butt but i am pretty confident that we wont even exist as a species before time travel has been invented our sun will have popped its lights outComment
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Red, when they enter our atmosphere they don't fly at the speed of light, they slow down. The anti gravity field that is generated in front of the craft makes it very difficult to stay stable.... our gravity conflicts with it. Our gravity is very hit and miss, stronger in one area, than in another. hence the wobbly flight. As for the crashes, most are just that A CRASH because of the above. There is however information to say that TESLA made an invisable beam weapon, that is apparently very easy to make. Now if you do your homework, you will find this has been made and tested on everything from cars to aircraft, and completely disables them. The americans have shot down a few. Just because they might be millions of yers more advanced, doesn't mean they are invincable. There are many theories as to why they visit us. One which makes perfect sense to me is this,
If you look at the time period, when we first started to detect these objects [ i.e 1947 ] was around the time of the fist nuclear tests. The theory goes that because our planet is so very impotant and rare, and is part of a bigger picture in the galactic world, they came to see what we were up to, to make sure we don't destory our planet. There is also much evidence availiable stateing they have actually scanned our nuclear facilities, and disabled our nuclear warheads on more than one occasion, to let us know they can, and that they will not allow us to destroy ourseleves, our planet is too important. This is one of many theories. Because we have shot down a few, they tend not to show themselves too much, they know we are mere cavemen compared to them, and are waiting for us to evolve a bit more before we can join them in the universal community. There is no room for war out there, it is barbaric and prehistoric. There is also evidence to suggest, that we are a bit like a garden, and they have created this planet to an extent, and helped it to grow, another reason to back up the theory that they won't let us destroy it. Science knows we have one small piece of our DNA that is not supposed to be there, and again there is some evidence to suggest we have benn genetically modified, hense ALIEN ABDUCTION. All this sounds very weird, but is a very weird universe we live in. the only reason it is weird to us, is because WE DON'T UNDERSTAND IT YET. There is some factual evidece to suggest that there are many different species out there, and not just the GREYS that everyone thinks of. Apparently 60 plus species cataloged..... Now IF this is all true it does seem quite likely and probable, that if life does exist beyond our earth, this is the kind of reception we would recieve. We are not alone, and we need to look at the bigger picture, and start to think outside the box BIGTIME. They are not here to destoy us, if they wanted to they could in an instant i expect. It is a peacfull universe out there and in order for us to join them we need to PUT TO BED OUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS WAR AND MOVE ON.Comment
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